KomputerKoding wrote:

Has anyone ever tried beating PVZ without sun producers? It's insanely hard. I'm on level 2-8 as of now.

It's not super hard, if you mean PVZ 1. All night (and fog) levels can be beaten with Puff-shroom (and Sea-shroom) spam, and for day levels you just need to use lots of stun plants that are cheap.

PVZ 2, on the other hand, definitely not possible to beat without sun producers (considering there is literally a “produce _ sun” objective)

On a slightly unrelated note, I finally created the level code system for my fangame (I haven't tested it a whole lot, though, there's probably some glitches with it I haven't found yet.)

I made a topic that I'll use in the future for player-made levels. Currently it's just my personal testing topic. The code I put in the topic is actually the code for the “water test level” I made a video on a few days ago. Importing and exporting that code has worked fine which is good.

In a bit less than a month from now, I will release a demo of the game which will have several test levels AND the level editor for people to use. I was planning to release the demo much later, but due to Scratch being an unoptimized engine, I want to do it much sooner so that people have a less-laggy version to play (since the full version will most likely be much laggier.) I might also nerf a lot of the plants I currently have added, since in the future, levels will require less zombie spam to account for the extra lag from all the assets.

I just had the weirdest glitch happen in my game. So I had just added lawnmowers and was making a test level. While just messing around, I had placed a Cherry Bomb at a very specific timing, and it exploded on the same frame that a lawnmower had gone off. What happened next was this:

How the game works is that there's a stamping animation system, and something went wrong with it that caused it to glitch out and infinitely paste random costumes at the middle of the screen. Coincidentally, in the screenshot it looks like some weird tall figure, but really it's just a bunch of gravestones and zombie heads stacked on top of each other (with the brightness on 100).

For the past hour I've been doing tests seeing what would trigger it to happen, and I triggered it 4 times in total. 3 of the times were with Cherry Bomb timing, and 1 time happened randomly while I was looking away (but I did hear a lawnmower trigger.) Another thing to note is that 3 of the 4 times the glitch triggered, I had turbo mode on, which at first lead me to believe it was a glitch caused by turbo mode jank- but then the 4th time I triggered the glitch turbo mode was off. Whatever is causing it, though, it has something to do with the lawnmowers.

I also decided to look at the zombies list when it happened and it looked like this:

Of course I'm the one who worked on the game, so only I understand what any of this means, but it seems like a few entries in the list were accidentally replaced with other values (the first entry in the list should ALWAYS be “Lane1” but here it was replaced with “normal”- with “Lane1” absent from the list, the animation system and all collision breaks).

I don't even know how I could fix this, I looked through all the code but couldn't find anything wrong. For now, my only solution is to add a “failsafe” so that if the list breaks, the project automatically restarts (instead of freezing the page). I'm going to continue testing for the glitch for 30 minutes, if I can't get it to trigger again I'm just going to hope it's only because turbo mode was on.

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

KomputerKoding wrote:

Has anyone ever tried beating PVZ without sun producers? It's insanely hard. I'm on level 2-8 as of now.

PVZ 2, on the other hand, definitely not possible to beat without sun producers (considering there is literally a “produce _ sun” objective)

You can, but you can’t beat all levels.

medians wrote:

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

KomputerKoding wrote:

Has anyone ever tried beating PVZ without sun producers? It's insanely hard. I'm on level 2-8 as of now.

PVZ 2, on the other hand, definitely not possible to beat without sun producers (considering there is literally a “produce _ sun” objective)

You can, but you can’t beat all levels.

Now that I'm thinking about it, you're right. There is a glitch that lets you skip to any world in the game, and if the only restriction was to not use sun producers and everything else was allowed, you could just plow through levels with extremely high level plants.

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

medians wrote:

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

KomputerKoding wrote:

Has anyone ever tried beating PVZ without sun producers? It's insanely hard. I'm on level 2-8 as of now.

PVZ 2, on the other hand, definitely not possible to beat without sun producers (considering there is literally a “produce _ sun” objective)

You can, but you can’t beat all levels.

Now that I'm thinking about it, you're right. There is a glitch that lets you skip to any world in the game, and if the only restriction was to not use sun producers and everything else was allowed, you could just plow through levels with extremely high level plants.

It also depends on your definition of beating the game too, which can be beating all levels, or beating the last level of the last world.

