Onion Skins and Scratch

TheTrillion

This would be very useful for animators, and for game makers as well (examples include cut scenes, running, jumping and much more). I think there should be an option to turn it on and off though, as New Scratchers may be confused why there is a transparent version of the previous costume in a new costume.

Last edited by TheTrillion (Feb. 23, 2022 05:14:23)

-PhoenixAnimates-

Bump

azhua0730

I do not think we need onion skins in scratch since they are probably only for animations.

Do not comment “No support” I'm not forcing you, this is not North Korea, but please do not spam post the same thing over and over.

GoboThePlant

azhua0730 wrote:
I do not think we need onion skins in scratch since they are probably only for animations.

Scratch's utility contains a wide range of subjects, such as animating. It gives that apparent demeanor that Scratch provides not only coding but animating and sorts.

Therefore, I disagree with you.

Yeetoburro1

Jeffalo wrote:
-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
No support, name one other programming language with onion skinning.
scratch isn't just a programming language, it's also for artist, animators and more.

by your logic, name another programming language with a paint editor

does replit count

-EmeraldThunder-

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Jeffalo wrote:
-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
No support, name one other programming language with onion skinning.
scratch isn't just a programming language, it's also for artist, animators and more.

by your logic, name another programming language with a paint editor
does replit count

No.

Wikipedia wrote:
Scratch is a block-based visual programming language and website targeted primarily at children 8-16 as an educational tool for coding. Users of the site can create projects on the web using a block-like interface.

And not.

Wikipedia wrote:
Scratch is a block-based visual programming language, art/animation tool and website targeted primarily at children 8-16 as an educational tool for coding. Users of the site can create projects on the web using a block-like interface.

Reev0102

szymon534534 wrote:
Try this extension. Has onion skinning and more

Please don't name extensions as it goes against this policy.

samq64

Support! I have a browser extension that has oninion skinning and I find it very useful.

Tealseagull

110% support, becuase: I NEED a free program with onion skins!

Yeetoburro1

Tealseagull wrote:
110% support, becuase: I NEED a free program with onion skins!

could use google to find one

-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Jeffalo wrote:
-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
No support, name one other programming language with onion skinning.
scratch isn't just a programming language, it's also for artist, animators and more.

by your logic, name another programming language with a paint editor
does replit count
No.

Why not?

Last edited by Yeetoburro1 (May 16, 2021 18:48:40)

-WoollyBear-

Whew, been a while since I posted on this thread (and since I've visited Scratch in general). Here's what's going to undoubtedly be a relatively long post.

While I've quit Scratch at this point, I'm still passionate about making sure young artists have a place to grow since this is the website where I gained my start.

-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:
Scratch is a block-based visual programming language and website targeted primarily at children 8-16 as an educational tool for coding. Users of the site can create projects on the web using a block-like interface.

And not.

Wikipedia wrote:
Scratch is a block-based visual programming language, art/animation tool and website targeted primarily at children 8-16 as an educational tool for coding. Users of the site can create projects on the web using a block-like interface.

The key word here is targeted. Anything can be targeted at a specific demographic, but that doesn't mean that everyone who uses it falls into that specific box. Scratch is targeted at 8-16 year olds, but that doesn't stop people who are much older or younger from using it. Same applies for animators. In fact, in the Ideas page, there are tutorials for animation and other things that do not fit the mold of game creation, which is what the site is mainly intended for. Another important word here is coding. Animations on Scratch require coding, so they would still apply to the Wikipedia quote. Just a quick note, I would like to add that Wikipedia descriptions are not indicative of anything in this situation really. It didn't come from Scratch, it came from a subjective Wikipedia editor. The quote below, however, was pulled straight from the about section of the site.

Scratch About Page wrote:
With Scratch, you can program your own interactive stories, games, and animations — and share your creations with others in the online community.

Scratch helps young people learn to think creatively, reason systematically, and work collaboratively — essential skills for life in the 21st century.

