Can you suggest a browser for me? (read OP)

SAVVYSCLUTTER

I'm looking for a Web browser that:

runs on Linux and Windows 7
is fully open-source
isn't Chromium-based
doesn't support DRM
has no telemetry except error reporting
includes or allows me to install an ad blocker
can clear cookies on exit

Firefox, which I currently use, meets my requirements except #4 and #5. I'm considering LibreWolf but want more recommendations.

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (May 13, 2023 13:31:37)

scratchcode1_2_3

I really recommend Firefox. It is one of the best browsers I've used.

SAVVYSCLUTTER

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:
I really recommend Firefox. It is one of the best browsers I've used.

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
Firefox meets my requirements except for #4 and #5.

MagicCrayon9342

Why no DRM? Also, no point in trying to find a browser without telemetry, everything you own that's electronic spies on you.

SAVVYSCLUTTER

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Why no DRM?

I think it's unfair and won't allow it in my open-source system.

MagicCrayon9342

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Why no DRM?
I think it's unfair and won't allow it in my open-source system.

Your removing functionality from your system at this point.

lolecksdeehaha

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Why no DRM?
I think it's unfair and won't allow it in my open-source system.

It's literally just to remove illegal copyrighted content, isn't it?

Also, you can disable telemetry in Firefox, can't you?

MagicCrayon9342

lolecksdeehaha wrote:
SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Why no DRM?
I think it's unfair and won't allow it in my open-source system.
It's literally just to remove illegal copyrighted content, isn't it?

Also, you can disable telemetry in Firefox, can't you?

They put time and effort into their content.

SAVVYSCLUTTER

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Your removing functionality from your system at this point.

lolecksdeehaha wrote:
It's literally just to remove illegal copyrighted content, isn't it?

https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm

lolecksdeehaha

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Your removing functionality from your system at this point.

lolecksdeehaha wrote:
It's literally just to remove illegal copyrighted content, isn't it?

https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm

oh I was wrong, tbh i just looked on google and assumed (i should not do that)

ajskateboarder

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
(#4)
Why no DRM?

Average Spotify user lol

As for the OP, Firefox is perfectly fine and fits your requirements already. Firefox does support DRM, but you have the option to disable it whenever you feel like it. Since Firefox is free as in beer and speech (open sourced software), it should not contain any telemetry. If you mean website telemetry, just go find an tracking blocker (which I don't think I can mention here)

Last edited by ajskateboarder (Dec. 14, 2022 23:33:03)

skymover1239

LibreWolf fixes problem number 5.

ScratchCatHELLO

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
Your removing functionality from your system at this point.

lolecksdeehaha wrote:
It's literally just to remove illegal copyrighted content, isn't it?

https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm

oh, it’s one of these extreme anti-proprietary content sites that think anything that’s closed-source or includes analytics is evil.

what a drm module does is let you view drm content. firefox lets you disable the module if you really care that much.

go to settings, then extensions & themes, then plugins, then disable Widevine CDM. congratulations, you can’t view copyright-protected content anymore.

as for telemetry, go to settings, then privacy & security, scroll down to “Firefox Data Collection and Use” and uncheck everything. none of the telemetric data is particularly sensitive or evil or whatever, but some people are just really worried about this stuff, I guess.

Last edited by ScratchCatHELLO (Dec. 15, 2022 02:16:25)

SAVVYSCLUTTER

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
go to settings, then extensions & themes, then plugins, then disable Widevine CDM. congratulations, you can’t view copyright-protected content anymore.

I've done this already and avoid services like Spotify and Netflix.

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
none of the telemetric data is particularly sensitive or evil or whatever, but some people are just really worried about this stuff, I guess.

I don't mind error reporting but won't allow ad targeting or analytics.

SAVVYSCLUTTER

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
what a drm module does is let you view drm content. firefox lets you disable the module if you really care that much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (Dec. 15, 2022 21:03:24)

DifferentDance8

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
oh, it’s one of these extreme anti-proprietary content sites that think anything that’s closed-source or includes analytics is evil.

At times, it seems that way because it can and has happened with DRM in the past.

ScratchCatHELLO

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
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go to settings, then extensions & themes, then plugins, then disable Widevine CDM. congratulations, you can’t view copyright-protected content anymore.
I've done this already and avoid services like Spotify and Netflix.

so what’s the problem here?

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
none of the telemetric data is particularly sensitive or evil or whatever, but some people are just really worried about this stuff, I guess.
I don't mind error reporting but won't allow ad targeting or analytics.

distrusting ad targeting is reasonable, but analytics is usually anonymous data that helps developers understand who uses their software and what they’re using it for, which is helpful.

regardless, firefox doesn’t do ad targeting and the rest of telemetry can be disabled.

SAVVYSCLUTTER wrote:
ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
what a drm module does is let you view drm content. firefox lets you disable the module if you really care that much.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

that’s a scummy thing sony did that was incredibly poorly done. it doesn’t refute what I said and it has no bearing on firefox’ implementation.

DifferentDance8 wrote:
ScratchCatHELLO wrote:
oh, it’s one of these extreme anti-proprietary content sites that think anything that’s closed-source or includes analytics is evil.
At times, it seems that way because it can and has happened with DRM in the past.

again, this is a terrible thing sony did two decades ago.

it’s about trust. if you don’t trust that something is safe to use, don’t use it. I think firefox seems trustworthy.

Last edited by ScratchCatHELLO (Dec. 15, 2022 12:59:04)

SavetheAtlantic

I think it'd just be easier to become Amish.

SAVVYSCLUTTER

SavetheAtlantic wrote:
I think it'd just be easier to become Amish.

There's a difference between not wanting rootkits in your PC and avoiding all technology.

Last edited by SAVVYSCLUTTER (Dec. 15, 2022 21:43:46)

skymover1239

LibreWolf looks like what you are looking for.

librewolf.net wrote:
This project is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom.

LibreWolf is designed to increase protection against tracking and fingerprinting techniques, while also including a few security improvements. This is achieved through our privacy and security oriented settings and patches. LibreWolf also aims to remove all the telemetry, data collection and annoyances, as well as disabling anti-freedom features like DRM.

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