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zynsane
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

(#20)

alright then how about we remove the chat filter since people can figure out a way to work around the filter to share private info. It won't really make a difference.

huh? how do people do that-


unless chat filter, many people have multiple emails and just use those for account creation.

(yea this is zynny aka 48kxzhotz or whatever his name is) ALSO KING OF THE PAGE LETZ GO!!

Last edited by zynsane (Nov. 14, 2022 16:04:09)

blablablahello
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

support: this wouldn't take much effort (just 1 extra search), and would prevent atleast SOME ban evasion

and just dont add the email and stuff to the list if its a username ban
YtArie5
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D-ScratchNinja wrote:

This might be more effective if account creations on the same IP address were also blocked.
Don't they already give out IP bans?
blablablahello
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

actually I just realized


im pretty sure theres already something about email bans (where all accounts of the same email is banned or something)
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

(#20)

alright then how about we remove the chat filter since people can figure out a way to work around the filter to share private info. It won't really make a difference.

the chat filter is different. i said that it only affects the person who commented. the chat filter DOES make a difference that actually helps somewhat. this won't because so many siblings have the same email and with this filter, if one person is banned, the whole family goes down.
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Sliverus wrote:

(#11)
My brother and I are under the same email. If one of us gets banned, that won’t be good. My brother has forgotten his password two or three times, and has to keep making new accounts. If he forgets again, then he won’t be able to use Scratch. That would be highly unfair.

this sadly already happens.
ToastRoastBoast
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

what about to prevent people using all emails on a network where ur account is banned
YtArie5
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

ToastRoastBoast wrote:

what about to prevent people using all emails on a network where ur account is banned
I think that's a tad too much
Sliverus
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

Sliverus wrote:

(#11)
My brother and I are under the same email. If one of us gets banned, that won’t be good. My brother has forgotten his password two or three times, and has to keep making new accounts. If he forgets again, then he won’t be able to use Scratch. That would be highly unfair.

this sadly already happens.
Yeah, but only if you get IP banned. If you’re a more responsible Scratcher, then it should be fine. I remember one time when I got banned for a week due to a misunderstanding, with no way to appeal. (I unfortunately can’t access Contact Us.) I did not attempt to access another account during this ban period, albeit I did check my banned account often to see if I’d be unblocked due to the fact that it was a misunderstanding. You see, I was trying to be responsible, and I don’t think my brother should have to suffer for a solid week just because he’s related to the person who has the slim possibility to ban evade. Many other users would in similar situations.

As far as I can tell, that does indeed happen — but this suggestion would only escalate the problem. Your red herring just doesn’t work here. The Scratch Team bans people, not accounts. You’re suggesting that they use overly strict methods that would harm many innocent users; that’s just not an option. I would prefer that they would just keep an eye on the activity of IP addresses with banned users, but that conversation can warrant another topic, and I’m not here to make another suggestion. I just want to tell you that this simply cannot work. Make sense?
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Sliverus wrote:

(#29)


Yeah, but only if you get IP banned. If you’re a more responsible Scratcher, then it should be fine. I remember one time when I got banned for a week due to a misunderstanding, with no way to appeal. (I unfortunately can’t access Contact Us.) I did not attempt to access another account during this ban period, albeit I did check my banned account often to see if I’d be unblocked due to the fact that it was a misunderstanding. You see, I was trying to be responsible, and I don’t think my brother should have to suffer for a solid week just because he’s related to the person who has the slim possibility to ban evade. Many other users would in similar situations.

As far as I can tell, that does indeed happen — but this suggestion would only escalate the problem. Your red herring just doesn’t work here. The Scratch Team bans people, not accounts. You’re suggesting that they use overly strict methods that would harm many innocent users; that’s just not an option. I would prefer that they would just keep an eye on the activity of IP addresses with banned users, but that conversation can warrant another topic, and I’m not here to make another suggestion. I just want to tell you that this simply cannot work. Make sense?

is this at me or at the OP
PPPDUD
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-Valtren- wrote:

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

Also literaly all you're saying is “kIds aRe idIOtS”.
we are. some of us are slightly less idiotic than others.
I agree. But only the ones who use computers day and night seem to actually know anything, and a division of that group is addicted to social media, unfortunately.
Sliverus
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48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

is this at me or at the OP
I was referring to you. When I said you were “suggesting” something, I meant the synonym for “implying”, not making a suggestion on Scratch. I can see how I may have caused confusion.
ajskateboarder
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ToastRoastBoast wrote:

what about to prevent people using all emails on a network where ur account is banned

That's probably not even possible and too much security lol
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Sliverus wrote:

(#32)

I was referring to you. When I said you were “suggesting” something, I meant the synonym for “implying”, not making a suggestion on Scratch. I can see how I may have caused confusion.

suggesting something? i wasn't?? i just said it already happens and this suggestion will make it worse.

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Nov. 15, 2022 01:27:16)

GrowDev9
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

I think they already do that with IP bans.
NamelessCat
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

I don't really see a point to this suggestion, it wouldn't hurt the website but it wouldn't necessarily benefit it either. As others have mentioned, there's always the option of making a new email or using a fake one to get around this anyways, so it wouldn't really do much.
Sliverus
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

suggesting something? i wasn't?? i just said it already happens and this suggestion will make it worse.
All right then. I think you initially confused me, and I thought you were trying to argue with my point. Apparently not.

GrowDev9 wrote:

I think they already do that with IP bans.
Yeah, but only if you’re IP banned. They’re suggesting to make it happen for everyone under an IP with a banned user, and that’s not good.
Yellowsheep43
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Sliverus wrote:

Yeah, but only if you’re IP banned. They’re suggesting to make it happen for everyone under an IP with a banned user, and that’s not good.
I said Email, not IP

Last edited by Yellowsheep43 (Nov. 15, 2022 12:53:54)

48kxzh0tzz_____
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NamelessCat wrote:

(#36)
I don't really see a point to this suggestion, it wouldn't hurt the website but it wouldn't necessarily benefit it either. As others have mentioned, there's always the option of making a new email or using a fake one to get around this anyways, so it wouldn't really do much.

Plus with family members sharing the same email address.
Sliverus
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

Sliverus wrote:

Yeah, but only if you’re IP banned. They’re suggesting to make it happen for everyone under an IP with a banned user, and that’s not good.
I said Email, not IP
Re-read the original post. I was quoting and responding to someone else.

Last edited by Sliverus (Nov. 15, 2022 18:15:10)

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