jackson49 wrote:

There is such a thing as permanent bans,

Contact Us

jackson49 wrote:

and appeals often don't work.

[citation needed]
Be respectful and the appeal will usually be accepted.

jackson49 wrote:

I think you're underestimating how much it takes to crush someone's interest,

I think you’re overestimating how much it takes to get perma banned. And how many people don’t get unbanned. And with the ability for users to download the offline editor if they wish to continue. You’ll usually know if you’re set to be banned due to a lot of alerts do similar things, and being temporarily banned numerous times, and perma banned than appealed numerous times for one thing.

jackson49 wrote:

especially if they're just starting out. Losing all your work is a painful feeling.

Which, again, might just give reason to listen to messages from the ST.

jackson49 wrote:

Okay, I guess I was wrong then. I still stand by what I said about it being an unnecessarily cruel punishment though.

As you can see, after being banned due to not listening to multiple alerts, not reading the community guidelines, ignoring multiple bans, I’ve been perma banned and cannot appeal. What did i do to deserve this?!

jackson49 wrote:

It's not always that easy. Most users who get banned (who aren't New Scratchers) didn't purposefully try to break the Community Guidelines.

But probably didn’t see the very obvious alerts and probably temp bans, which i think most people would see.
And, as alerts are just about always used multiple times before as much as a temp ban.

jackson49 wrote:

but it's (understandably) pretty easy to get banned on this site.

Obviously! Ignoring the CG, TOU, multiple alerts, temp bans most of the time, etc, is easy to do.

jackson49 wrote:

It seems like a pretty severe punishment for something that happens so often.

Prison is a terrible place! I mean, its so severe to go to jail after robbing a bank, look at how common it is.

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

Someone isn’t always aware that what they did was wrong.

*cough*alert*cough*

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

and if your permanently banned without a previous warning for what you did,

Which is fairly uncommon. Unless you ignore a lot of bans.

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

or know what you did was against the guidelines,

It suggests you read the cg, and you agree to it:
-when you sign up for scratch
-when you verify your email
-when you become a Scratcher
And it isn’t hidden on the pages, either. It makes it really obvious that you might wanna read them.

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

then projects you may have worked months or a year on are gone forever.

Contact Us, downloading them if they’re so important, reading the CG after Scratch pushes you to a lot, sharing project demos, listening to alerts, the appeals form, waiting for temp bans to be over, reading alerts, so on.

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

supergamer10000 wrote:

jackson49 wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Because I’ve been banned off my Scratch account and lost hard work, I’m never gonna program again and will not touch my computer again.
Besides, if your interest is squashed due to being punished for breaking major rules/constantly breaking rules on a site made for kids, and you won’t appeal, which I believe they are accepted a lot, and if 2 weeks is a lot to wait, than you’re probably being taught a good life lesson in patience.

There is such a thing as permanent bans, and appeals often don't work. I think you're underestimating how much it takes to crush someone's interest, especially if they're just starting out. Losing all your work is a painful feeling.

Then the user should be more careful about getting banned. Not allowing someone to access their projects will likely deter them from breaking the guidelines. Also, getting banned isn't the most easiest thing and it doesn't happen by accident. There are warns before the ban, and when the user is doing it intentionally to harm scratch seriously it could be an instant ban. So the person who got banned was likely fully aware of what they were doing and made the poor choice of going ahead and proceeding to repeat the same thing they did before. A ban is serious, letting someone access their projects makes it a lot less serious and more of a partial ban.

Someone isn’t always aware that what they did was wrong.and if your permanently banned without a previous warning for what you did, or know what you did was against the guidelines, then projects you may have worked months or a year on are gone forever.

Right. I got a 3 day ban when someone leaked an account's password in my YouTube live stream chat. Everyone in the YouTube chat was banned for that, including me, with no previous warnings about it. It also went around Scratch's TOS about not being banned for something you did outside Scratch, and what's weirder is how I'm the one being banned for someone I don't control being weird and guessing someone's password

moss-shadow wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

supergamer10000 wrote:

jackson49 wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Because I’ve been banned off my Scratch account and lost hard work, I’m never gonna program again and will not touch my computer again.
Besides, if your interest is squashed due to being punished for breaking major rules/constantly breaking rules on a site made for kids, and you won’t appeal, which I believe they are accepted a lot, and if 2 weeks is a lot to wait, than you’re probably being taught a good life lesson in patience.

