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NormalMaker
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GameDevRemade wrote:

Guys, the OP is asking for a workaround for coding achievements, where scratch has an achievement system that you implant into your game, not one that the user themselves codes, which is rejected. I know this because of how he says it, it's just like Roblox's achievements. However, coding your own achievement system is not rejected.
The ‘OP’ is asking for a way to easily make an achievement system in a project that doesn't give any kind of currency, not an achievement system for Scratch in general.
NormalMaker
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GameDevRemade wrote:

No, he is asking FOR scratch to implant an achievement system, not easily make an achievement system. That's why this is in suggestions, not script help.
That's what I said.
Roblox888i
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Cant you do this with code?
dhuls
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Roblox888i wrote:

No support, The purpose of scratch is to learn and code it wouldn't be a good fit for scratch (you can put achievements in your game without scratch adding it.)
Still haven't read the stickies, have you?

Sigton wrote:

Sixth Suggestion:
(Thanks to Tymewalk)

Stop saying this:
No support, there's a workaround.

The point of Scratch is to be a challenge, not just hand every block over to the user on a sliver platter. Users should work to get these scripts, not just have it done for them.
It's that last sentence especially that gets me angry. People just discard an idea because it “makes things too easy”.

The common response is “why do we have move () steps then”, but it goes much farther than that - why do we have “go to” if we can use “set x” and “set y”? Why use any of the pen stuff, you can replicate it with “stamp”? Why have clones, just make other sprites?

The answer is because not everything has to be challenging. So what if “real programming languages don't do that”? Scratch is supposed to be an introduction to programming, meaning that it's easier. And yes, there are cases where you have to say “no support”. But don't just say it because “it's not challenging enough”.

A block that calculates the sunset based on the user's given location? That's a little too far. A block that converts a “days since 2000” to real-time? That would be OK.

So please, take the time to read through suggestions before dissing them as “not challenging enough”.
mumu245
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Too specific! Don't you understand? It will only be used for games.
DarthVader4Life
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mumu245 wrote:

Too specific! Don't you understand? It will only be used for games.
It's not too specific, as it is customizable and you are the one making it. Too specific would be adding an achievement across all projects (or even just your project) for your game, and your game alone. And “don't you understand” is a bit condescending. Since you could easily make an achievement for an animation (by finding some hidden things or something), I'd say that it wouldn't be only for games.
-Quantum_Studios-
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Support. I understand that the OP means a simple way to add an achievement system within your project. I've always wanted to have a simple way to create an achievement system for my games.
mumu245
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DarthVader4Life wrote:

mumu245 wrote:

Too specific! Don't you understand? It will only be used for games.
It's not too specific, as it is customizable and you are the one making it. Too specific would be adding an achievement across all projects (or even just your project) for your game, and your game alone. And “don't you understand” is a bit condescending. Since you could easily make an achievement for an animation (by finding some hidden things or something), I'd say that it wouldn't be only for games.
But, I don't like pre-made things. A generic data storage feature would be better.
-Quantum_Studios-
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GameDevRemade wrote:

Problem is, this really is only for games, which is what people are saying. When are you going to use this in animations?
The majority of projects made by the kind of people this would appeal to are games.
NormalMaker
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GameDevRemade wrote:

NormalMaker wrote:

GameDevRemade wrote:

No, he is asking FOR scratch to implant an achievement system, not easily make an achievement system. That's why this is in suggestions, not script help.
That's what I said.
No, you were talking about project specific achievements, and I was talking about scratch achievements, which is what this is about.

FireArrow879 wrote:

It works so scratchers can add achievements to their projects
DarthVader4Life
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GameDevRemade wrote:

NormalMaker wrote:

GameDevRemade wrote:

No, he is asking FOR scratch to implant an achievement system, not easily make an achievement system. That's why this is in suggestions, not script help.
That's what I said.

