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Queer_Royalty
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed. Instead create a new topic.
First of all, there should be a comma after ‘Instead’.

Second of all, I think many users may interpret this the wrong way. “Spam is not allowed here; create your own spam topic.” Can you maybe re-order it to be something like this:
Please don't ask your questions here, you will get more answers if you make your own topic for it. You may, however, suggest questions and topics to be added to the lists. Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed.

edit: oh dangit i forgot about the capital letters thing. anyway, i think this post is formal enough to warrant standard capitalization rules.

Last edited by Queer_Royalty (Nov. 16, 2021 00:28:10)

mrcreatorluigi
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Something to note out is that in the “What is necroposting?” section it doesn’t mention the Bugs and Glitches forum at all, even when that forum doesn’t have advertising.
Queer_Royalty
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Queer_Royalty wrote:

Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed. Instead create a new topic.
First of all, there should be a comma after ‘Instead’.

Second of all, I think many users may interpret this the wrong way. “Spam is not allowed here; create your own spam topic.” Can you maybe re-order it to be something like this:
Please don't ask your questions here, you will get more answers if you make your own topic for it. You may, however, suggest questions and topics to be added to the lists. Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed.

edit: oh dangit i forgot about the capital letters thing. anyway, i think this post is formal enough to warrant standard capitalization rules.
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TheForumer
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Queer_Royalty wrote:

Queer_Royalty wrote:

Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed. Instead create a new topic.
First of all, there should be a comma after ‘Instead’.

Second of all, I think many users may interpret this the wrong way. “Spam is not allowed here; create your own spam topic.” Can you maybe re-order it to be something like this:
Please don't ask your questions here, you will get more answers if you make your own topic for it. You may, however, suggest questions and topics to be added to the lists. Also, abide by the community guidelines; spam of any kind is not allowed.

edit: oh dangit i forgot about the capital letters thing. anyway, i think this post is formal enough to warrant standard capitalization rules.
post bump
Thanks, I reordered it - that does seem confusing.
The “Instead” thing I'm going to say no to since I don't like to use the Oxford Comma in things like this.
10goto10
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

I’ve noticed that several people recently have asked essentially the same question “what is the oldest Scratch project?”. Then someone will quickly answer “weekend”. This is of course wrong.

You have a section nine (Random or Historical Aspects of Scratch) that gives and answers this question “What is the first project on Scratch” with the answer also given as “weekend”. This is better but it’s not what people are asking and still might be wrong.

The oldest project that I’ve seen is the one included with the February 2004 version of Scratch. Unless someone downloads that version of Scratch it’s not easy to see but I have recreated it here https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/646429640/

If “on Scratch” means the website then the oldest snapshot of the scratch.mit.edu website in the wayback machine is here https://web.archive.org/web/20060902103825/http://scratch.mit.edu/ from Sep 2, 2006. Going through it I see an entry at the bottom of the shared projects called Natalie ducks. This project is now found here: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/61449/ but also shows up in the Scratch 1.1 installation exe file.

I found some class material for an MIT class MAS714 that requires the Oct 2004 version of Scratch. The wayback machine dates the projects as October 2004. I’ve loaded workable versions of the projects here: https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/30767325/

If your question is asking “what is the project that still can be found on the Scratch community website with the oldest share date?” then, until recently, “weekend” was the correct answer. Or perhaps “what is the project that is still shared on the Scratch community website with the lowest project number that does not appear to have been overwritten by the developers while they were doing their testing.” (1-103 were investigated by CatsUnited https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/402504/?page=1#post-4001440 )

All of this is pretty long and your index is already very long. Maybe the question should just be left off of your list since “weekend” is only the right answer to a very oddly worded question.


Updated 2/20/2020 to add a reference to the status of the unshared projects 1-103.

Last edited by 10goto10 (Feb. 20, 2022 13:48:39)

10goto10
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“Am I allowed to use copyrighted songs in my Scratch projects”.

Yes, most of the time. The Scratch Team will only take down your project that uses a copyrighted song if the main focus of the project is the copyrighted song (https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/265161/) or if the owner of the song complains that your use of their song does not met the standard of Fair Use. Fair Use is a way for people to legally use copyrighted songs without asking the owner for permission (https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html). Non-profit education use is usually accepted as Fair Use but an owner can decide make an objection using a process called DMCA.

Scratch Team member Paddle2see summarized it this way:

paddle2see wrote:

Well, I'm not a lawyer so I can't really advise you on the use of copyrighted material in Scratch projects. It's best to use music and images that allow free use - or use your own music and images. However, if you chose to use copyrighted material and you are challenged by the owner of the copyright, you could probably claim that you were exercising your right to “fair use” given that this is an educational website and nobody is making any money here. See http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html for more information.

