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yishujia
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this is just a random idea I had and it's not really anything just yet.

Basically it's something of a camp (?) but also not…. lol

I was thinking of it to take place in June as i personally will have more free time. Leader signups (if the start is solidifed to be in June) will be posted April 1st (jk it'll be a prank lol /j), and camper (but not campers cause this isn't a camp but is) sign-ups will be May 1st.

Without further ado, herre are some of my brainstorming ideas, some of which are not cohesive, btw:
-4 groups (20 people each?)
-Weekly newspaper reporting updates, events, and tips. A question column will be open to all participants to be answered in an issue. (Newspaper will be put together by me + a not yet existent team)
- 2 groups of writers and 2 groups of artists
-Challeges might require participants to band with the opposite group (i.e. artist group with writer group)
-Weekly group elimination(?)
-Whichever group is the last one standing win

If you're interested in helping plan/co-host/participate as leader or co leader, follow this discussion post (so you can get notifs) and drop a post down below so I am notified of your interest.


list of official planners
yishujia
bouquest
mossflower29
Dawnlights-
23BraveHeart
AmazaEevee

host and founder B]
yishujia

potential co-hosts
mossflower29
bouquest
Dawnlights-
AmazaEevee
23BraveHeart

Newspaper Team
yishujia
Dawnlights-
AmazaEevee
23BraveHeart

Last edited by yishujia (Aug. 8, 2022 18:23:49)



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bouquest
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Oooh this seems interesting :0

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mossflower29
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YES this sounds awesome Lia!! I'd love to help out, lmk what you need!


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yishujia
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list of things to figure out/plan
wip

  • how long it should run for

    Typically Scratch camps run for a month, but this isn't a camp, exactly.
    I really want to go through with the idea of the newspaper, which will post
    new issues weekly. A week is the minimum amount of time that I think
    is good for being able to get info, statistics, and put it together, and so
    that should be a factor in deciding the time frame of this project.

  • what we should name it

    A brainstorming idea mentioned previously stated for this to be a place where
    writing and drawing will be the forms of creative arts to be featured. The name
    should allude to that.


  • the elimination process

    Ah yes. A very competitive element, which is elimination. I'm not 100% sure on
    the specifics, but I need feedback on how often the elimination should take place.
    I was thinking a week, but then that would mean that the time frame would need
    to be lengthened drastically in order to accommodate weekly eliminations out of
    who knows how many people.
    I was planning on featuring the unfortunate eliminated person in the newspaper
    as well as getting their teammates reactions.
    The eliminations will be based off of the teams' performance. Again, this is open
    to suggestions, but I was thinking that the team with the least amount of points
    at the start of the weekend must eliminate a member at random (random so as
    not to fuel drama ).

  • how dailies will work

    Since this is planned out to be a writing and drawing thingy, (lol idk what to call it)
    obviously the mediums are a bit different and scoring will also need to be adjusted
    as required. We'll borrow the SAC and SWC forms of minutes and words, obviously
    to the respective teams. But since the artists have something of a disadvantage to
    writers, since they have points based off of an unchangeable unit, time, they'll be given
    a leveler- opportunities to earn more points. The requirements for that will be posted
    in the main studio description. For example, an artist drawing a fullbody for the main
    daily would get extra points if the ‘fullbody’ requirement was listed in the column of
    extra-point activities.
    This doesn't really make any sense lol. But BASICALLY a list of the requirements will be
    posted in the description of the main studio, where challenges and rankings and all that
    good stuff will be. But the requirements will change weekly (example, the first week might
    be like- fullbody = 100 points, headshot = 40 points, etc., but the second week might be
    fullbody = 125 points, lineless = 30(basically the points and the requirements will change
    each week)
    Points are only applicable if the challenge was done that week, if that makes sense.
    Moving on: two dailies will be posted, one for the artists and one for the writers.
    Extra points if you do both (?)


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- C. S. Lewis


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AmazaEevee
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Ooh, this seems cool!

