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- NanoRook
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Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?
I've had a lot of people tell me that Linux is a great desktop experience and worth dual-booting with Windows (or just running it as your only OS entirely) but I don't see it. As a person who mainly uses their PC for gaming, I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows. I also do some programming but it's mostly web stuff and therefore OS doesn't really matter in that regard.
From my perspective, it seems like Linux–even with its massive platform/distro fragmentation–seems best if you have a niche technical need that requires more freedom than what Windows or MacOS provides.
I've had a lot of people tell me that Linux is a great desktop experience and worth dual-booting with Windows (or just running it as your only OS entirely) but I don't see it. As a person who mainly uses their PC for gaming, I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows. I also do some programming but it's mostly web stuff and therefore OS doesn't really matter in that regard.
From my perspective, it seems like Linux–even with its massive platform/distro fragmentation–seems best if you have a niche technical need that requires more freedom than what Windows or MacOS provides.
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It's not the best for everyone, windows certainly has a lot more software written for it and is supported by more platforms making it peferable for gaming. Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?
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- HacksonJackson
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You dont need to. If you are happy, then thats fine. Question from a lifelong Windows user; why should I?
I've had a lot of people tell me that Linux is a great desktop experience and worth dual-booting with Windows (or just running it as your only OS entirely) but I don't see it. As a person who mainly uses their PC for gaming, I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows. I also do some programming but it's mostly web stuff and therefore OS doesn't really matter in that regard.
From my perspective, it seems like Linux–even with its massive platform/distro fragmentation–seems best if you have a niche technical need that requires more freedom than what Windows or MacOS provides.
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I feel the same way about Proton. It's basically supporting Linux in the “check-box” sense, such that one must install a bunch of bloated libraries. I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows.
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If this is the right place to say so… I personally love Linux Mint. It has such a nice DE and is very customizable. It's also simple, and Ubuntu-based because I have no idea how to use the terminal in Arch-based distros.
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- MagicCrayon9342
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(#565)It's so easy to just click the check box let steam install its dependencies and have the game work easyI feel the same way about Proton. It's basically supporting Linux in the “check-box” sense, such that one must install a bunch of bloated libraries. I don't want to have to install Electron or WINE or any other third party program just to emulate what I can already do standalone on Windows.
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Wifi drivers are the WORST.
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That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing Wifi drivers are the WORST.
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Wifi has never worked for me. I have to use a VM for it to be stable.That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing Wifi drivers are the WORST.
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I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?Wifi has never worked for me. I have to use a VM for it to be stable.That's why it's so important to make sure everything works in the Live CD environment before installing Wifi drivers are the WORST.
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It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
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Driver support isn't even an issue! Just buy one of those laptops with Google's Chromium rip-off installed and install whatever you want. Those devices have to have good driver support because they basically can't change anything. But you gotta remember its an OS used by the 1%, ofc drivers won't be the best especially in the category of devices where companies mostly have proprietary drivers.
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Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
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Realtek.Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
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What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.Realtek.Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
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Manjaro for distribution and nope. Arch didn't work either.What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.Realtek.Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
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My realtek network controller (RTL8821CE) wasn't supported by default in the Fedora kernel. It started working randomly, however.What distribution or kernel? I've tested Realtek in kernel 4.19 all the way to 5.15 and have never had issues with it. All distributions should have realtek working out of the box.Realtek.Intel (tm lmao) or realtek (tm lmao)It's funny because that was the adapter I was working with. The drivers didn't work. I had a similar issue on an Intel WiFi adapter, I can agree the WiFi drivers are pretty bad. The only WiFi device you can get to be stable on linux is RealTek its because their drivers are open source?
- b1048546
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That was the one that didn't work. It connects and disconnects a lot. My realtek network controller (RTL8821CE) wasn't supported by default in the Fedora kernel. It started working randomly, however.