^^

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104 this is the first project on the Scratch site that is still available.

mtech22 wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104 this is the first project on the Scratch site that is still available.

thanks

and this project is the oldest. It is project 1, and cannot be seen in scratch.
Apparently it isn't the oldest, but I don't have a link to the oldest one if there is a link to it.

Although mtech22's answer is correct, you can read more about the oldest Scratch projects here (with a summary at the bottom):
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/5214524/

Igor-Gaming wrote:

and this project is the oldest. It is project 1, and cannot be seen in scratch.

Although that project's ID is less than 104 (which would make it seem older), the current project in that place was replaced by the ST a few years ago during Scratch 3.0 development.

Igor-Gaming wrote:

and this project is the oldest. It is project 1, and cannot be seen in scratch.

1 is not the true first project, it was overwritten when 3.0 came out despite having 1 as the id

Austinato wrote:

Igor-Gaming wrote:

and this project is the oldest. It is project 1, and cannot be seen in scratch.

Although that project's ID is less than 104 (which would make it seem older), the current project in that place was replaced by the ST a few years ago during Scratch 3.0 development.

Interesting, I will edit my message

The short answer is Weekend, project ID 104. The long answer involves a strange rabbit hole of really old snapshots of Scratch on the Wayback Machine and obscure papers published years before Scratch was made.

ok cool story:

So a few days ago, I was messaged through the airwaves from someone inquiring about a post I made over 6 years ago where I made this claim:

CatsUnited wrote:

However, if you're talking about the first project EVER, there was this project on the ScratchR alpha site on the wayback machine called “Lil' Devil and Angel”. I checked the URL and sure enough, it had an ID of 1. (Don't search it up, it's not on the site)

After remembering what I meant by the “ScratchR alpha site”, I found that the ST were using the scratchr.org domain as a beta testing place for the Scratch community site that went live around March 2007, and there's numerous archives of scratchr.org like this one from January 3rd, 2007.

In that archive, there is a project titled “Lil Devil and Angel” and it has a project ID of 1. The project itself appears to have been lost as the archiver wasn't able to get to it in time before the domain got sold to some random SMS service, but we do have a thumbnail so that's something

I believe scratchr.org is a red herring. While it was from before the public release of the new site, the data made there was almost certainly not transferred over. The user evelyn on scratch.mit.edu joined 6 years after scratchr, so the scratchr user was a test account made on scratchr that had no scratch.mit.edu counterpart. And it may not have been public either; there are few users, all of which are friends of friends of each other, and several days will go by without a single project being shared. Perhaps it was just a really small community, but I find it unlikely.

mtech22 wrote:

Igor-Gaming wrote:

and this project is the oldest. It is project 1, and cannot be seen in scratch.

1 is not the true first project, it was overwritten when 3.0 came out despite having 1 as the id

You can see it on turbowarp.org

fdreerf wrote:

I believe scratchr.org is a red herring. While it was from before the public release of the new site, the data made there was almost certainly not transferred over. …

That was the best explanation I could think of as to why project IDs 1-103 were skipped. If they already had this testing site to test scratchr, would they have needed to do enough testing of similar code on the scratch.mit.edu domain to result in 103 test projects?
Maybe they had to, seeing as andresmh, known for being the first public user is user ID 139. I think scratchr.org is an interesting thing to note nonetheless

I have a way to find the thumbnail of any project even old ones: go to uploads dot scratch dot mit dot edu, then do slash get_image and slash project, finally do the project id and _ and type 480x360 dot png.

-ManMythLegend- wrote:

I have a way to find the thumbnail of any project even old ones: go to uploads dot scratch dot mit dot edu, then do slash get_image and slash project, finally do the project id and _ and type 480x360 dot png.

hey uhh can you please not necropost

-ManMythLegend- wrote:

I have a way to find the thumbnail of any project even old ones: go to uploads dot scratch dot mit dot edu, then do slash get_image and slash project, finally do the project id and _ and type 480x360 dot png.

Different method (also works). This is project 1's thumbnail. For some reason many of the early Scratch project thumbnails were maps of specific areas. I don't know why.

HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:

-ManMythLegend- wrote:

I have a way to find the thumbnail of any project even old ones: go to uploads dot scratch dot mit dot edu, then do slash get_image and slash project, finally do the project id and _ and type 480x360 dot png.

Different method (also works). This is project 1's thumbnail. For some reason many of the early Scratch project thumbnails were maps of specific areas. I don't know why.

It's because there was a Google Maps feature in 2.0 and it was called “Map Scratch” too. You can download it here:
https://github.com/medlans/2.0-Archives/blob/main/Scratch%202.0/Other/MapScratch/MapScratch%20v349.swf

mtech22 wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104 this is the first project on the Scratch site that is still available.

“December 2023”

great_elmo wrote:

mtech22 wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104 this is the first project on the Scratch site that is still available.

“December 2023”

That project was reuploaded numerous times throughout the history of scratch. (Proof http://web.archive.org/web/20130801172243/http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/104/ )

great_elmo wrote:

“December 2023”

I believe it was reshared on that date (for unknown reasons), but it still technically is the oldest project.
ninja'd, again, wow