Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

Same. But a list would be very long. And sometimes, it gets you for something that wasn't on the list, but it thought it was bad. Like I said, it's very erratic.

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

Same. But a list would be very long. And sometimes, it gets you for something that wasn't on the list, but it thought it was bad. Like I said, it's very erratic.

Ok, if a full list would be too long, you could take a subset with the words that are bad enough to be bad words and not the more ok words.

Catzcute4 wrote:

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

If scratch shared all the words that muted you, people would be able to find ways to bypass the filter.

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

Same. But a list would be very long. And sometimes, it gets you for something that wasn't on the list, but it thought it was bad. Like I said, it's very erratic.

Ok, if a full list would be too long, you could take a subset with the words that are bad enough to be bad words and not the more ok words.

But the filter also goes by triggers. If something seems rude, even if it's not, it'll mute you. There isn't a set list for what it will mute you for.
Edit: that will also tach people cuss words and other, more disturbing words

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

OhOkSir12345 wrote:

-Valtren- wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Also, I’ve heard that the bad words list is REALLY broken. For example, I could currently type the H word and someone typed a bad word 1 character off and got filtered. ST, if you see this, please fix the bad word filter.

hell, *, and * aren't filtered by the filter because they're not considered offensive enough
note that the forum filter mutes it because the forum filter is stupid

Might be a bit offtopic but some of the words u listed are asterisks is it cuz they are filtered on the forums but not on the main site?

yeah, that's how the forum filters things

The rest of scratch should

It's really erratic how the filters do things, though.

I got muted for 20 MINUTES and I don’t even know whet the bad word was. Scratch should use a more official list.

Same. But a list would be very long. And sometimes, it gets you for something that wasn't on the list, but it thought it was bad. Like I said, it's very erratic.

Ok, if a full list would be too long, you could take a subset with the words that are bad enough to be bad words and not the more ok words.

But the filter also goes by triggers. If something seems rude, even if it's not, it'll mute you. There isn't a set list for what it will mute you for.
Edit: that will also tach people cuss words and other, more disturbing words

I hope that’s not why false positives exist.

when I receive [bad word detected v]
throw (bad word detector) off a (cliff)

This is an example for the erraticness of the moderator bot, from a post I made a while ago.

zomboss1_1 wrote:

On another issue, the bot seems to have trouble with the words “sucks” and “suck”. Once, I was telling someone that's it's sucks that something happened to them, and they had my support, but got muted. However, I see people everywhere saying, “ah, that sucks” a lot, and they aren't muted.

There are some unfiltered words that can trigger people…

Also can you ppl edit ur posts and add TWs for those words. Thx

If only they would not use a bot(or something smarter).

Catzcute4 wrote:

Well, maybe scratch could just substitute the bad word for a good word that means the same. Don’t ask me how, but i know bad words are usually synonyms of ok words(they are bad because people in the past didn’t like synonyms, for some reason).

most bad words dont have a “good” version of them, as their meanings are literally innapropriate (not many of them means poop)

Catzcute4 wrote:

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Just saying, you can edit quotes, please dont keep quoting on and on, remove parts of it so the conversation is easier to read and not full of unnecesary quotes.

(like what I did up there ^)

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Well, maybe scratch could just substitute the bad word for a good word that means the same. Don’t ask me how, but i know bad words are usually synonyms of ok words(they are bad because people in the past didn’t like synonyms, for some reason).

most bad words dont have a “good” version of them, as their meanings are literally innapropriate (not many of them means poop)

This is sorta true. A** just means donkey, people just made it an offensive term. Same with a couple, stronger words.

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

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Just saying, you can edit quotes, please dont keep quoting on and on, remove parts of it so the conversation is easier to read and not full of unnecesary quotes.

