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Support but say a famous scratcher made something that they said they could take (like a sprite and background a code) would that count as a remix?

Let's say a person wants to make a level in a game where the only way to save is to remix but the project either is too large to remix or requires Turbowarp. They would have to save locally, import and share which does not count as a remix.

A problem is that a project made from a tutorial series would be marked as a remix of the full project with no changes meaning pretty much imminent removal (they are usually remixes of asset projects).

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

Support but say a famous scratcher made something that they said they could take (like a sprite and background a code) would that count as a remix?

No.

I think most of you are missing the point of the suggestion: if a project seems like it probably could've been a remix of another project, it will become a remix through a moderator action. It is not automatic, and it is intended as a way to let moderators give credit for what could be a stolen project.

QuantumScratcher wrote:

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A problem is that a project made from a tutorial series would be marked as a remix of the full project with no changes meaning pretty much imminent removal (they are usually remixes of asset projects).

If they gave proper credit, then it shouldn't be a problem.

portalpower wrote:

anyway, I asked for this topic to be reopened because I forgot to say, what I mean is when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Paddle2See wrote:

I've seen very similar projects made from the instructions in books about Scratch. They looked practically identical - but they were not generated from each other.

What if there is some tutorial for making a Scratch project that isn't on the website itself? The moderators could easily make the mistake of marking one project as a remix of the other in that case.

portalpower wrote:

so when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Besides, if a project is an exact copy, shouldn't the moderator just… unshare it? I don't see how this suggestion would help with anything.

thugatwoary wrote:

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portalpower wrote:

anyway, I asked for this topic to be reopened because I forgot to say, what I mean is when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Paddle2See wrote:

I've seen very similar projects made from the instructions in books about Scratch. They looked practically identical - but they were not generated from each other.

What if there is some tutorial for making a Scratch project that isn't on the website itself? The moderators could easily make the mistake of marking one project as a remix of the other in that case.

I think that they still have to put credit. I could be wrong though. Either way, it doesn't really matter, all that happens is a project gats marked as a remix.

thugatwoary wrote:

portalpower wrote:

so when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Besides, if a project is an exact copy, shouldn't the moderator just… unshare it? I don't see how this suggestion would help with anything.

Reread that post again.

portalpower wrote:

thugatwoary wrote:

(#46)

portalpower wrote:

anyway, I asked for this topic to be reopened because I forgot to say, what I mean is when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Paddle2See wrote:

I've seen very similar projects made from the instructions in books about Scratch. They looked practically identical - but they were not generated from each other.

What if there is some tutorial for making a Scratch project that isn't on the website itself? The moderators could easily make the mistake of marking one project as a remix of the other in that case.

I think that they still have to put credit. I could be wrong though. Either way, it doesn't really matter, all that happens is a project gats marked as a remix.

thugatwoary wrote:

portalpower wrote:

so when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Besides, if a project is an exact copy, shouldn't the moderator just… unshare it? I don't see how this suggestion would help with anything.

Reread that post again.

My terrible reading aside, it's possible for similar projects to not be remixes, even if they're not from a tutorial. Relying on automated judgement here is impossible, and relying on human judgement will lead to a lot of errors and confusion, and this doesn't do anything to stop exact copies.

This will also be an absolute nightmare for Scratch's developers, to not just have to make it so a project gets marked as a remix and it shows up in the remixes of the original, but also for supporting the legacy remix tree feature, and making it so all projects in the remix tree of the marked as remix project now have the root ID pointing to the new root so it all still makes sense. If you can't understand what I just said, then that alone should give you an idea of how terrible this would be for the devs.

PoIygon wrote:

but, if someone spams projects with all code possibilities then every project would just be a remix

There are just way too many possibilities.

thugatwoary wrote:

portalpower wrote:

thugatwoary wrote:

(#46)

portalpower wrote:

anyway, I asked for this topic to be reopened because I forgot to say, what I mean is when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Paddle2See wrote:

I've seen very similar projects made from the instructions in books about Scratch. They looked practically identical - but they were not generated from each other.

What if there is some tutorial for making a Scratch project that isn't on the website itself? The moderators could easily make the mistake of marking one project as a remix of the other in that case.

I think that they still have to put credit. I could be wrong though. Either way, it doesn't really matter, all that happens is a project gats marked as a remix.

thugatwoary wrote:

portalpower wrote:

so when someone reports a similar project for being an exact copy, a mod will make it a remix

Besides, if a project is an exact copy, shouldn't the moderator just… unshare it? I don't see how this suggestion would help with anything.

Reread that post again.

My terrible reading aside, it's possible for similar projects to not be remixes, even if they're not from a tutorial. Relying on automated judgement here is impossible, and relying on human judgement will lead to a lot of errors and confusion, and this doesn't do anything to stop exact copies.

This will also be an absolute nightmare for Scratch's developers, to not just have to make it so a project gets marked as a remix and it shows up in the remixes of the original, but also for supporting the legacy remix tree feature, and making it so all projects in the remix tree of the marked as remix project now have the root ID pointing to the new root so it all still makes sense. If you can't understand what I just said, then that alone should give you an idea of how terrible this would be for the devs.

But you report right?
So if mods see it they make it a remix,if there are stuff to see if it’s in another project then they wouldn’t be as confused.
And what about in the report a link to the one they think is the original?
ST compares and if they have stuff see if anything’s the same and if it’s not a picture they didn’t draw
And then marked as remix if it’s too close or taken down if it’s the same
I might not understand,correct me,
Wouldn’t they just make it the lates remix in the remix tree?
And if I’m wrong yeah it’s confusing

ScolderCreations wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

Support but say a famous scratcher made something that they said they could take (like a sprite and background a code) would that count as a remix?

No.

I think most of you are missing the point of the suggestion: if a project seems like it probably could've been a remix of another project, it will become a remix through a moderator action. It is not automatic, and it is intended as a way to let moderators give credit for what could be a stolen project.

I understand the suggestion
The OG post says nothing about automatic or not soo