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TheTrillion
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

You cannot do anything with these points. It would motivate very little people. People would still do bad stuff because it is a number and nothing can happen with them, and people would brag about them and upset Scratchers with less points.

Last edited by TheTrillion (Feb. 23, 2022 05:03:02)

TheGlassPenguin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

I don't support this.
People could use their “honor points” to prove that they are “better” than someone else. My school has a system similar to the one you're suggesting, and there is a problem with bullying using the “honor points” system.
Also, what would you use the points for? Using them as currency for Scratch features is rejected. Just having them for visual purposes would make what I said earlier more likely to happen.

Last edited by TheGlassPenguin (April 30, 2021 15:14:52)

gosoccerboy5
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Followers already generate quite a bit of “fame hungriness”, but this just seems like a great way to fester even more competition.
builderluke
Scratcher
100+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

ah well, it was fun designing the little mock up
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

I like this idea! What if I suggest this:

Points are hidden from the community and you, but are shown to the scratch team when looking through reports, and bans. The Honor system (I'm american), would be shown from both users, the reportee and the reporter, to see if the report is legit or not. Maybe, they could even take out the new scratcher status, and make it so that you need 750 points (so you need 250 additional points) to become a scratcher. Of course, your points would b hidden, so it's impossible to do something like exploiting the system unless you retrieve the API. Even better, now alternate accounts won't have to wait as long to become a scratcher.

I thought of these other ways to gain/loose points:

+ share appropriate projects (when another scratcher (has to be a sperate IP) views a project, a box pops up 5 minutes later, or before they close the tab, and asks “Is this project abiding by the community guidelines?” and has a yes, and a no. The reason the No doesn't send a report is that then it would be too easy to hack the system. Also, once one person answers the question, it goes away.)

- getting repeatedly muted (adds -1 every time the users mute multiplies.

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-0Nebula0-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
EeveeLegends
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

No support, this would create competition and drama.
Ankit_Anmol
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

I like this idea! What if I suggest this:

Points are hidden from the community and you, but are shown to the scratch team when looking through reports, and bans. The Honor system (I'm american), would be shown from both users, the reportee and the reporter, to see if the report is legit or not. Maybe, they could even take out the new scratcher status, and make it so that you need 750 points (so you need 250 additional points) to become a scratcher. Of course, your points would b hidden, so it's impossible to do something like exploiting the system unless you retrieve the API. Even better, now alternate accounts won't have to wait as long to become a scratcher.

I thought of these other ways to gain/loose points:

+ share appropriate projects (when another scratcher (has to be a sperate IP) views a project, a box pops up 5 minutes later, or before they close the tab, and asks “Is this project abiding by the community guidelines?” and has a yes, and a no. The reason the No doesn't send a report is that then it would be too easy to hack the system. Also, once one person answers the question, it goes away.)

- getting repeatedly muted (adds -1 every time the users mute multiplies.

Uh… I don't quite agree with the popup. But the hidden features is good
Ankit_Anmol
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

pls some ST come and decide
boncuk18
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

I semi-support this, it will be great for adding points, But this should not expose new scratchers who lost some points xD.
lm1996
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

No support, it would cause a swiftly downwards spiral of jealousy and bragging to occur.
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Ankit_Anmol wrote:

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

I like this idea! What if I suggest this:

Points are hidden from the community and you, but are shown to the scratch team when looking through reports, and bans. The Honor system (I'm american), would be shown from both users, the reportee and the reporter, to see if the report is legit or not. Maybe, they could even take out the new scratcher status, and make it so that you need 750 points (so you need 250 additional points) to become a scratcher. Of course, your points would b hidden, so it's impossible to do something like exploiting the system unless you retrieve the API. Even better, now alternate accounts won't have to wait as long to become a scratcher.

I thought of these other ways to gain/loose points:

+ share appropriate projects (when another scratcher (has to be a sperate IP) views a project, a box pops up 5 minutes later, or before they close the tab, and asks “Is this project abiding by the community guidelines?” and has a yes, and a no. The reason the No doesn't send a report is that then it would be too easy to hack the system. Also, once one person answers the question, it goes away.)

- getting repeatedly muted (adds -1 every time the users mute multiplies.

Uh… I don't quite agree with the popup. But the hidden features is good
okay, you don't have to include the popup, but can you like edit the post to include the other stuff?
-0Nebula0-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
^
Futurebot5
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

-0Nebula0- wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
^
He didn’t suggest using them to purchase things.
-0Nebula0-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Futurebot5 wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
^
He didn’t suggest using them to purchase things.
i'm referring to scratch achievements
warriorcats2155
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Ankit_Anmol wrote:

Outer extensions? (You know it… don't know? Here -100,000(some mercy this time lol)

That seems overkill for just using a dark mode extension that makes Scratch dark mode.

(Scenario)

Person: Ugh! This light mode is hurting my eyes! Wait a moment! uses a dark mode extension

ST: ok you used an outer extension so…. -100,000

Person: Wakes up to find this:

-random number from 1,000 to 100,000

Person: SO UNFAIR!
Ankit_Anmol
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

warriorcats2155 wrote:

Ankit_Anmol wrote:

Outer extensions? (You know it… don't know? Here -100,000(some mercy this time lol)

That seems overkill for just using a dark mode extension that makes Scratch dark mode.

(Scenario)

Person: Ugh! This light mode is hurting my eyes! Wait a moment! uses a dark mode extension

ST: ok you used an outer extension so…. -100,000

Person: Wakes up to find this:

-random number from 1,000 to 100,000

Person: SO UNFAIR!
NOOO I mean promoting that extension like:

EVERYONE WAKE UP BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHEN THE WORLD ENDS!! TIRED OF LIGHT MODE? USE THE kwnmscnkscniscjoejowdjosfjowdo EXTENSION!! IT KEEPS YOU PAGE BLACK! PURE BLACK
Ankit_Anmol
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Futurebot5 wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
^
He didn’t suggest using them to purchase things.
i'm referring to scratch achievements
what achievement? It will be hidden if ST wanna implement that way…..
Codingfairy07
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

Ankit_Anmol wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Futurebot5 wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

-0Nebula0- wrote:

Rejected

Holy Book of TOLORS Chapter 8 verse 7 wrote:

Digital currency or Scratch achievements
Some form of digital currency which allows you to “buy” Scratch features (with real or fake money) would not really benefit the educational value of Scratch; after all, there is not really anything that you can buy. While there could be features that are only unlockable via digital currency, this does not really contribute to Scratch's purpose of being a programming language available for everyone. However, you can make digital currency in your own projects, if you like. A very good detailed analysis for why digital currency should not be on Scratch can be found on this post.
^
He didn’t suggest using them to purchase things.
i'm referring to scratch achievements
what achievement? It will be hidden if ST wanna implement that way…..
people could still brag about it. As a result, no support!
Codingfairy07
Scratcher
500+ posts

Honesty/Honour system

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