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k0d3rrr
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Ban the word "baka"

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?
Yes, because it's a common word in a different language
Except if someone uses it like “Freak no!” or “Oh my freaking freak why?”
(Softened for Scratch's audience)
2Herios2Furious
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Ban the word "baka"

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?
Yes, because it's a common word in a different language
make a different thread requesting it to be unbanned lol
SoupBoot
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Ban the word "baka"

blablablahello wrote:

SoupBoot wrote:

8bitrkt wrote:

this is totally a dupe, github is banned on my school laptop though, so I cant use ocular :(

The title, baka means very offensive things in japanese, It a swear word there. And even if children don't get it and they think sussy baka is a small joke, it should still be banned for meaning offensive things.

edit: just because someone in english doesn't know its a swear, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be banned. ITS STILL A SWEAR AT THE END OF THE DAY
edit 2: I understand that it has a lot of translations in other languages. but japanese is not only the 2nd largest language in scratch (at least last time I checked), but is also where the word is from.

If you are seeing the word in a comment you should let them know before you go around reporting people for it. The meme is still commonly used and the comment might have been harmless.

-Happy Scratching!
the comment is meant to be harmless, but isn't, so it still should be reported as it is very offensive (since otherwise the comment stays there). HOWEVER, you should most likely tell them what is wrong with the comment, as otherwise they would make the same mistake again

If it is intended to be harmless, it should be treated as such. Just because “chair” could be inappropriate in another language doesn't mean we can't use it. It's an entirely different thing in English.
2Herios2Furious
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Ban the word "baka"

SoupBoot wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

SoupBoot wrote:

8bitrkt wrote:

this is totally a dupe, github is banned on my school laptop though, so I cant use ocular :(

The title, baka means very offensive things in japanese, It a swear word there. And even if children don't get it and they think sussy baka is a small joke, it should still be banned for meaning offensive things.

edit: just because someone in english doesn't know its a swear, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be banned. ITS STILL A SWEAR AT THE END OF THE DAY
edit 2: I understand that it has a lot of translations in other languages. but japanese is not only the 2nd largest language in scratch (at least last time I checked), but is also where the word is from.

If you are seeing the word in a comment you should let them know before you go around reporting people for it. The meme is still commonly used and the comment might have been harmless.

-Happy Scratching!
the comment is meant to be harmless, but isn't, so it still should be reported as it is very offensive (since otherwise the comment stays there). HOWEVER, you should most likely tell them what is wrong with the comment, as otherwise they would make the same mistake again

If it is intended to be harmless, it should be treated as such. Just because “chair” could be inappropriate in another language doesn't mean we can't use it. It's an entirely different thing in English.
you are aware that any comment on scratch is public to the entire internet and people who speak languages other than english can view your posts?
also your intent shouldnt mean anything, it matters more how it effects ppl

(also the word “baka” when used in english isnt “an entirely different thing” its the exact same word as in japanese. dont spread false info.)
Prince_Wolf1
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?
Yes, because it's a common word in a different language
make a different thread requesting it to be unbanned lol
Don’5 even know what it is in a diff language but not making a topic if I don’t even know for sure
And not typing that into google translate because history
SoupBoot
Scratcher
21 posts

Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

SoupBoot wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

SoupBoot wrote:

8bitrkt wrote:

this is totally a dupe, github is banned on my school laptop though, so I cant use ocular :(

The title, baka means very offensive things in japanese, It a swear word there. And even if children don't get it and they think sussy baka is a small joke, it should still be banned for meaning offensive things.

edit: just because someone in english doesn't know its a swear, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be banned. ITS STILL A SWEAR AT THE END OF THE DAY
edit 2: I understand that it has a lot of translations in other languages. but japanese is not only the 2nd largest language in scratch (at least last time I checked), but is also where the word is from.

If you are seeing the word in a comment you should let them know before you go around reporting people for it. The meme is still commonly used and the comment might have been harmless.

-Happy Scratching!
the comment is meant to be harmless, but isn't, so it still should be reported as it is very offensive (since otherwise the comment stays there). HOWEVER, you should most likely tell them what is wrong with the comment, as otherwise they would make the same mistake again

If it is intended to be harmless, it should be treated as such. Just because “chair” could be inappropriate in another language doesn't mean we can't use it. It's an entirely different thing in English.
you are aware that any comment on scratch is public to the entire internet and people who speak languages other than english can view your posts?
also your intent shouldnt mean anything, it matters more how it effects ppl

(also the word “baka” when used in english isnt “an entirely different thing” its the exact same word as in japanese. dont spread false info.)

