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ShadowSayaka
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

Hello there Des!
Can I call you that it’s so much easier but if you hate it I’ll stop

I have created our forum okay I need to stop beating around the bush

Our work so far:

Genre: Medieval-Fi, Adventure (Fantasy?)
Perspective: 1st person (switches between good and bad guy?)
Plot twist: good and bad guy are related/friends? Or maybe have an important emotional bond, like one saved the other but they didn’t recognise each other when they became enemies?

Protagonist:
A spy
Needs gender, rough age and backstory

Antagonist:
Fun loving
Needs gender, rough age (should be close to the protagonist’s, though) and backstory with an important singular instance involving the protagonist (wow that’s a long word let’s just say MC instead :3)

We need two characters and a world.
So an easy one: our world, a new world, or a rip-off of our world like in Ranger’s Apprentice?

How about nine chapters:
4 for each side of the story (maybe 3/5 instead?) plus a together chapter at the end for the climax.

And your thoughts?

Last edited by ShadowSayaka (June 4, 2022 00:32:41)

-DesVision-
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

Yes, you can call me Des, but not anyone else. This is great! I was thinking maybe a two-part finale? I thought that would be a fun way to finish the series off, but that might be too far away atm.

I don't think we decided on a specific time period for our spy, I thought we were just doing some historicl-spy-stuff. Me being the overthinker that I am has compiled a list of time periods to pick fro our story to take place.

Medieval: The spy could be a priest or a monk, but that kind of limits where adventures could happen. It also brings in the religous debate. Fun thing to write about tho.

Ancient Greece/Rome:

World Wars:

Future: Allows us to make up a bunch of stuff, but that's going to take longer than just picking something that actually happened.
ShadowSayaka
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

-DesVision- wrote:

Yes, you can call me Des, but not anyone else. This is great! I was thinking maybe a two-part finale? I thought that would be a fun way to finish the series off, but that might be too far away atm.

Nah, two part finale could work! We’ll see where the story takes us, hey?

I don't think we decided on a specific time period for our spy, I thought we were just doing some historicl-spy-stuff. Me being the overthinker that I am has compiled a list of time periods to pick fro our story to take place.

Medieval: The spy could be a priest or a monk, but that kind of limits where adventures could happen. It also brings in the religous debate. Fun thing to write about tho.

Oh, when I thought medieval spy, I went “spy for the king!” But a religious one could work — and that’s a reason to make a new world, so that our new god/s don’t offend anybody! In Beegirl, I invented a god called Paper and most of the time he just insults himself (by his idiotic actions) and no-one seemed offended.
-DesVision-
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

This works, so medieval spy it is! I like your idea with the ‘spy for the king’ think better. We can also use a bunch of stuff from the real world, but add our own things like gods and new kingdoms.
ShadowSayaka
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

-DesVision- wrote:

This works, so medieval spy it is! I like your idea with the ‘spy for the king’ think better. We can also use a bunch of stuff from the real world, but add our own things like gods and new kingdoms.
Okay, well, the god of thieves, assassins and tricksters must be called Shadow. :}
Okay, so we need a bad guy — it’s a spy story, but what kind of thing is the spy trying to stop? Treason? Mass murder? Religious takeover?
OH YES SOY FOR THE KING VS (actually powerless) CULT!!!
So we have our spy for the king who, in the first chapter, stumbles upon the cult, something like that scene in The Red Fox Clan where Maddie waits in the old church for the meeting, but then gets scene. Except in our version, the lead bad guy sees our man (or woman? Or other? Not to be sexist or anything, but I think that male or other would be good wow that was so sexist) and then recognises them as the person they saved when they were both kids!!
Okay okay that has little cohesion, but I think it’s a good starting point.
soy? Spy. Scene? Seen. Ugh so much errors

Last edited by ShadowSayaka (June 16, 2022 21:43:49)

-DesVision-
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

You're right, the god of theives should be called Shadow and should have a couple daggers at all times. Tricksters and assasins will be added in throughout the whole story. Where the bad guy thing comes in though, I think that should be Shadow, the god of theives. OOH! I just had a revelation, what if the assasins and tricksters are all named Shadow (like you said) and they are the Shadow Army of the god of theives.The main character is at an event with a friend when the shdaow army is trying to take somebody out. MC sees the murd3r and is now being hunted by the Shadow Army for being a witness. What should this be called, btw?
ShadowSayaka
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

-DesVision- wrote:

