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TheClaw7654
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ban contests that give fame as a reward

this is a short suggestion, but i think that ‘contests’ that give out fame (follows, loves, faves) should be banned. for example, someone's 1k follower contest (not saying who)'s first prize will be follows from ALL prize givers, and as of now there are OVER 300 prize givers. fame is meant to be earned with effort and dedication, not from winning random contests.

smaller contests that only give, lets say 5 are fine, but those that give ridiculous amounts should be banned.

Last edited by TheClaw7654 (July 28, 2022 09:59:04)

Eagle138
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ban contests that give fame as a reward

But the winner of those followers did put in effort and dedication - to make a project good enough to win the contest. I agree that lucky draws that give out huge amounts of followers should be banned, but not contests.
TheClaw7654
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500+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

Eagle138 wrote:

But the winner of those followers did put in effort and dedication - to make a project good enough to win the contest. I agree that lucky draws that give out huge amounts of followers should be banned, but not contests.
as long as the follower stakes arent too high, it is fine.
-Valtren-
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

I honestly think you're a bit jealous. if the prize is fame, you'd obviously have to work extremely hard to get 1st prize to the point you'd deserve it.
TheClaw7654
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500+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

-Valtren- wrote:

I honestly think you're a bit jealous. if the prize is fame, you'd obviously have to work extremely hard to get 1st prize to the point you'd deserve it.
i aint jealous, im just saying that people might only just enter for the follows and not the actual contest
epicboi17
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100+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

honestly imma agree with this one since contests are supposed to be only for fun (like a game jam) and there usually shouldnt be prizes besides if your project is good enough itll be mentioned (like game jams). the fame part will then come if people check out your game and THEN follow you because they want to, not following you because you win a funny contest
prizes themselves shouldnt be fame, fame in contests should come from you doing well and people liking your work and thats that imo
DarthVader4Life
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

If the prize givers are doing it because they want to, then it is fine.
If there's a lot of prize givers, then there's a lot of prize givers.
The amount of “fame” is quite irrelevant, especially if prize givers are choosing to do as their title suggests.
Prince_Wolf1
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

But if there are OVER 300 prize givers then there are a lot of participants
And if it’s alert or a game they probrably worked really hard on it so the prize might be fair
With a deadline and working days on a game or art against over 300 participants would be hard
To win so maybe they deserve it.
TheClaw7654
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500+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

bump
-iviedwall-
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500+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

Eagle138 wrote:

But the winner of those followers did put in effort and dedication - to make a project good enough to win the contest. I agree that lucky draws that give out huge amounts of followers should be banned, but not contests.
Yes, but at the same time, what if all the entries are low-effort? This means none of the participants deserve the prizes, and is common with small contests
Eagle138
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ban contests that give fame as a reward

-iviedwall- wrote:

Eagle138 wrote:

But the winner of those followers did put in effort and dedication - to make a project good enough to win the contest. I agree that lucky draws that give out huge amounts of followers should be banned, but not contests.
Yes, but at the same time, what if all the entries are low-effort? This means none of the participants deserve the prizes, and is common with small contests
But smaller contests likely don't have as many/as big prizes, making them less of an issue than those big 300-follower contests.

Last edited by Eagle138 (July 28, 2022 07:59:28)

dertermenter
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

I believe this is already implemented based on this post:

harakou wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It's not allowed.
^ This. Giveaways for things of real monetary value are definitely not ok. Anything that requires you to love/follow or gives out loves/follows as a reward wouldn't be allowed either.
The underlined bit shows that giving out social actions/fame is not allowed, and I think this also applies for smaller fame giving contests, not just the big ones.
-iviedwall-
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500+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

dertermenter wrote:

I believe this is already implemented based on this post:

harakou wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It's not allowed.
^ This. Giveaways for things of real monetary value are definitely not ok. Anything that requires you to love/follow or gives out loves/follows as a reward wouldn't be allowed either.
The underlined bit shows that giving out social actions/fame is not allowed, and I think this also applies for smaller fame giving contests, not just the big ones.
It says that anything that you must give out fame to reward isn't allowed. Contest prizegivers are not forced to give prizes. They want to give prizes.
when some grammar checker wants to replace “give prizes” with “provide tips”
-Valtren-
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

to put it short, if you do get famous from winning a contest, you most likely deserve it.
Paddle2See
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1000+ posts

ban contests that give fame as a reward

dertermenter wrote:

I believe this is already implemented based on this post:

harakou wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It's not allowed.
^ This. Giveaways for things of real monetary value are definitely not ok. Anything that requires you to love/follow or gives out loves/follows as a reward wouldn't be allowed either.
The underlined bit shows that giving out social actions/fame is not allowed, and I think this also applies for smaller fame giving contests, not just the big ones.
Right. We have taken that position in the past. However, it is difficult to enforce since it is such a wide-spread practice. At this point, we are taking a softer line and only removing projects from the front page if we see social actions being used as prizes. So, in a sense, we are discouraging the activity rather than forbidding it.

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