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

I just had the weirdest glitch happen in my game. -snip-

Ok, after testing for awhile, I had it happen again, and with TurboMode off. Seems like it doesn't necessarily have to do with a Cherry Bomb exploding the same frame as a lawnmower gets triggered, and more so just happens if a zombie dies to something that isn't the lawnmower that got triggered the same frame one is triggered. It's weird and complicated but atleast now I have a better idea of where to look in the code- being how the death script works.

Ok, I think I fixed it, but just to be safe I'm gonna spend the entirety of tomorrow (or at least a few hours) trying to trigger the glitch to happen again. If I can't get it to trigger, that means it's fixed.

Derpypow27 wrote:

Anyone here still play PvZ Heroes? It's pretty fun to play even if it gets no updates nowadays

Ah yes. Nothing beats a good old fashioned game of Hearthstone 2. Where are super blocks when you need 'em?

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

medians wrote:

MeIzAwezomeDede wrote:

KomputerKoding wrote:

Has anyone ever tried beating PVZ without sun producers? It's insanely hard. I'm on level 2-8 as of now.

PVZ 2, on the other hand, definitely not possible to beat without sun producers (considering there is literally a “produce _ sun” objective)

You can, but you can’t beat all levels.

Now that I'm thinking about it, you're right. There is a glitch that lets you skip to any world in the game, and if the only restriction was to not use sun producers and everything else was allowed, you could just plow through levels with extremely high level plants.

And yeah, if by completing the game you mean completing the last level of MD, someone did it with no sun producing plants, and no upgrading or powerups (in the tutorial it requires you to do so, though they used a cheat to downgrade it back). They basically just skipped the levels that make you get a large amount of sun

Once I bought a costume for Rotobaga, even though it costed gems, because the goggles did nothing.

Welp, time to stir up some controversy! I see no better way to do that than w/ a PVZ tierlist.
Feel free to give some insight or otherwise complain.

I can't rank Lily Pad, Flower Pot, or Coffee Bean, as they have particular world dependent niches, nor can I rank Imitater, as he depends on how he is used.

Here is the Tier List:

Superb - Pumpkin, Gloom Shroom, Winter Melon, Starfruit, Cattail, Spikerock, Squash, Puff-Shroom
Great - Sunflower, Repeater, Torchwood, Doom-Shroom, Gatling Pea, Twin Sunflower, Melon-Pult, Magnet-Shroom
Decent - Cob Cannon, Jalapeño, Cherry Bomb, Ice Shroom, Potato Mine, Kernel-Pult, Tall-Nut, Sun Shroom
Unreliable - Snow Pea, Wall-Nut, Blover, Umbrella Leaf, Scaredy Shroom, Spikeweed, Fume Shroom, Garlic
Outclassed - Plantern, Threepeater, Cabbage-Pult, Sea-Shroom, Grave Buster, Peashooter
N̶̙͓̤̳̳̙̠̑̄͑͒̐̎̃̽̂̌͐̇̕ȍ̷̗̋̇͒̀͗̈́͆̎͝ - Hypno Shroom, Marigold, Split Pea, Chomper, Tangle Kelp, Cactus, Gold Magnet

I came up with yet another needless plant idea: Pine-dexter!

I have no other concept for the plant other than the fact that it's based on a pine tree, as well as the expression “poindexter”, a slang term (with a negative connotation) which refers to a very smart person.

Perhaps it could attack with sharp needles, or needle-like projectiles.

woo time to revive this topic because I'm shifting into a big ol' pvz phase once again

just got PVZ goty on steam yesterday
i am now at 3-6, i bought a rake and a zombie tripped over and DID THE RARE ANIMATION not the walnut one
how lucky am i

I'm n Wild West of PvZ2. The plants I typically use right now are: Twin Sunflower, Melonpult, Snapdragon, Bonk Choy, Potato Mine, and Iceberg Lettuce. The last few slots are for specific zombie counters.

I'm also trying to get Torchwood so I can cheese Frostbite Caves.

@DaEpikDude
I personally believe that Peashooter is the best plant.
If you want to prove me wrong, try beating the first level in the game without them!

@C0D3N00B
I've beaten the entire game!
I also got Mega Gatling Pea via swapping the first level out for a custom level. It was hard and worth it.

MASSIVE HOT TAKE:
Cob Cannon Is Pretty Mid Ngl.

PlaceError wrote:

MASSIVE HOT TAKE:
Cob Cannon Is Pretty Mid Ngl.

Objectively an S-tier plant, there's endless strategies without Cob Cannon but it makes the mode humanly possible