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AXEstudios
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3.0 taking over

This has been a big mystery ever since it began, and I am here to find an answer:
Why is scratch 2.0 no longer supported?


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Austinato
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3.0 taking over

While the online editor uses Scratch 3.0 now, 2.0 is still supported. I'm pretty sure if anyone has 2.0 projects sitting around that they want to bring onto the site, they should be able to do so (it's reverse compatible.)

With Flash (what 2.0 ran on) going obsolete at the end of December 2020, it was in the ST's best interest to bring the Scratch editor onto HTML, which is what 3.0 does. There also aren't too many differences between the 2.0 and 3.0 editors, so you're not missing out on much.

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2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.

Last edited by Austinato (May 10, 2021 20:04:52)



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D-ScratchNinja
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3.0 taking over

Because it ran on Adobe Flash, which is no longer supported by modern browsers, plus Flash was discontinued in 2021.

Now, Scratch 3 uses HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

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3.0 taking over

Austinato wrote:

2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.
I don't know if Scratch 2 can really be used on new computers because Adobe AIR was also discontinued, I'm guessing for the same reason.

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AXEstudios
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3.0 taking over

Austinato wrote:

While the online editor uses Scratch 3.0 now, 2.0 is still supported. I'm pretty sure if anyone has 2.0 projects sitting around that they want to bring onto the site, they should be able to do so (it's reverse compatible.)

With Flash (what 2.0 ran on) going obsolete at the end of December 2020, it was in the ST's best interest to bring the Scratch editor onto HTML, which is what 3.0 does. There also aren't too many differences between the 2.0 and 3.0 editors, so you're not missing out on much.

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2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.
Thank you, that was very helpful!


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True knowledge and understanding comes from hard work and perseverance. It comes from trial and error, from making mistakes and learning from them. It comes from diving deep into a subject and uncovering its secrets. But tutorials don't teach us any of that. They teach us just enough to complete a task, but not enough to truly understand it.
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AXEstudios
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Emojis can be the worst.


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True knowledge and understanding comes from hard work and perseverance. It comes from trial and error, from making mistakes and learning from them. It comes from diving deep into a subject and uncovering its secrets. But tutorials don't teach us any of that. They teach us just enough to complete a task, but not enough to truly understand it.
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Austinato
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3.0 taking over

D-ScratchNinja wrote:

Austinato wrote:

2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.
I don't know if Scratch 2 can really be used on new computers because Adobe AIR was also discontinued, I'm guessing for the same reason.
Oops, good point. I believe you can download something to have Adobe AIR run. Here's a link to it in case anyone needs it.


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Maximouse
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3.0 taking over

You can download Adobe AIR here.


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AXEstudios
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Austinato wrote:

D-ScratchNinja wrote:

Austinato wrote:

2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.
I don't know if Scratch 2 can really be used on new computers because Adobe AIR was also discontinued, I'm guessing for the same reason.
Oops, good point. I believe you can download something to have Adobe AIR run. Here's a link to it in case anyone needs it.
You trickster.


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True knowledge and understanding comes from hard work and perseverance. It comes from trial and error, from making mistakes and learning from them. It comes from diving deep into a subject and uncovering its secrets. But tutorials don't teach us any of that. They teach us just enough to complete a task, but not enough to truly understand it.
Tutorials are the enemy of true knowledge and understanding. They're a trap, a trap that keeps us from reaching our full potential. They make us dependent on them, instead of teaching us how to find knowledge and understanding on our own.
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Austinato
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3.0 taking over

AXEstudios wrote:

Austinato wrote:

D-ScratchNinja wrote:

Austinato wrote:

2.0 is still in the Scratch Team's heart. You can still download the offline 2.0 (or 1.4) editor and mess around with it here.
I don't know if Scratch 2 can really be used on new computers because Adobe AIR was also discontinued, I'm guessing for the same reason.
Oops, good point. I believe you can download something to have Adobe AIR run. Here's a link to it in case anyone needs it.
You trickster.
What? Something happened with Adobe AIR's support so they passed on support for it to another organization, which Maximouse linked. The article I linked explains that.


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Scratch137
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3.0 taking over

Austinato wrote:

AXEstudios wrote:

Austinato wrote:

Oops, good point. I believe you can download something to have Adobe AIR run. Here's a link to it in case anyone needs it.
You trickster.
What? Something happened with Adobe AIR's support so they passed on support for it to another organization, which Maximouse linked. The article I linked explains that.
You linked to an article explaining what happened with Adobe AIR, but your post reads like you're linking to the program itself, which is a bit misleading.

Last edited by Scratch137 (May 16, 2021 00:04:04)

AXEstudios
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3.0 taking over

Well, this is unusual(bc i'm not the scratch team), but I decided that I figured it out, and we don't need to worry about this any more. So… closing topic!


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True knowledge and understanding comes from hard work and perseverance. It comes from trial and error, from making mistakes and learning from them. It comes from diving deep into a subject and uncovering its secrets. But tutorials don't teach us any of that. They teach us just enough to complete a task, but not enough to truly understand it.
Tutorials are the enemy of true knowledge and understanding. They're a trap, a trap that keeps us from reaching our full potential. They make us dependent on them, instead of teaching us how to find knowledge and understanding on our own.
" - @SteelLurker

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