(like what I did up there ^)

Ok, I removed it. Also the link was to a neural network interactive

zomboss1_1 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Well, maybe scratch could just substitute the bad word for a good word that means the same. Don’t ask me how, but i know bad words are usually synonyms of ok words(they are bad because people in the past didn’t like synonyms, for some reason).

most bad words dont have a “good” version of them, as their meanings are literally innapropriate (not many of them means poop)

This is sorta true. A** just means donkey, people just made it an offensive term. Same with a couple, stronger words.

yes, but the b word also only meant a dog, but since people made it offensive, it is now offensive (same with many other words), in fact, if I called you an “egg” in a really offensive way, I could probably make “egg” a swear word as well

now we should probably not be talking about exact swears here lol

blablablahello wrote:

zomboss1_1 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

Well, maybe scratch could just substitute the bad word for a good word that means the same. Don’t ask me how, but i know bad words are usually synonyms of ok words(they are bad because people in the past didn’t like synonyms, for some reason).

most bad words dont have a “good” version of them, as their meanings are literally innapropriate (not many of them means poop)

This is sorta true. A** just means donkey, people just made it an offensive term. Same with a couple, stronger words.

yes, but the b word also only meant a dog, but since people made it offensive, it is now offensive (same with many other words), in fact, if I called you an “egg” in a really offensive way, I could probably make “egg” a swear word as well

now we should probably not be talking about exact swears here lol

XD yeah, of people want to learn them, they can learn them from those shady third graders by the slide, not from us.

Catzcute4 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

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Ok, I removed it. Also the link was to a neural network interactive

Just remember to remove part of (you dont need to remove the entire) quote when it gets too long. btw, the problem with neural networks are that you can either have it: still in a learning mode, where it learns WHILE moderating, or you can have it: in an already learnt mode

Now, if it still learns while moderating, people could very well manipulate it to think a normal word (example here being “egg”) is a bad word (if I keep saying something like “your an egg”, and then the other person pretends to be really angry and offended), or people coudl also make bad words “good”, just by acting as if its normal to say it

If the network ISN"T learning, people could just find bypasses

(although a network still would be better then the current bot)

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

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Ok, I removed it. Also the link was to a neural network interactive

Just remember to remove part of (you dont need to remove the entire) quote when it gets too long. btw, the problem with neural networks are that you can either have it: still in a learning mode, where it learns WHILE moderating, or you can have it: in an already learnt mode

Now, if it still learns while moderating, people could very well manipulate it to think a normal word (example here being “egg”) is a bad word (if I keep saying something like “your an egg”, and then the other person pretends to be really angry and offended), or people coudl also make bad words “good”, just by acting as if its normal to say it

If the network ISN"T learning, people could just find bypasses

(although a network still would be better then the current bot)

What if there was a group of people, who were like… Undercover moderators or something? They look for bypasses to the words, and report with contact us?

zomboss1_1 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

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What if there was a group of people, who were like… Undercover moderators or something? They look for bypasses to the words, and report with contact us?

1st, dont make ur quote that long

anyways though, it would be nice to have those (if we dont already, since they ARE supposed to be undercover), however, unless you hire tens of thousands of these moderators, you really cant cover even 1/1000th of the bad things on scratch (someoone did the math in another post thats also on the front page currently, too lazy to go grab the link)

zomboss1_1 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

blablablahello wrote:

Catzcute4 wrote:

snip-

snip-

Ok, I removed it. Also the link was to a neural network interactive

Just remember to remove part of (you dont need to remove the entire) quote when it gets too long. btw, the problem with neural networks are that you can either have it: still in a learning mode, where it learns WHILE moderating, or you can have it: in an already learnt mode

Now, if it still learns while moderating, people could very well manipulate it to think a normal word (example here being “egg”) is a bad word (if I keep saying something like “your an egg”, and then the other person pretends to be really angry and offended), or people coudl also make bad words “good”, just by acting as if its normal to say it

If the network ISN"T learning, people could just find bypasses

(although a network still would be better then the current bot)

What if there was a group of people, who were like… Undercover moderators or something? They look for bypasses to the words, and report with contact us?

Yeah, what if a team of people told others how to break the system? Scratch would be in big trouble!