I believe it is different enough. The word derived from memes, particularly “sussy baka”. When used in this context, it means someone who is acting silly or humorous, meaning no harm was dealt. When it comes to Scratch, it is based in America. While the word might be used in a bad way, it's the context that matters. If I were to include it in a list of negative connotations then yes, the word is bad. But anyone should be able to understand when a word is used in a phrase or the “silly” way. To conclude, people should report negative “baka” comments, but not silly “baka” comments.
SoupBoot
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Ban the word "baka"

MikeFalls wrote:

im losing brain cells because of the most weirdest and wackiest ways these people trying to find every possible reason to ban the word baka.
like bro just ban the word in japanese symbols i don't get why you have to find every reason this wouldn't work.
Exactly ☠
CoconutGator
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Ban the word "baka"

Everything in consideration, there are too many use cases where the word could be used innocently leading to censorship problems. Just report comments using “baka” in an inappropriate way and leave it at that.
An0therRand0mC0der
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

An0therRand0mC0der wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?
Yes, because it's a common word in a different language
make a different thread requesting it to be unbanned lol
It isn't though, it was using your analogy
ajskateboarder
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Ban the word "baka"

As many have said, “baka” has meanings in other languages (coming from English). I'll just list a few examples:
  • Filipino: baka -> cow
  • Hawaiian: baka -> smoke
  • Hungarian: baka -> buck
  • Danish: baka -> bake
These are all according to Google Translate, so they are probably not 100% accurate or it has fallen out of modern-day usage, but these do exist…
PkmnQ
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

PkmnQ wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

also baka is not a common word in any language but japanese afaik, yes, it means things in other languages, but i dont see any language where its a common enough word to warrant consideration
I hear it very commonly here. Google Translate will tell you it means “cow”, but it has a second more common meaning. I can't think of the direct translation, but trust me, it's very common. I suggest only banning it in japanese characters.
Why only in Japanese characters?
I have told you. The common meaning, I'd say about as common as the word “because”.
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

(#99)

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?

ok if you think your point is so good, see if it means anything in a different language.
i'll wait for you.
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if the f word was a common word in the language, we could unban it, for that language.

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Dec. 15, 2022 14:35:35)

48kxzh0tzz_____
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Ban the word "baka"

k0d3rrr wrote:

(#101)

Yes, because it's a common word in a different language
Except if someone uses it like “Freak no!” or “Oh my freaking freak why?”
(Softened for Scratch's audience)

also in french, i'm pretty sue there is a word that sounds similar to the f word that means seal.

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Dec. 15, 2022 14:33:10)

2Herios2Furious
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Ban the word "baka"

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

(#99)

if the f word was a word in a diff language, should we unban it?

ok if you think your point is so good, see if it means anything in a different language.
whether or not it is or isnt doesnt make my argument any more or less valid
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

whether or not it is or isnt doesnt make my argument any more or less valid

It does though. Baka has been proved to be used commonly in some languages. How is the f word being used commonly and is it even being used commonly in a language? If you can find one, maybe it will be whitelisted but not for “Oh my (fricking) gosh!”

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Dec. 15, 2022 14:42:08)

2Herios2Furious
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Ban the word "baka"

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

whether or not it is or isnt doesnt make my argument any more or less valid

It does though. Baka has been proved to be used commonly in some languages. How is the f word being used commonly and is it even being used commonly in a language? If you can find one, maybe it will be whitelisted but not for "Oh my gosh!"
it doesnt bc it was an example to try and put your logic onto something else.
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

(#116)

it doesnt bc it was an example to try and put your logic onto something else.

you literally make no sense, clarify a bit better.
2Herios2Furious
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Ban the word "baka"

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

(#116)

it doesnt bc it was an example to try and put your logic onto something else.

you literally make no sense, clarify a bit better.
how. skull emoji
SoupBoot
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Ban the word "baka"

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

2Herios2Furious wrote:

(#116)

it doesnt bc it was an example to try and put your logic onto something else.

you literally make no sense, clarify a bit better.
The F-word was just a theoretical what-if that put English people into the shoes of Japnese people. The F-word isn't actually a normal word in other languages.
MikeFalls
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500+ posts

Ban the word "baka"

2Herios2Furious wrote:

MikeFalls wrote:

im losing brain cells because of the most weirdest and wackiest ways these people trying to find every possible reason to ban the word baka.
like bro just ban the word in japanese symbols i don't get why you have to find every reason this wouldn't work.
its literally a swear. that's it.
why only ban it in japanese characters?
if it means something bad in japanese characters then ban it not the whole diddly darn word onto another language

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