Ellirio2
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I'm interested but totally don't understand what we doing but I would like to be in the write team
Dawnlights-
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Ooh, I love this idea! I'd love to participate!

bouquest
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Alright this seems cool! I’d love to participate if possible, for elimination, I’m not sure if it would be a good idea to eliminate person by person, but rather maybe team by team, since creating a newspaper is kinda teamwork or something? Idk

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23BraveHeart
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sounds like a cool idea :0 - may I participate :]]
hehe totally didn't find this while snooping ✨


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yishujia
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AmazaEevee wrote:

Ooh, this seems cool!
Thanks would you like to help in planning?

Ellirio2 wrote:

I'm interested but totally don't understand what we doing but I would like to be in the write team
Okay would you like to be notified for participant/leader sign-ups then? This thread is more for planning and brainstorming

bouquest wrote:

Alright this seems cool! I’d love to participate if possible, for elimination, I’m not sure if it would be a good idea to eliminate person by person, but rather maybe team by team, since creating a newspaper is kinda teamwork or something? Idk
I'm adding you to the list of official planners and possible co-hosts :> ummm yeah that actually makes sense and it will help be cohesive the typical time frame of one month- though the camp might go a little longer depending on how many groups we decide to make…

23BraveHeart wrote:

sounds like a cool idea :0 - may I participate :]]
hehe totally didn't find this while snooping ✨
thanks ! and yeah, if this ever becomes an actual thing (lol), you're totally welcome to participate! would you like to help plan?

Last edited by yishujia (Aug. 7, 2022 22:47:37)



✦ lia ✦ christian ✦ ‘writer’ ✦ ‘artist’ ✦ infj-t

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Isn't it funny how day by day
nothing changes, but when you look back
everything is different.

- C. S. Lewis


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yishujia
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Dawnlights- wrote:

Ooh, I love this idea! I'd love to participate!
oop sorry I missed you in the previous mass post- would you like to just be notified for potential sign-ups or would you like to help plan/be a potential co-host?


✦ lia ✦ christian ✦ ‘writer’ ✦ ‘artist’ ✦ infj-t

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Isn't it funny how day by day
nothing changes, but when you look back
everything is different.

- C. S. Lewis


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mossflower29
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yishujia wrote:

list of things to figure out/plan
wip

how long it should run for
That sounds good, I love the newspaper idea!! How many people were you thinking would participate? If it was one week per person, even if you just had 10 per team it could go on for 4 months…

yishujia wrote:

what we should name it
I will be very unhelpful here, I'm not great with names xD


yishujia wrote:

the elimination process

Hmm, this sounds really interesting, but it could potentially be annoying if you were really active and got eliminated close to the start, or if your team had lots of inactive people who weren't chosen to be eliminated. I'll think more about this and suggest some things soon :)

yishujia wrote:

how dailies will work
Sounds interesting!! What if you're a writer and an artist? Would you only be able to do one daily? And yeahh I totally agree that minutes and words don't go together very well. Maybe writing could also be measured in minutes? Idk how well that would work, though…


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Dawnlights-
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yishujia wrote:

Dawnlights- wrote:

Ooh, I love this idea! I'd love to participate!
oop sorry I missed you in the previous mass post- would you like to just be notified for potential sign-ups or would you like to help plan/be a potential co-host?
I'd like to be a potential co-host if that's alright?

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yishujia wrote:

23BraveHeart wrote:

sounds like a cool idea :0 - may I participate :]]
hehe totally didn't find this while snooping ✨
thanks ! and yeah, if this ever becomes an actual thing (lol), you're totally welcome to participate! would you like to help plan?
I would love to <3


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yishujia
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mossflower29 wrote:

That sounds good, I love the newspaper idea!! How many people were you thinking would participate? If it was one week per person, even if you just had 10 per team it could go on for 4 months…
bouquest came up with a possible solution

I was thinking maybe cap 80, just to start… do you think that's too much, too little, or just right? (hehtnaejtjzdg goldilock vibes lolll)

mossflower29 wrote:

yishujia wrote:

what we should name it
I will be very unhelpful here, I'm not great with names xD
lol that's okay


mossflower29 wrote:

yishujia wrote:

the elimination process

Hmm, this sounds really interesting, but it could potentially be annoying if you were really active and got eliminated close to the start, or if your team had lots of inactive people who weren't chosen to be eliminated. I'll think more about this and suggest some things soon :)
see my reply to your first point

mossflower29 wrote:

yishujia wrote:

how dailies will work
Sounds interesting!! What if you're a writer and an artist? Would you only be able to do one daily? And yeahh I totally agree that minutes and words don't go together very well. Maybe writing could also be measured in minutes? Idk how well that would work, though…