Scratch is not just for coding, as acknowledged by Scratch Team themselves.

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
could use google to find one

I disagree there. This could apply to so many things In the editor. Text to speech voice? Just use Google to find one. Free to use sprites? Use Google! I can imagine that out of any number of examples I could make of things in Scratch being accessible via other means, at least one would be something that you would argue for.

The truth is that not everyone has access to other programs. Maybe they're using it in class, or they're not allowed to download things or visit non-approved sites. Whatever the case, there's a huge precedent to add animation features based on the huge animation community. And this feature even has use outside of the animation community. Animated sprites are pretty normal for a 2d game. Adding an onion skin feature would make these way easier, just as they would make a MAP part or AMV easier.

azhua0730 wrote:
I do not think we need onion skins in scratch since they are probably only for animations.

Yes, they would only be for animations. Just as the blocks would only be for coding or the record feature would only be for making sounds. Pointing out that a feature would be used to achieve one specific goal is not a valid argument. If the point you're trying to make is that this feature would only be used by people in the animation community, as stated above, this isn't the case. Game developers also would find use in this feature.

Sorry if any of that came across as stern or rude, my only intention was to state my arguments against some ‘no-support’ posts, as well as try and get this thread to kick back up a little since interaction lately has been slightly unconstructive. I fail to really see any reason this shouldn’t be added, so for all my fellow supporters out there, all we can really do is make sure ST sees this suggestion is widely wanted across the community, then hopefully it will be implemented sometime!

-WoollyBear-

bump

-TWILIGHTMISTY-

Support, helpful for animators who can't use or access extensions.

withermicci19

Well, since this post has been brought up from the dead, I might as well add that this is my most requested feature of all time, and it tortures me that this suggestion is from 2013 yet it still hasn't been added. Yes, using named and unnamed extensions you can add onion skinning, but as the extension policy states, some of these extensions may not be fully safe, so for the most part I don't use them. Please ST, at least give a reason why this shouldn't be added, as it would make all animations on the site at least 2x better and easier to make. I get layering with vector is close to onion skinning, but it's not the same. At least reject it, so we can know that you acknowledge its existence.

-0Nebula0-

turbowarp.org

but it would be nice to have an official one

hiPeeps124816

I think this feature is already planned to be added sometime.

Yeetoburro1

-WoollyBear- wrote:
The truth is that not everyone has access to other programs. Maybe they're using it in class, or they're not allowed to download things or visit non-approved sites.

uhhhhhh
Why would a class use scratch, of all things, for graphic design/art/animation?

-EmeraldThunder-

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
-WoollyBear- wrote:
The truth is that not everyone has access to other programs. Maybe they're using it in class, or they're not allowed to download things or visit non-approved sites.
uhhhhhh
Why would a class use scratch, of all things, for graphic design/art/animation?

Exactly, this is the point I am trying to make. If you want graphic design use software designed for art. That will have this feature and more.

-EmeraldThunder-

-PhoenixAnimates- wrote:
-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
No support, name one other programming language with onion skinning.
The thing is, animation is important for anything. WHY in the living (censored by me) would you not support a new feature that could help hundreds of new animators?

Edit: Ninja'd. By 2 people who posted 6 hours ago. ;-;

Because I am against using programming software to create animations.

Last edited by -EmeraldThunder- (May 27, 2021 06:05:49)

Maximouse

-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
-PhoenixAnimates- wrote:
-EmeraldThunder- wrote:
No support, name one other programming language with onion skinning.
The thing is, animation is important for anything. WHY in the living (censored by me) would you not support a new feature that could help hundreds of new animators?

Edit: Ninja'd. By 2 people who posted 6 hours ago. ;-;
Because I am against using programming software to create animations.

Scratch website description wrote:
Scratch is a free programming language and online community where you can create your own interactive stories, games, and animations.

Last edited by Maximouse (May 27, 2021 13:22:16)

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