Worst programming class/tutorial/educational resource you've ever been used?

mbrick2

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
(#5)
w3schools is free code!
what developer says no to free code?

Me.

-EmeraldThunder-

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
(#5)
w3schools is free code!
what developer says no to free code?

I'm not saying no to all free code, but W3Schools is quite vague on what they are trying to put forward and doesn't include many things that would be nice to know.

god286

Chiroyce wrote:
god286 wrote:
It says “Bootstrap 3” not “Bootstrap 5”
Bruh

I know you said Bootstrap 4 in your image.
But that was probably just a patch to Bootstrap 4, because a closer look shows this:

And in the blog:

mbrick2

Chiroyce wrote:
w3shools has helped me sometimes, but that's only because it was quicker that searching through MDNs docs. I've seen w3schools have incorrect information and I did fall for it, had to spend a long time trying to figure out what was wrong.

The C++ is dogy

-EmeraldThunder-

mbrick2 wrote:
(#24)
Chiroyce wrote:
w3shools has helped me sometimes, but that's only because it was quicker that searching through MDNs docs. I've seen w3schools have incorrect information and I did fall for it, had to spend a long time trying to figure out what was wrong.
The C++ is dogy

I managed to get to a decent level of c++ using w3 schools, however some resources did need to be corrected.

mbrick2

god286 wrote:
You guys have real coding computer classes in your school?

Are school teaches how to say things in scratch. Its sad. I know.

Chiroyce

mbrick2 wrote:
Are school teaches how to say things in scratch. Its sad. I know.

*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.

mbrick2

Chiroyce wrote:
*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.

I wish schools would teach JS and Python. Or at least HTML

MagicCrayon9342

mbrick2 wrote:
(#28)
Chiroyce wrote:
*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.
I wish schools would teach JS and Python. Or at least HTML

or stupid code.org which is also blocks
its not real code! you aren't getting a job using blocks!!

NanoRook

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
mbrick2 wrote:
(#28)
Chiroyce wrote:
*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.
I wish schools would teach JS and Python. Or at least HTML
or stupid code.org which is also blocks
its not real code! you aren't getting a job using blocks!!

Complain about block-based programming all you want, but try and stick a kid with zero/novice programming experience in front of a C compiler (or even vanilla JavaScript) and they won't have the slightest idea what to do.

A large part of learning programming is not only wrapping your head around terminology, but also learning how a program is structured. Proper formatting and knowing when to use what are especially important skills that you shouldn't overlook, because it doesn't matter what you know if you can't even get a Python program to compile without errors. Blocks help provide a way to dip your foot in the pool before you throw yourself into a lake of sharks.

Also FWIW Code.org does offer a text-based programming course, but it's less than ideal and you'll have better luck just teaching yourself.

Last edited by NanoRook (March 14, 2022 18:34:14)

god286

mbrick2 wrote:
god286 wrote:
You guys have real coding computer classes in your school?
Are school teaches how to say things in scratch. Its sad. I know.

Same, I think only when we get older then they will teach us about these things. By that time though I expect that a lot of people in this forum right now will be way beyond the basics of Python if they still like coding.

9pfs

Chiroyce wrote:
w3shools has helped me sometimes, but that's only because it was quicker that searching through MDNs docs. I've seen w3schools have incorrect information and I did fall for it, had to spend a long time trying to figure out what was wrong.

and also, our school's computer class. they try to simplify things too much and eventually it becomes wrong. they claim that “computers with large amounts of processing power, connected to the internet” is a server, which is partially true, but that's definitely not close to the definition of a server.

the best resource i've found is Corey Schafer on YouTube (Python) and MDN's docs (HTML, CSS, JS and browser APIs).

In my opinion, a server is any computer I've installed Node on (with maybe nginx or a few other programs as well) that has a program which runs on startup and listens on at least one TCP port. In other words, 90% of the computers I've used.

kccuber

Chiroyce wrote:
mbrick2 wrote:
Are school teaches how to say things in scratch. Its sad. I know.
*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.

mine taught us how to make a maze game in scratch, and i went a bit crazy with it and made an iterative loop system to spawn coins

Chiroyce

kccuber wrote:
mine taught us how to make a maze game in scratch, and i went a bit crazy with it and made an iterative loop system to spawn coins

i made a pacman game when the teacher expected us to make a pong game

mbrick2

Honestly when I introduced myself to python and js I wondered how to make sprites. Then I realized whats it really like

Chiroyce wrote:
i made a pacman game when the teacher expected us to make a pong game

My teacher expected me to make a cat that talks and I coded a 3D archery game (that I sadly broke when adding the store)

Last edited by mbrick2 (March 15, 2022 05:40:39)

mbrick2

-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
I managed to get to a decent level of c++ using w3 schools, however some resources did need to be corrected.

Real C++

#include <iostream>
int main()
{
  std::cout << "Hello, World!" << std::endl;
  return 0;
}

W3Schools C++

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main() {
  cout << "Hello World!";
  return 0;
}

It forgets std:

Jeffalo

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:
mbrick2 wrote:
(#28)
Chiroyce wrote:
*Our and yes, they teach Scratch at a very basic level for middle schoolers.
I wish schools would teach JS and Python. Or at least HTML
or stupid code.org which is also blocks
its not real code! you aren't getting a job using blocks!!

you are on the block coding website my guy.

mbrick2

Jeffalo wrote:
you are on the block coding website my guy.

Mind Blown.

Rendangbike2

my school thinks that basic understanding in scratch and photopea not photoshop, photopea is cs

Chiroyce

Rendangbike2 wrote:
my school thinks that basic understanding in scratch and photopea not photoshop, photopea is cs

to be fair - even if you're a user of the internet and not a tech geek/programmer/developer you need to know way more than that to survive in this online jungle, scams and phishing and malware and stuff are all problems students are rarely taught how to avoid. (our school in total had like 3 chapters for HTML and one for basic cyberbullying prevention)

Last edited by Chiroyce (March 18, 2022 11:18:33)

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