I should add that the participants should only be in one group, artist or writer- they cant be in both. I said before that if you do the writer and the artist daily you get extra points- but I was thinking that for interlacing challenges (artist+writer challenges) you need to have two people. For example, say that you are in the artist group but you also write. And there is the daily which states you must collaborate with a participant in a writer group- you can't do it just by yourself, even if you can write and draw. That would give some disadvantages to people who can't do both, I think. I mean, for the most part i think that most artists can write and most writers can art. I think.

I did put in the suggestion of the leveler for artists so as to somewhat even out the odds-


✦ lia ✦ christian ✦ ‘writer’ ✦ ‘artist’ ✦ infj-t

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Isn't it funny how day by day
nothing changes, but when you look back
everything is different.

- C. S. Lewis


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yishujia
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Dawnlights- wrote:

I'd like to be a potential co-host if that's alright?

absolutely! adding you to the list (i was going to personally ask you before- but then i remember you mentioning you had a lot of camps lined up and so I didn't want to pile more stuff on you <3 but here we are anyway xD )

23BraveHeart wrote:

I would love to <3
okay, adding you! thanks


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Isn't it funny how day by day
nothing changes, but when you look back
everything is different.

- C. S. Lewis


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mossflower29
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bouquest came up with a possible solution
Ooh that sounds really cool! So it would still be randomized, but a team would go out each week? That might work, but I'd advise not having small teams that have to work together often, in case one of the people is inactive.

I was thinking maybe cap 80, just to start… do you think that's too much, too little, or just right? (hehtnaejtjzdg goldilock vibes lolll)
Sounds good!

I should add that the participants should only be in one group, artist or writer- they cant be in both. I said before that if you do the writer and the artist daily you get extra points- but I was thinking that for interlacing challenges (artist+writer challenges) you need to have two people. For example, say that you are in the artist group but you also write. And there is the daily which states you must collaborate with a participant in a writer group- you can't do it just by yourself, even if you can write and draw. That would give some disadvantages to people who can't do both, I think. I mean, for the most part i think that most artists can write and most writers can art. I think.
Makes sense


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yishujia wrote:

I was thinking maybe cap 80, just to start… do you think that's too much, too little, or just right? (hehtnaejtjzdg goldilock vibes lolll)
Per team or in total?

mossflower29 wrote:

bouquest came up with a possible solution
Ooh that sounds really cool! So it would still be randomized, but a team would go out each week? That might work, but I'd advise not having small teams that have to work together often, in case one of the people is inactive.
I believe Lia mentioned in the first post that there will be 4 teams of 20 people (?)


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Ooh you guys did a lot of planning! Okay here’s some things here: (wait also how do you quote a bunch of things inside one thing?)

Anyways-

Dailies:
Okay I don’t know why, but I think having to write a newspaper and have a daily May be too much. Maybe there could be a task every 2 or 3 days or something? This is just my personal opinion.

Newspaper:
Each week, there will be a certain prompt or something and a group of uhmmmm 20 people- or is that too much? There could be 8 teams of 10 people, and it could take two months, or no- that’s too much maybe? Idk about this yet

Elimination:
Okay so if we were going with eliminating teams, then what would the disqualified people do after then? Could they still do dailies?

Signups:
Boop remember this is just my random ideas these are completely deniable:
Okay so I would think of this more as a competition, since your competing, usually when I’m assigned in a group irl, you just go along with it, and no one’s really in charge… wait nvm technically it would be more organized if you were in charge hmmmm I wouldn’t really think of this as a camp though so maybe we should go with something more original- wait no.

Cabins:
Do these exist? Would they make it too complex?

Planning forums:
Uhmm after we get enough cohosts and stuff do we make a seperate planning forum?

Times:
June 2023-sometime depending on groups and counts and stuff

Judges:
For each weeks newspaper, who judges them?

