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gosoccerboy5
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Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
- only 25 posts per topic. “you are free to make a new topic at any time”
dhuls
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the new scratch-www studio page

gosoccerboy5 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
- only 25 posts per topic. “you are free to make a new topic at any time”
Yet they don't like duplicates.
kccuber
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dhuls wrote:

Also:
- Open Source Projects, Developing Scratch Extensions, and Connecting to the Physical world merged with the Advanced Topics (good?)
- Advanced Topics possibly shutdown (bad)
- Things I'm Making and Creating, Things I'm Reading and Playing, and Show and Tell merged (bad)
- Requests, Collaboration, Project Ideas, and Help with Scripts merged (bad)
- Subcategories in the language forums (good)
- Language forums moved up (okay?)
i would like if they made a “Things I'm Writing” section because SWC is taking over TIMaC
LegoManiac04
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Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
To be honest I doubt they'll mess anything else up. They did what they did with studios because of the problems they were posing on the performance and moderation side of things. The forums don't really have much of any issues, nor are they that hard to moderate, so I can't see much going wrong here.

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (July 21, 2021 18:34:45)

dhuls
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LegoManiac04 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

9gr wrote:

im hoping for forums update next year
The order is probably
  1. Profiles
  2. My Stuff
  3. Miscellaneous (Cloudmonitor, statistics, etc.)
  4. Forums
That would mean a new update every 3 months, which I would be fine if done right, but it would probably be rushed.
To be honest I doubt they'll mess anything else up. They did what they did with studios because of the problems they were posing on the performance and moderation side of things. The forums don't really have much of any issues, nor are they that hard to moderate, so I can't see much going wrong here.
I honestly can't think of a way to mess up profiles and my stuff (except for hiding follower counts, but I think that's rejected)
Austinato
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LegoManiac04 wrote:

To be honest I doubt they'll mess anything else up. They did what they did with studios because of the problems they were posing on the performance and moderation side of things. The forums don't really have much of any issues, nor are they that hard to moderate, so I can't see much going wrong here.
that we know of
AmazingMech2418
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Raihan142857 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

9gr wrote:

im hoping for forums update next year
The order is probably
  1. Profiles
  2. My Stuff
  3. Miscellaneous (Cloudmonitor, statistics, etc.)
  4. Forums
That would mean a new update every 3 months, which I would be fine if done right, but it would probably be rushed.
A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
Well, if they do increase the filtering here, it might allow them to bring back the Discuss button! XD Though, they can't really include muting here because there's the false mute forum topic.
lapisi
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dhuls wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

9gr wrote:

im hoping for forums update next year
The order is probably
  1. Profiles
  2. My Stuff
  3. Miscellaneous (Cloudmonitor, statistics, etc.)
  4. Forums
That would mean a new update every 3 months, which I would be fine if done right, but it would probably be rushed.
To be honest I doubt they'll mess anything else up. They did what they did with studios because of the problems they were posing on the performance and moderation side of things. The forums don't really have much of any issues, nor are they that hard to moderate, so I can't see much going wrong here.
I honestly can't think of a way to mess up profiles and my stuff (except for hiding follower counts, but I think that's rejected)
no, it's actually partially accepted, the follower count is much harder to notice now
dhuls
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lapisi wrote:

dhuls wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

9gr wrote:

im hoping for forums update next year
The order is probably
  1. Profiles
  2. My Stuff
  3. Miscellaneous (Cloudmonitor, statistics, etc.)
  4. Forums
That would mean a new update every 3 months, which I would be fine if done right, but it would probably be rushed.
To be honest I doubt they'll mess anything else up. They did what they did with studios because of the problems they were posing on the performance and moderation side of things. The forums don't really have much of any issues, nor are they that hard to moderate, so I can't see much going wrong here.
I honestly can't think of a way to mess up profiles and my stuff (except for hiding follower counts, but I think that's rejected)
no, it's actually partially accepted, the follower count is much harder to notice now
Moving is not the same as removing.
scratchusername40
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Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
gdpr5b78aa4361827f5c2a08d700
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scratchusername40 wrote:

