HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

zaffyrone wrote:

i do think tone tags are helpful as i struggle with online tone

bit of a rant but

I’m tired of seeing people think they “need” tone indicators. Nobody does. Not even if you’re ND, like me. You can simply explain the tone

isnt that one tone indicators do lmao??????

No. Tell me, what does “/skr” mean? You can’t.

Quote this post if you give up.

sounds like a very specific tone tag that could possibly be understood by those who like whatever shovel knight is.
but like i think you would use /ref for that anyway.
anyway that wasnt really related to my point

ScolderCreations wrote:

But it could also be “Sonic & Knuckles reference”. See, it’s better to use full words, instead of those dumb abbreviations. If you’re dealing with a general audience you can’t expect them to understand random abbreviations.

ChloeKohli wrote:

kattcrazy wrote:

So, first of all, tone tags/tone indicators are really helpful for some people (like me).

If you don't know what a tone tag is, go to my project

My idea is that there is a little section for tone tags at the end of each comment. I cant use cubeupload so ill try…

https://uploads.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/project/729239017_100x80.png

=======::::::::::::::
Text. :: /neu ::
=======::::::::::::::

Like, so you go type type type, then, you can click on that :::: section in the mockup comment, and input a tone tag or three after the default /

Make sense?? I got the idea from the in-game Beyond-All-Reason chat btw

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Original comment- just felt like it needed to be rementioned ( O   O )
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zaffyrone wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

zaffyrone wrote:

i do think tone tags are helpful as i struggle with online tone

bit of a rant but

I’m tired of seeing people think they “need” tone indicators. Nobody does. Not even if you’re ND, like me. You can simply explain the tone (or even figure it out) through the actual comment, which makes this suggestion pretty useless. Why use a bunch of Minecraft commands at the end of your comment that nobody knows how to use, and instead actually use a universal method: human speech?

Benefits of tone indicators:

• Small
  
• Prevents a majority of people from understanding the tone (big bad)
  

Benefits of explaining the tone:

• Works with Google Translate and similar services
  
• Can fit with what you’re saying well rather than feeling awkward
  
• Allows anyone with basic reading abilities to understand
  

Therefore, I do not think this is necessary.

….i'm autistic and i quite genuinely do need them pretty often. i misinterpret things extremely easily and me constantly asking for clarification just annoys other people. autism and neurodivergency is a spectrum, different people have different needs. if it wasn't for tone indicators i would constantly be misunderstanding basically everything my online friends say to me in conversation. no, trying to “figure it out” doesn't help, because then i always come to the completely wrong conclusion. i know this because it has happened many times.

in real life i can usually guess tones somewhat well because that's human speech! real life vocal human speech! online text is not the same!!!!!!
i cannot magically rewire my brain to just ✨ magically understand ✨ online tone because it never works.

Chunk_ErRoR_ wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

Tone tags are ridiculous. Either just type them out normally or be more descriptive if you think your tone is unclear.

agreed.

blablablahello wrote:

cool, but I doubt someones gonna add /sar when being sarcastic (kinda defeats the purpose), or /jk when joking (explaining a joke makes it less funi), and if someone was angry I doub't they would have the patience to add a tag to show it

ScolderCreations wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

Tone tags are ridiculous. Either just type them out normally or be more descriptive if you think your tone is unclear.

based + W + fax

Anyway, I can see this being used to get around the filter.

Let us say “cat” is a slur. Someone could say:

You’re a c | /at

And it wouldn’t be filtered.

You could also say

You’re a good scratcher! | /j

This also isn’t a social media site. I don’t see how comments with tone indicators help people learn to program, or do anything really.

ScolderCreations wrote:

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

zaffyrone wrote:

i do think tone tags are helpful as i struggle with online tone

bit of a rant but

I’m tired of seeing people think they “need” tone indicators. Nobody does. Not even if you’re ND, like me. You can simply explain the tone

isnt that one tone indicators do lmao??????

No. Tell me, what does “/skr” mean? You can’t.

Quote this post if you give up.

sounds like a very specific tone tag that could possibly be understood by those who like whatever shovel knight is.
but like i think you would use /ref for that anyway.
anyway that wasnt really related to my point

But it could also be “Sonic & Knuckles reference”. See, it’s better to use full words, instead of those dumb abbreviations. If you’re dealing with a general audience you can’t expect them to understand random abbreviations.

ChloeKohli wrote:

Chunk_ErRoR_ wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

Tone tags are ridiculous. Either just type them out normally or be more descriptive if you think your tone is unclear.

agreed.

Everyone here is allowed to have opinions

blablablahello wrote:

cool, but I doubt someones gonna add /sar when being sarcastic (kinda defeats the purpose), or /jk when joking (explaining a joke makes it less funi), and if someone was angry I doub't they would have the patience to add a tag to show it

I will understand your point if you understand the fact that people with autism & ADHD & other ND stuff face really annoying accessibility issues

ScolderCreations wrote:

NanoRook wrote:

Tone tags are ridiculous. Either just type them out normally or be more descriptive if you think your tone is unclear.

based + W + fax

Anyway, I can see this being used to get around the filter.

Let us say “cat” is a slur. Someone could say:

You’re a c | /at

And it wouldn’t be filtered.

You could also say

You’re a good scratcher! | /j

This also isn’t a social media site. I don’t see how comments with tone indicators help people learn to program, or do anything really.

Even if scratch was meant for coding and not getting fame, people still like fame, and it is still a social media PLATFORM
Anyways, for the c*t thing, I'm sure people who don't know the real word won't understand what they are saying (much like using “fudge” 2 replace “****”) , and that comment would be reported by many users who know the word, and the comment would take its final breaths and then, yes, the user would get an alert or ban. For the “YOUR A GUD SCRATCHER J” thing, same with the report system. Man, although annoying sometimes, it really protects young children's eyes from inappropriate content.

ScolderCreations wrote:

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

HeliosTheSuperior wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

zaffyrone wrote:

i do think tone tags are helpful as i struggle with online tone

bit of a rant but

I’m tired of seeing people think they “need” tone indicators. Nobody does. Not even if you’re ND, like me. You can simply explain the tone

isnt that one tone indicators do lmao??????

No. Tell me, what does “/skr” mean? You can’t.

Quote this post if you give up.

sounds like a very specific tone tag that could possibly be understood by those who like whatever shovel knight is.
but like i think you would use /ref for that anyway.
anyway that wasnt really related to my point

But it could also be “Sonic & Knuckles reference”. See, it’s better to use full words, instead of those dumb abbreviations. If you’re dealing with a general audience you can’t expect them to understand random abbreviations.

Again, I see your view on things here, but i personally disagree and think they would be extremely useful /gen
i cant believe im da1st persen 2 use tone tags in an argument abt tone tags xD