We have received takedown notices from copyright owners in the past. When we get one, we usually push back with the “fair use” argument. Sometimes it works and they allow the use; other times they do not and the project has to be removed from Scratch.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/96850/?page=1#post-849832
han614698
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

10goto10 wrote:

“Am I allowed to use copyrighted songs in my Scratch projects”.

Yes, most of the time. The Scratch Team will only take down your project that uses a copyrighted song if the main focus of the project is the copyrighted song (https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/265161/) or if the owner of the song complains that your use of their song does not met the standard of Fair Use. Fair Use is a way for people to legally use copyrighted songs without asking the owner for permission (https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html). Non-profit education use is usually accepted as Fair Use but an owner can decide make an objection using a process called DMCA.

Scratch Team member Paddle2see summarized it this way:

paddle2see wrote:

Well, I'm not a lawyer so I can't really advise you on the use of copyrighted material in Scratch projects. It's best to use music and images that allow free use - or use your own music and images. However, if you chose to use copyrighted material and you are challenged by the owner of the copyright, you could probably claim that you were exercising your right to “fair use” given that this is an educational website and nobody is making any money here. See http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html for more information.

We have received takedown notices from copyright owners in the past. When we get one, we usually push back with the “fair use” argument. Sometimes it works and they allow the use; other times they do not and the project has to be removed from Scratch.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/96850/?page=1#post-849832
Does this mean that the quote in my directory is wrong?

I’m not seeing the difference between the two quotes.
10goto10
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

han614698 wrote:

Does this mean that the quote in my directory is wrong?

I’m not seeing the difference between the two quotes.
I didn’t find the quote in your directory. I searched for copyright (because people usually ask about copyrighted material) and I did a search for fair (as in fair use) and I didn’t find anything. I did see the post about music sharing and was going to suggest pointing to the actual Scratch Team announcement (dietbacon) but the explanation by other Scratchers is fine.

If I missed seeing the Paddle2see quote then you might want to add to your example question something about Fair Use or Copyright.

(And I looked for and didn’t find DMCA — but that’s not what I see people asking about. I see people often ask if they are allowed to use copyrighted songs in their projects.)
ninomiya_masataka
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

I have a question. If you are calculating a list or variable of 16 characters or more, the numbers will be different. Is it a specification?
k0d3rrr
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

ninomiya_masataka wrote:

I have a question. If you are calculating a list or variable of 16 characters or more, the numbers will be different. Is it a specification?
The title says:

The title of this sticky wrote:

(Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)
If you want to, you can make a question right here (or perhaps here?) Thanks!
Miweoro
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

when green flag clicked
set [variable name] to [0.30]
play drum ( v) for (foo) beats
That was logic?
VedanshS933
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Pls remove symbols
conghai2013
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

why when i create game but many clone get error
VioletCalico
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

conghai2013 wrote:

why when i create game but many clone get error
There’s a limit to the amount of clones you can have, which I believe is 300. In the future, you can ask about coding in the Help with Scripts forum.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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TheForumer wrote:

Questions About Scratch Directory #1 - by @xXRedTheCoderXx
Questions About Scratch Directory #2 - by @han614698

Wait, if there are two versions already, how come this version is called “ The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0” instead of 3.0?

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (March 24, 2022 04:01:40)

THETIGER35
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Is @ScratchCat basically an account managed by all scratch team members?
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

THETIGER35 wrote:

Is @ScratchCat basically an account managed by all scratch team members?

Pretty much, yeah. It’s useful for when they need it.
han614698
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Gliffe wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

TheForumer wrote:

Questions About Scratch Directory #1 - by @xXRedTheCoderXx
Questions About Scratch Directory #2 - by @han614698

Wait, if there are two versions already, how come this version is called “ The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0” instead of 3.0?

I think they might have redesigned it in some way at some point. I think that would explain why it’s called “2.0”, although I’d like to hear someone verify this.
Here’s some verification. (I’m TheForumer's alt account) Even though I transferred this over to the account “TheForumer”, I still own the actual guide myself so I’m not going to change the version.
TheForumer
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

Hey Scratch Team or anyone else!

Please don't close this topic over April Fools.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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The Questions About Scratch Directory 2.0 (Please Don't Ask Questions Here!)

TheForumer wrote:

Hey Scratch Team or anyone else!

Please don't close this topic over April Fools.

I don’t think they will, since Questions about Scratch isn’t going to be used for joke topics in the first place.

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