They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
probably nodebb
AmazingMech2418
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scratchusername40 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
They probably wouldn't. They want everything on their website and likely won't move everything to another platform that's harder to moderate.
dhuls
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AmazingMech2418 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
They probably wouldn't. They want everything on their website and likely won't move everything to another platform that's harder to moderate.
They can host it themselves. Plus, Discourse is open source so they are probably gonna customize it heavily like they did with DjangoBB (and maybe FluxBB when 1.x used that)
scratchusername40
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AmazingMech2418 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
They probably wouldn't. They want everything on their website and likely won't move everything to another platform that's harder to moderate.
They're not going to end up using djangobb though
kccuber
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dhuls wrote:

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
They probably wouldn't. They want everything on their website and likely won't move everything to another platform that's harder to moderate.
They can host it themselves. Plus, Discourse is open source so they are probably gonna customize it heavily like they did with DjangoBB (and maybe FluxBB when 1.x used that)
i hope they don't use discourse as it has infinite scrolling and it seems more like an unmoderated chat site than a forum. heck even the regular forums without “”the extension“” look better than discourse
nodebb actually makes sense cause 2.0 = django (2.0 forums = djangobb) so 3.0 = node (3.0 forums would be nodebb)

Last edited by kccuber (July 21, 2021 22:38:19)

dhuls
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kccuber wrote:

dhuls wrote:

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

Raihan142857 wrote:

A forums update would be terrible. This is what I guess will happen:
- You need to wait 5 minutes between posts
- You get muted for saying bad words that normally get censored with *s, and names of websites that you can't mention on the main website, like Discord
- Automatic post dustbinning
- Code tag will be removed
- The page is way too large and only can fit 5 posts
They'll probably just move it to discourse or something like it and do some small changes
They probably wouldn't. They want everything on their website and likely won't move everything to another platform that's harder to moderate.
They can host it themselves. Plus, Discourse is open source so they are probably gonna customize it heavily like they did with DjangoBB (and maybe FluxBB when 1.x used that)
i hope they don't use discourse as it has infinite scrolling and it seems more like an unmoderated chat site than a forum. heck even the regular forums without “”the extension“” look better than discourse
nodebb actually makes sense cause 2.0 = django (2.0 forums = djangobb) so 3.0 = node (3.0 forums would be nodebb)
Discourse is open source so they can customize it, but yeah, NodeBB does make more sense.

Also:
scratchr=PHP
FluxBB=PHP
scratchr2=Python
DjangoBB=Python
scratch-www=Node
NodeBB=(guess)

Edit: NodeBB is open source so they don't need to pay and they can still heavily customize it.
Edit2: It also uses Transifex. It's like it was made for 3.0

Last edited by dhuls (July 23, 2021 02:27:01)

Maximouse
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I don't think the fact that NodeBB is written in the same language as their API makes it much more likely to be used.
BarelySmooth
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Maximouse wrote:

I don't think the fact that NodeBB is written in the same language as their API makes it much more likely to be used.
I hope they won't make any big changes — I like the current UI of the forums
AmazingMech2418
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Maximouse wrote:

I don't think the fact that NodeBB is written in the same language as their API makes it much more likely to be used.
It makes it easier to maintain, I think. Like as Scratch transitions to Node as a primary backend language, it makes sense that devs will become more skilled in Node and less skilled in Django, so it's best to use a platform that can be maintained by the devs they have. Also, allows a lot of Scratch 3.0 tools to be integrated with the new forums easier. XD
BarelySmooth
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AmazingMech2418 wrote:

Also, allows a lot of Scratch 3.0 tools to be integrated with the new forums easier. XD
Like the CleanSpeak filter-bot? I mean, its perfectly possible to mute users if they say something bad in a post.

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

Though, they can't really include muting here because there's the false mute forum topic.
You forgot the form



(The post says there will be a form in the future)

ScratchCat wrote:

There will be a form built into the filterbot window to gather your thoughts and report mistakes.

Last edited by BarelySmooth (July 22, 2021 13:04:33)

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