Content warning for NFE projects (NOT A SUGGESTION FOR 13+ SCRATCH)

MoreThanEnuff

fdreerf wrote:
And what if the project changes in that week? That's just an awful idea.

Fair point. Besides, I was only being theoretical. I still don't get what you mean by “if there was a warning, it would be taken down”. I never asked to loosen the restrictions for projects, at all.

WindowsMeRules2000

MoreThanEnuff wrote:
WindowsMeRules2000 wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
7.2 A 13+ version of the Scratch website or age-restricted content
Scratch is designed for ages 8 to 16, but any content shared on the website must be appropriate for all ages. Dividing the community by making a separate, age-restricted website would not be helpful. Potential restrictions from entering the website (such as a warning, or requiring a parent to answer math equations) would not necessarily stop an underage child from entering the 13+ website.

This suggestion extends to age-restricting anything on Scratch, such as viewing specific projects. As a general rule, content shared on the Scratch website should be appropriate for all ages.
rejected, sorry.
Once again, my suggestion IS NOT asking for that.

MoreThanEnuff wrote:
I'm asking for a warning for projects marked as NFE by the ST.

oh wait i didn't read the title.

IndexErrorException

I find it silly. No support. As someone who played M rated games(fallout games, call of dutys) when I was a young child, I don't think it necessary to add such warning. Scratch is simple just like it has been for the last decade or so.

Sikecon

XxhackerlolxX wrote:
I find it silly. No support. As someone who played M rated games(fallout games, call of dutys) when I was a young child, I don't think it necessary to add such warning. Scratch is simple just like it has been for the last decade or so.

Not every parent allows their children to watch Not-For-Everyone content. Try to put yourself in others' shoes, just because you played M-Rated games, that doesn't mean others did.

Last edited by Sikecon (May 2, 2021 04:55:37)

Steve0Greatness

WindowsMeRules2000 wrote:
oh wait i didn't read the title.

MoreThanEnuff

bump

MoreThanEnuff

bump

MoreThanEnuff

bump. i'd just like to see a response from an st member to see what they think about this

MoreThanEnuff

bump

eikh2

Better than having to create your own NFE warning AND lets scratchers know that it is NFE.
Support.

Legnazo

No support. There's really no beneficial purpose if this feature were to be added. A warning would not stop an underage user from viewing a project marked as NFE - kids could just click past the warning.

This is rejected too:

Za-Chary wrote:
7.2 A 13+ version of the Scratch website or age-restricted content
Scratch is designed for ages 8 to 16, but any content shared on the website must be appropriate for all ages. Dividing the community by making a separate, age-restricted website would not be helpful. Potential restrictions from entering the website (such as a warning, or requiring a parent to answer math equations) would not necessarily stop an underage child from entering the 13+ website.

This suggestion extends to age-restricting anything on Scratch, such as viewing specific projects. As a general rule, content shared on the Scratch website should be appropriate for all ages.

Last edited by Legnazo (May 7, 2021 00:51:05)

eikh2

This is rejected too:

Za-Chary wrote:
7.2 A 13+ version of the Scratch website or age-restricted content
Scratch is designed for ages 8 to 16, but any content shared on the website must be appropriate for all ages. Dividing the community by making a separate, age-restricted website would not be helpful. Potential restrictions from entering the website (such as a warning, or requiring a parent to answer math equations) would not necessarily stop an underage child from entering the 13+ website.

This suggestion extends to age-restricting anything on Scratch, such as viewing specific projects. As a general rule, content shared on the Scratch website should be appropriate for all ages.

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PaddlerGames

No support. Sometimes the ST doesn't want everyone to know why a project got marked NFE in the first place.

Prime689

PaddlerGames wrote:
No support. Sometimes the ST doesn't want everyone to know why a project got marked NFE in the first place.

Yes, and this is equivalent to naming and shaming.

eikh2

mump

MoreThanEnuff

Legnazo wrote:
No support. There's really no beneficial purpose if this feature were to be added. A warning would not stop an underage user from viewing a project marked as NFE - kids could just click past the warning.

This is rejected too:
Za-Chary wrote:
7.2 A 13+ version of the Scratch website or age-restricted content
Scratch is designed for ages 8 to 16, but any content shared on the website must be appropriate for all ages. Dividing the community by making a separate, age-restricted website would not be helpful. Potential restrictions from entering the website (such as a warning, or requiring a parent to answer math equations) would not necessarily stop an underage child from entering the 13+ website.

This suggestion extends to age-restricting anything on Scratch, such as viewing specific projects. As a general rule, content shared on the Scratch website should be appropriate for all ages.

Did you read even read the title of my post?

Legnazo

MoreThanEnuff wrote:
Did you read even read the title of my post?

Of course, I wouldn't post on a topic without reading the title. The point I'm trying to get across is that a warning would not necessarily stop a child from getting into projects highly inappropriate for their age.

Last edited by Legnazo (May 8, 2021 18:12:21)

sealifefriend

Nvm, I didn't read the post directly above this

Last edited by sealifefriend (May 8, 2021 23:51:17)

Za-Chary

I can see why this restriction may pose problems. Although it's not exactly an “age restriction” as you say, it just highlights/suggests that a project is “inappropriate” somehow. If a project is inappropriate, then we unshare it. If it's not inappropriate, then we leave it up, and I don't think we need to scare people into thinking that not everything on Scratch is appropriate.

It could also lead to some users intentionally pushing the boundaries and including warnings on their own projects, thinking that it's okay to make inappropriate projects as long as they include a warning on it.

fdreerf wrote:
NFE projects are still projects that follow the community guidelines, it's just that the Scratch Team would prefer for less people to see it, so there's no need for a warning. If there was, the project would be taken down.

Robby_Blue wrote:
im pretty sure that the nfe system is meant as a private rating system for the st that the average user shouldnt know about.
source: multiple people have made projects showing how to see if a project is nfe or not and all of them have been taken down by the st.

openly saying that a project is nfe kinda defeats the purpose of that

PaddlerGames wrote:
No support. Sometimes the ST doesn't want everyone to know why a project got marked NFE in the first place.

All of these are also pretty good points — and are correct. Not all projects which are marked NFE are “inappropriate.” It's meant to be a silent tag, anyway. So I don't think it's worth publicizing that such a feature exists.

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