Name suggestions:
I’m bad with these but uhm I might think of some later :p

Questions:
-can judges participate? (Hmm this might be obvious or something but uh-)
-how would you release the final product with art and writing? Would it be on a Google docs? What if someone couldn’t go on there or access it? What would happen if they passed the deadline because a leader had something happen irl?
-would there be coleaders?
-what happens after elimination?
-I might have more later

Gtg good luck


Last edited by bouquest (Aug. 8, 2022 01:48:18)


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mossflower29 wrote:

bouquest came up with a possible solution
Ooh that sounds really cool! So it would still be randomized, but a team would go out each week? That might work, but I'd advise not having small teams that have to work together often, in case one of the people is inactive.
I mean that the team with the least amount of points at the end of the week will be eliminated. And if you mean not having small teams regarding the challenges- yeah those won't be super often.

23BraveHeart wrote:

yishujia wrote:

I was thinking maybe cap 80, just to start… do you think that's too much, too little, or just right? (hehtnaejtjzdg goldilock vibes lolll)
Per team or in total?
Total

23BraveHeart wrote:

mossflower29 wrote:

bouquest came up with a possible solution
Ooh that sounds really cool! So it would still be randomized, but a team would go out each week? That might work, but I'd advise not having small teams that have to work together often, in case one of the people is inactive.
I believe Lia mentioned in the first post that there will be 4 teams of 20 people (?)
I think Moss was just mentioning the fact that there shouldn't be too many dailies that require partnership between people because of different time schedules

bouquest wrote:

wait also how do you quote a bunch of things inside one thing?
you just go to the bottom right corner of the posts you want to quote and click the quote button for each post. They should all show up in the textbox

bouquest wrote:

Dailies:
Okay I don’t know why, but I think having to write a newspaper and have a daily May be too much. Maybe there could be a task every 2 or 3 days or something? This is just my personal opinion.
I had to read this a couple times to understand. I think you may have gotten the wrong idea- correct me if I'm wrong, though. Are you thinking that the campers/participants will have to write a newspaper? Because that's not what i was going for. The weekly newspaper will be posted sometime on the weekend and will be produced and created by me and a team of people, probably leaders and co-hosts or just other people. Sorry if this was confusing- maybe I didn't explain it very well (lol im very bad at communicating)

bouquest wrote:

Newspaper:
Each week, there will be a certain prompt or something and a group of uhmmmm 20 people- or is that too much? There could be 8 teams of 10 people, and it could take two months, or no- that’s too much maybe? Idk about this yet
I was confused about this before I realized your thought process but yeah- see above answer

bouquest wrote:

Elimination:
Okay so if we were going with eliminating teams, then what would the disqualified people do after then? Could they still do dailies?
I'm not completely sure about the elimination process at the moment. I'm debating whether we should keep it or not.

bouquest wrote:

Signups:
Boop remember this is just my random ideas these are completely deniable:
Okay so I would think of this more as a competition, since your competing, usually when I’m assigned in a group irl, you just go along with it, and no one’s really in charge… wait nvm technically it would be more organized if you were in charge hmmmm I wouldn’t really think of this as a camp though so maybe we should go with something more original- wait no.
my poor night brain:
okay um- *blink*
I'm not sure what you're trying to articulate but in short, even in competitions there's always (as far as i know) a host or smth along the lines of a host, who just oversees everything and makes sure everything is going smoothly.

bouquest wrote:

Cabins:
Do these exist? Would they make it too complex?
Well yes, but actually no.
XD
Yes, but I'm not sure what theme we're going for- but yes, the concept of how cabins work will be used

bouquest wrote:

Planning forums:
Uhmm after we get enough cohosts and stuff do we make a seperate planning forum?
Yeah I was actually thinking about that early today

bouquest wrote:

Times:
June 2023-sometime depending on groups and counts and stuff
I'm assuming this is just a note :')

bouquest wrote:

Judges:
For each weeks newspaper, who judges them?
See previous answers regarding your questions about the newspaper


bouquest wrote:

would there be coleaders?
yes

Last edited by yishujia (Aug. 8, 2022 02:21:15)



✦ lia ✦ christian ✦ ‘writer’ ✦ ‘artist’ ✦ infj-t

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Isn't it funny how day by day
nothing changes, but when you look back
everything is different.

- C. S. Lewis


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