You're right, the god of theives should be called Shadow and should have a couple daggers at all times. Tricksters and assasins will be added in throughout the whole story. Where the bad guy thing comes in though, I think that should be Shadow, the god of theives. OOH! I just had a revelation, what if the assasins and tricksters are all named Shadow (like you said) and they are the Shadow Army of the god of theives.The main character is at an event with a friend when the shdaow army is trying to take somebody out. MC sees the murd3r and is now being hunted by the Shadow Army for being a witness. What should this be called, btw?
Okay that went dark quickly AND I LOVE IT!
This is genius; our spy for the king follows the fanatic assassin cultists and tries to stop them. But the person they are protecting has a secret and it could lead our MC to discovering why the Shadow army wants what they want. This is great!!! Okay, next order of business… plot line. What does the Shadow Army want? We should start with that. And we’ll incorporate our mysterious secret holder into that too.
(Real-fi mass murder and cultists are so fun! Have you read any HP Lovecraft >:} ?)
-DesVision-
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

One more thing for the Shadow Army, the MC doesn't know who the actual god of theives is within the Army. They are all equally powerful, but plot twist the god of theives is MC's friend from the beggining event!

Ok, now onto the more important stuff.

What does the Shadow Army want? … we’ll incorporate our mysterious secret holder into that too.

The Shadow Army wants SOMETHING. I can't figure out anything that the Shadow Army would want from MC. What do you mean by secret holder?

I have not read anything by HP Lovecraft, did he write something like ths?
ShadowSayaka
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

OH what I meant by “god” wasn’t a title, but an actual god. Although a secret leader who claims to be an emissary of Shadow and fools the Shadow army for his own gain… that’s juicy!
So, I mean, at the start of the story, the Shadow army’s elite assassin squad (just made that up, we’ll need a cool name for them) tries to kill somebody, but the MC saves them. This brings our MC into the conflict. So they drag along the person they saved, and the person they saved has a secret: they won’t tell our MC why the Shadow army wants them. But this secret could unravel the whole army’s plot, but the secret still keeps the secret for so,e reason. This is also helpful because it adds depth to our plot, and gives us a deuteragonist.
HP wrote gothic horror stuff like The Call of Cthulhu — Google it

Last edited by ShadowSayaka (July 1, 2022 10:27:03)

-DesVision-
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

i like that. so the mc saved somebody from being k!lled by the shadow army's elite assassin squad. mc is now being tracked becasue the person who was saved has a secret. sounds good! what's next?
ShadowSayaka
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

-DesVision- wrote:

i like that. so the mc saved somebody from being k!lled by the shadow army's elite assassin squad. mc is now being tracked becasue the person who was saved has a secret. sounds good! what's next?
Characters. I was thinking there would be four main ones:
- main protagonist
- secret holder
- main antagonist
- leader of the elite assassin squad

We’ll both do two; a main and a minor. I’d be happy to do any. Also, let’s not make the secret holder female in case people get angry about us stereotyping. In my head they were all male, but I’d seem sexist. So a balance should be good. So do you want the ant or pro? FYI, I’d like to do the lead assassin
-DesVision-
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

wait, i thought that the main antagonist was the leader of the assassin squad? or did i miss something?
ShadowSayaka
Scratcher
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Erie and Shadow’s Collab

-DesVision- wrote:

wait, i thought that the main antagonist was the leader of the assassin squad? or did i miss something?
I was thinking there was a whole cult with a dude leading tricking them, and then the assassin squad was their best members. They too are fooled by the leader however.
Fooled into thinking that Shadow (the god) is real. Because Shadow is not.

EDIT: okay now we need to do the characters/story.

Scene 1:

A fair, full of games and performers to entertain. Juicy meats on spits are what our main character is eyeing. On a rare day off from working with royal intelligence, they take to the streets to watch the comings and goings of the fair. On the far side of the fair, hidden behind the tents, they witness somebody running. He has a bright red cut on his cheek and keeps on looking back terrified, running faster and faster. Only with a keen eye does the MC pick out the runner through the forest behind them. They jog over to cut off the man and grab his shoulder, causing him to jump and shout. Cool, calm and collected as ever, the MC scans the area the man was running from, picking out a grey figure in a faraway tree. They are like a ninja, but wearing a cloak with a white sash.another figure takes out a crossbow and fires at the MC, but it misses and goes into the left palm of the man. The MC takes of their cloak pin to show the two assassins; his mark of office as a senior peace keeper and intelligence member. The bristle but do not move, relaxing slightly as the forest goes silent and the fair fades into the background.

Scene 2:

The lead assassin shows up, blah blah blah, the MC runs away with the man who refuses to tell the MC why the “Shadow Army” wants him and chapter ends. I’all finish this off some other time, but not now. And that will be chapter one.

Last edited by ShadowSayaka (July 9, 2022 07:33:13)

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