Discuss Scratch

SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

SimplxSunset wrote:

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset

Agreed, especially on mobile. Everything looks too big. Plus, what even IS the point of being a manager?
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Milkysplash wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset

Agreed, especially on mobile. Everything looks too big. Plus, what even IS the point of being a manager?

Yeah, it’s basically a name with no meaning!
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Milkysplash wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset

Agreed, especially on mobile. Everything looks too big. Plus, what even IS the point of being a manager?

Yeah it’s basically just like being a curator, a name: but with no real meaning.
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

SimplxSunset wrote:

Milkysplash wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset

Agreed, especially on mobile. Everything looks too big. Plus, what even IS the point of being a manager?

Yeah it’s basically just like being a curator, a name: but with no real meaning.

At this point, managers have no power…
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Milkysplash wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

Milkysplash wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

Please change the studio layout back.
Reasons why people don’t like the new update:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.

Scratch is expanding, but leave it the way it is. Big updates don’t usually make it better, it makes big arguments. Updating scratch so much isn’t making it better! It’s making people leave. We miss the old scratch. It used to not be about fame. It was about supporting others and sharing coding and creations! People have made scratch camps, which are fun and exciting. The biggest one: scratch writing camp, has over 1000 members this year. You earn points for weir ting you do in this camp, and managers are supposed to add the points. But one owner can’t handle over 1000 people! Please please change it back. I might leave scratch too.

Thanks for listening, I guess.

-SimplxSunset

Agreed, especially on mobile. Everything looks too big. Plus, what even IS the point of being a manager?

Yeah it’s basically just like being a curator, a name: but with no real meaning.

At this point, managers have no power…

It’s so dumb- I just want it to go back to the way it was
-Kryptonite-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

SimplxSunset wrote:

-People are leaving scratch because if it.
Those people are overreacting, it's amusing to me.

SimplxSunset wrote:

-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
Scratch was made for computers NOT mobile

SimplxSunset wrote:

-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
That's to reduce lag, Scratch forgot to add the “+” so “+100 followers”. Just like with projects and comments for studios.

No support I worship the 3.0 update for studios and will stick by this forever.
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

-Kryptonite- wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

-People are leaving scratch because if it.
Those people are overreacting, it's amusing to me.

SimplxSunset wrote:

-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
Scratch was made for computers NOT mobile

SimplxSunset wrote:

-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
That's to reduce lag, Scratch forgot to add the “+” so “+100 followers”. Just like with projects and comments for studios.

No support I worship the 3.0 update for studios and will stick by this forever.

I disagree, but I don’t want to get in a big argument. I respect your opinion, thanks for listening to mine.
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

-Kryptonite- wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

-People are leaving scratch because if it.
Those people are overreacting, it's amusing to me.

SimplxSunset wrote:

-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
Scratch was made for computers NOT mobile

SimplxSunset wrote:

-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
That's to reduce lag, Scratch forgot to add the “+” so “+100 followers”. Just like with projects and comments for studios.

No support I worship the 3.0 update for studios and will stick by this forever.

May I hear your reasoning? Also, you're forggetting that because of this update, the entire roleplaying community, scratch camps and more are going to be destroyed. As someone who has been in both of those communities, will you actually consider what damage this is doing?
dertermenter
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

They won't change the design back, and the design is neat, but they just need to remove the manager restrictions and maybe the reply limit
Maximouse
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

They won't revert the entire update, but they should make studios useful for more than just collections of projects again.
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

dertermenter wrote:

They won't change the design back, and the design is neat, but they just need to remove the manager restrictions and maybe the reply limit

That’s a good idea.
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

dertermenter wrote:

They won't change the design back, and the design is neat, but they just need to remove the manager restrictions and maybe the reply limit
No.

I'm on mobile.


Like 90% of the time, and the new design is just way too big.

SimplxSunset wrote:

dertermenter wrote:

They won't change the design back, and the design is neat, but they just need to remove the manager restrictions and maybe the reply limit

That’s a good idea.
At least do this. Nd also decrease zoom for mobile users?
SimplxSunset
Scratcher
100+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Maximouse wrote:

They won't revert the entire update, but they should make studios useful for more than just collections of projects again.

Yeah- I hope so.
AmazingMech2418
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Milkysplash wrote:

Like 90% of the time, and the new design is just way too big.
Like every design issue with Scratch 3.0 ever? XD
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

AmazingMech2418 wrote:

Milkysplash wrote:

Like 90% of the time, and the new design is just way too big.
Like every design issue with Scratch 3.0 ever? XD
Pretty much. I don't have as big a problem with the editor as I do with studios. This just makes it harder to navigate.

Also, yes, the manager problem-


SWC is pretty much, dead? As well as SAC, SRC and other amazing camps. </3
han614698
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

SimplxSunset wrote:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
Yes - it does - I would support you on this one, the only reason for it I can see is to prevent raiding–just don't promote random people.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
Um what?
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
I would agree that it's weird, but it's not “hard to read”.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
a. If change is a problem, you should practice it more: change isn't bad.
b. In what way? From what I can tell, it is the same requirements apply (512KB, 500 x 512 px).
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
This is a glitch. It is supposed to say 100+ but someone messed up some code somewhere. I think that it should not cap it at any number.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
Uh what? Yes - it should fell unnatural - it's only been there for like an hour.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.
I haven't seen anyone leaving Scratch because of it; and if someone is, it's not widespread enough to revert.
Maximouse
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

Isn't the large size on mobile an improvement (making it easier to touch things)?
Milkysplash
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Please change the studios back.

han614698 wrote:

SimplxSunset wrote:

-It doesn’t let managers edit the desc.
Yes - it does - I would support you on this one, the only reason for it I can see is to prevent raiding–just don't promote random people.
-It returned banned managers to the managers list.
Um what?
-On mobile it shoves comments to the side of the screen and it’s hard to read.
I would agree that it's weird, but it's not “hard to read”.
-it changes what people are used to, and keeps cutting out old studio thumbnails.
a. If change is a problem, you should practice it more: change isn't bad.
b. In what way? From what I can tell, it is the same requirements apply (512KB, 500 x 512 px).
-It says that studios have 100 followers, even if they have more.
This is a glitch. It is supposed to say 100+ but someone messed up some code somewhere. I think that it should not cap it at any number.
-It feels unnatural and not a safe space like it used to.
Uh what? Yes - it should fell unnatural - it's only been there for like an hour.
-People are leaving scratch because if it.
I haven't seen anyone leaving Scratch because of it; and if someone is, it's not widespread enough to revert.

for your points:

1/ I can see the reason, however by promoting someone to manager, you're giving them a chance to edit the description and help you out. This is just going back on itself.

2/ Yeah…

3/ I'm on an iPad air, and it's really big. and hard to read. If you have a phone, maybe try getting that out and actually see what it looks like?

4/ It does. I'm used to 2.0 styled studios. It's a lot better, and I could do things easier and ot was a much better fit for mobile.

5/ It feels unnatural to a lot of us, since the deisgn has been tehre for over 8 years - a lot of people will not deal with this well.

6/ What, you think so? The roleplaying community. All gone because of the stupid 3.0 API and 25 reply limit.
Whispershadow
Scratcher
77 posts

Please change the studios back.

support, even if they dont change the format back, they should still at least
- let managers edit the desc.
- make it more usable on mobile
- add back the actual amount of followers, or at least make it say 100+ followers
- add back the invite followers button
- remove the reply limit

Last edited by Whispershadow (July 7, 2021 14:02:01)

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