There is such a thing as permanent bans, and appeals often don't work. I think you're underestimating how much it takes to crush someone's interest, especially if they're just starting out. Losing all your work is a painful feeling.

Then the user should be more careful about getting banned. Not allowing someone to access their projects will likely deter them from breaking the guidelines. Also, getting banned isn't the most easiest thing and it doesn't happen by accident. There are warns before the ban, and when the user is doing it intentionally to harm scratch seriously it could be an instant ban. So the person who got banned was likely fully aware of what they were doing and made the poor choice of going ahead and proceeding to repeat the same thing they did before. A ban is serious, letting someone access their projects makes it a lot less serious and more of a partial ban.

Someone isn’t always aware that what they did was wrong.and if your permanently banned without a previous warning for what you did, or know what you did was against the guidelines, then projects you may have worked months or a year on are gone forever.

Right. I got a 3 day ban when someone leaked an account's password in my YouTube live stream chat. Everyone in the YouTube chat was banned for that, including me, with no previous warnings about it. It also went around Scratch's TOS about not being banned for something you did outside Scratch, and what's weirder is how I'm the one being banned for someone I don't control being weird and guessing someone's password

So it's in your youtube stream. Everyone in the chat was banned? How do you know that? Are you sure you aren't exaggerating as people tend to do that, etc use warn as ban, mute as ban, etc. So the scratch team was watching your youtube live stream as it unfolded? I don't think scratch team would have been able to know if the password was exposed on your stream unless a scratch team member was reading your chat.

edit: I looked at your profile, woww. Looks like you are telling the truth here, I would suggest using contact us.

supergamer10000 wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

supergamer10000 wrote:

jackson49 wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Because I’ve been banned off my Scratch account and lost hard work, I’m never gonna program again and will not touch my computer again.
Besides, if your interest is squashed due to being punished for breaking major rules/constantly breaking rules on a site made for kids, and you won’t appeal, which I believe they are accepted a lot, and if 2 weeks is a lot to wait, than you’re probably being taught a good life lesson in patience.

There is such a thing as permanent bans, and appeals often don't work. I think you're underestimating how much it takes to crush someone's interest, especially if they're just starting out. Losing all your work is a painful feeling.

Then the user should be more careful about getting banned. Not allowing someone to access their projects will likely deter them from breaking the guidelines. Also, getting banned isn't the most easiest thing and it doesn't happen by accident. There are warns before the ban, and when the user is doing it intentionally to harm scratch seriously it could be an instant ban. So the person who got banned was likely fully aware of what they were doing and made the poor choice of going ahead and proceeding to repeat the same thing they did before. A ban is serious, letting someone access their projects makes it a lot less serious and more of a partial ban.

Someone isn’t always aware that what they did was wrong.and if your permanently banned without a previous warning for what you did, or know what you did was against the guidelines, then projects you may have worked months or a year on are gone forever.

Right. I got a 3 day ban when someone leaked an account's password in my YouTube live stream chat. Everyone in the YouTube chat was banned for that, including me, with no previous warnings about it. It also went around Scratch's TOS about not being banned for something you did outside Scratch, and what's weirder is how I'm the one being banned for someone I don't control being weird and guessing someone's password

So it's in your youtube stream. Everyone in the chat was banned? How do you know that? Are you sure you aren't exaggerating as people tend to do that, etc use warn as ban, mute as ban, etc. So the scratch team was watching your youtube live stream as it unfolded? I don't think scratch team would have been able to know if the password was exposed on your stream unless a scratch team member was reading your chat.

edit: I looked at your profile, woww. Looks like you are telling the truth here, I would suggest using contact us.

Yes, a lot of those on the stream commented on the video, and the reason for the ban stated “Logging into someone else's account”

Since it looks like this topic's question was answered, I'm closing it to prevent drama on the thread.