sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Prime689 wrote:

FAQ wrote:

Can I sell my Scratch projects?
Yes: Your Scratch project is your creation. But keep in mind that once you share your project on the Scratch website, everyone is free to download, remix, and reuse the project based on the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. So if you intend to sell your project, you may want to un-share it from the Scratch website.

Keep in mind that you are allowed to sell your projects commercially.

sharkode wrote:

Making money off your own project is fine, though, the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (that also includes people who remix your projects, which is fair since other people shouldn't be selling work without your permission and you don't even get a cent)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

Source?

ToU wrote:

4. User-Generated Content and Licensing


4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. This allows others to view and remix your content. This license also allows the Scratch Team to display, distribute, and reproduce your content on the Scratch website, through social media channels, and elsewhere. If you do not want to license your content under this license, then do not share it on Scratch.

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

Source?

https://scratch.mit.edu/terms_of_use/

ToU wrote:

4. User-Generated Content and Licensing


4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. This allows others to view and remix your content. This license also allows the Scratch Team to display, distribute, and reproduce your content on the Scratch website, through social media channels, and elsewhere. If you do not want to license your content under this license, then do not share it on Scratch.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

Source?

https://scratch.mit.edu/terms_of_use/

ToU wrote:

4. User-Generated Content and Licensing


4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. This allows others to view and remix your content. This license also allows the Scratch Team to display, distribute, and reproduce your content on the Scratch website, through social media channels, and elsewhere. If you do not want to license your content under this license, then do not share it on Scratch.

Ok so technically I don't own my own projects, and I need to say “Thanks to Scratch for making my project that I made by myself” when uploading them elsewhere?

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

Source?

https://scratch.mit.edu/terms_of_use/

ToU wrote:

4. User-Generated Content and Licensing


4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. This allows others to view and remix your content. This license also allows the Scratch Team to display, distribute, and reproduce your content on the Scratch website, through social media channels, and elsewhere. If you do not want to license your content under this license, then do not share it on Scratch.

Ok so technically I don't own my own projects, and I need to say “Thanks to Scratch for making my project that I made by myself” when uploading them elsewhere?

Unless Scratch says you don't have to, which they do, then yes (though you do have to say they were made using Scratch)

This is because all user generated content is created through Scratch, using Scratch materials. Yes, you do own your projects, but Scratch owns them more than you do.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

Currently, Scratch uses CC BY-SA licence, meaning anyone can take whatever is shared on Scratch and sell them or use them for commercial purposes (This has rarely happened, but it has happened at least once as far as I know), I suggest that Scratch should use CC BY-NC-SA licence, which doesn't allow commercial use

This would mean you wouldn't be able to sell your own Scratch project for real-life value.

Making money off your own project is fine, though, I think the “non-commercial use” is exclusively for other people (I think)

Also, why would share a project if you intend on making money off it?

1. No. It refers to all material made on Scratch, including your own things. Using this licence will disallow users to sell their projects.

2. It might be a good project that you decide later on you want to sell.

Who cares? You own the project and you would not get into trouble if you don't sue yourself, which you probably won't, plus offline editors exist
You can still sell the projects as long as you are the owner

Creative Commons official site wrote:

The NonCommercial limitation applies to licensed uses only and does not restrict use by the licensor.
As with all CC licenses, the NC licenses only restrict what a reuser may do under the license and not what the licensor (rights holder) can do. Licensors that make their works available under an NC license are always free to monetize their works.

Not every project has it's own Creative Commons license. Scratch has a singular Creative Commons license for every project. As such, according to this license, if it's created using Scratch materials, it can't be sold or used for non-commercial purposes.

Source?

https://scratch.mit.edu/terms_of_use/

ToU wrote:

4. User-Generated Content and Licensing


4.3 All user-generated content you submit to Scratch is licensed to and through Scratch under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. This allows others to view and remix your content. This license also allows the Scratch Team to display, distribute, and reproduce your content on the Scratch website, through social media channels, and elsewhere. If you do not want to license your content under this license, then do not share it on Scratch.

Ok so technically I don't own my own projects, and I need to say “Thanks to Scratch for making my project that I made by myself” when uploading them elsewhere?

Unless Scratch says you don't have to, which they do, then yes (though you do have to say they were made using Scratch)

This is because all user generated content is created through Scratch, using Scratch materials. Yes, you do own your projects, but Scratch owns them more than you do.

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

Not if you didn't use their canvas.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

Not if you didn't use their canvas.

alright, it's just confusing at this point, I should report this post to get the attention of ST so they can come here and explain the situation

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

Not if you didn't use their canvas.

alright, it's just confusing at this point, I should report this post to get the attention of ST so they can come here and explain the situation

Basically, if you use Scratch's tools to create something, then Scratch owns it. Simple as that, shouldn't be confusing.

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

Not if you didn't use their canvas.

alright, it's just confusing at this point, I should report this post to get the attention of ST so they can come here and explain the situation

Basically, if you use Scratch's tools to create something, then Scratch owns it. Simple as that, shouldn't be confusing.

What about the offline editor?

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

sharkode wrote:

qloakonscratch wrote:

~snip~

So if someone gives me a paintbrush and I use it to make a painting it's technically their painting and not mine?

Not if you didn't use their canvas.

alright, it's just confusing at this point, I should report this post to get the attention of ST so they can come here and explain the situation

Basically, if you use Scratch's tools to create something, then Scratch owns it. Simple as that, shouldn't be confusing.

What about the offline editor?

The offline editor is still Scratch's tools. They just can't do anything to it.