No, you were talking about project specific achievements, and I was talking about scratch achievements, which is what this is about.
No, this is about adding a way to make project achievements (not programming it in the project), not scratch achievements, which is rejected. You are not the OP, so please don't assume that you know what they want and are suggesting.

mumu245 wrote:

DarthVader4Life wrote:

mumu245 wrote:

Too specific! Don't you understand? It will only be used for games.
It's not too specific, as it is customizable and you are the one making it. Too specific would be adding an achievement across all projects (or even just your project) for your game, and your game alone. And “don't you understand” is a bit condescending. Since you could easily make an achievement for an animation (by finding some hidden things or something), I'd say that it wouldn't be only for games.
But, I don't like pre-made things. A generic data storage feature would be better.
Well that's just it, it's not pre-made. A generic data storage feature would be better if this was a suggestion for save data. It's not.

Last edited by DarthVader4Life (Nov. 3, 2021 21:47:56)

lightning1999
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Reev0102 wrote:

No support. This is too specific to add to Scratch, and will only be used for games. Why don't you try to code it yourself?
I second this
VeryFamus
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lightning1999 wrote:

Reev0102 wrote:

No support. This is too specific to add to Scratch, and will only be used for games. Why don't you try to code it yourself?
I second this

Please provide more info than “I second this” this helps no one and usually is about as useful as it is to bump every minute.
NormalMaker
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GameDevRemade wrote:

NormalMaker wrote:

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Exactly, and if you read it, he says by Scratch implanting it, so people don't have to code it. Once you get an achievement, it saves on your profile, like how roblox achievement systems work. This is why this is in suggestions, because he is suggesting scratch to implant this system, and not in help with scripts.
There was no mention of the achievements being saved on profiles.
I don't think you understand what is being discussed, so I'll provide a quick summary of the discussion.
You said that it was a achievement system for the entirety of Scratch. (Which it is not.)
I said that it was a achievement system for projects. (Which it is.)
You said that it was Scratch implementing an achievement system. (Which is what I said.)
I said that that was what I said.
You said that I was talking about project achievements and that you were talking about Scratch achievements and that was what this suggestion is about. (It is not.)
I provided a quote that proved it was about project achievements.
You said “Exactly” (I don't know what you mean by that), and that the achievements would be saved on your profile. (I don't know where you got that idea from.)
DarthVader4Life
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GameDevRemade wrote:

DarthVader4Life wrote:

GameDevRemade wrote:

NormalMaker wrote:

GameDevRemade wrote:

No, he is asking FOR scratch to implant an achievement system, not easily make an achievement system. That's why this is in suggestions, not script help.
That's what I said.

No, you were talking about project specific achievements, and I was talking about scratch achievements, which is what this is about.
No, this is about adding a way to make project achievements (not programming it in the project), not scratch achievements, which is rejected. You are not the OP, so please don't assume that you know what they want and are suggesting.

Thing is, I do know what they are suggesting, it's a copy off of roblox achievement system.
Thing is, you don't. You don't know that it's a copy of the roblox achievement system. It could simply be that they used that as reference. (And have now removed that from their posts, so if that doesn't convey that the roblox system isn't what is being suggested, I don't know what would.)
FireArrow879
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I used Roblox as a reference. The achievement would pop up below the project when one gets the project-specific achievement, and it won’t show for anyone else. You can add project-specific achievements in the editor.

Last edited by FireArrow879 (Nov. 4, 2021 20:58:50)

64lu
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i'm not sure whether this would be a good addition to scratch because (as other people have said) it seems pretty specific to games.
i feel like this suggestion or other similar ones would allow people to create achievement systems more easily while also allowing the use of it for more than achievements.
NormalMaker
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GameDevRemade wrote:

FireArrow879 wrote:

I used Roblox as a reference. The achievement would pop up below the project when one gets the project-specific achievement, and it won’t show for anyone else. You can add project-specific achievements in the editor.
Ok, but does it save to your profile like roblox? While it is project-specific, you are asking scratch to implant this feature, which has been rejected already. You must code your own project achievements.
8.7 is rejecting any form of digital currency, not achievements themselves. This suggestion doesn't contain any mention of currency.
-ElectronicArts-
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no support this can make scratcher competing each other
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Semi-support, while it is a good idea and would be used a lot, I feel like the ST wouldn't have the resources to make it now.

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