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dhfbei8987
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Automatic project copy detector

No support, it could misinterpret most context.

BUMP

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46009361
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Automatic project copy detector

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

kccuber wrote:

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

Copied projects are not a big issue. To loop over millions of projects to catch copycats? That’s a ridiculous sacrifice for a tiny payoff.
loop over the project that is uplaoded to scratch from a sb3 not EVERY SINGLE FILE!

You're still overestimating how fast a computer is. That's still going to make uploading projects to scratch from sb3 extremely slow, taking hours or even days. Copycats aren't even a big problem, regardless. The report button exists for a reason.
What if a copied project gets on the front page? No one noticed it was a copy and used the Report button before then (this happened to WO997's 3D plane). But, eventually, the copy got taken down and the original project went popular.
awesome_guy6856
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Automatic project copy detector

46009361 wrote:

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

kccuber wrote:

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

Copied projects are not a big issue. To loop over millions of projects to catch copycats? That’s a ridiculous sacrifice for a tiny payoff.
loop over the project that is uplaoded to scratch from a sb3 not EVERY SINGLE FILE!

You're still overestimating how fast a computer is. That's still going to make uploading projects to scratch from sb3 extremely slow, taking hours or even days. Copycats aren't even a big problem, regardless. The report button exists for a reason.
What if a copied project gets on the front page? No one noticed it was a copy and used the Report button before then (this happened to WO997's 3D plane). But, eventually, the copy got taken down and the original project went popular.
That definitely sucks for WO997. But a copied project getting on the front page, let alone more popular than the original, is still pretty rare. It's not worth sacrificing instant sharing to catch like 5 people trying to do this. As for WO997, this seems like an issue more with the reporting system than anything else.
46009361
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Automatic project copy detector

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

46009361 wrote:

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

kccuber wrote:

awesome_guy6856 wrote:

Copied projects are not a big issue. To loop over millions of projects to catch copycats? That’s a ridiculous sacrifice for a tiny payoff.
loop over the project that is uplaoded to scratch from a sb3 not EVERY SINGLE FILE!

You're still overestimating how fast a computer is. That's still going to make uploading projects to scratch from sb3 extremely slow, taking hours or even days. Copycats aren't even a big problem, regardless. The report button exists for a reason.
What if a copied project gets on the front page? No one noticed it was a copy and used the Report button before then (this happened to WO997's 3D plane). But, eventually, the copy got taken down and the original project went popular.
That definitely sucks for WO997. But a copied project getting on the front page, let alone more popular than the original, is still pretty rare. It's not worth sacrificing instant sharing to catch like 5 people trying to do this. As for WO997, this seems like an issue more with the reporting system than anything else.
However, WO997 got banned for being disrespectful to the person who copied the project. Of course, the copier also got banned as well. A while later, in 2020, LlamaGodLuke curated (the original copy was featured, not curated) a project that (albeit not an exact copy due to a different thumbnail sprite) didn't give credit to WO997 for the plane and the 3D engine and kept claiming it was completely original in a deleted comment (there was even a comment by a friend saying that they watched them make the entire project on their computer and confirming it was original when it wasn't, which might've just been an alternate account of the creator or someone paid to spread misinformation). People still copy projects, claim they made everything, and get popular?
46009361
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Automatic project copy detector

Bump.
fdreerf
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Automatic project copy detector

46009361 wrote:

Bump.
Please address some of the criticisms of your suggestions like how it would take weeks to go through every shared project, making your suggestion pretty much impossible to make.
46009361
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Automatic project copy detector

46009361 wrote:

-snip-
However, WO997 got banned for being disrespectful to the person who copied the project. Of course, the copier also got banned as well. A while later, in 2020, LlamaGodLuke curated (the original copy was featured, not curated) a project that (albeit not an exact copy due to a different thumbnail sprite) didn't give credit to WO997 for the plane and the 3D engine and kept claiming it was completely original in a deleted comment (there was even a comment by a friend saying that they watched them make the entire project on their computer and confirming it was original when it wasn't, which might've just been an alternate account of the creator or someone paid to spread misinformation). People still copy projects, claim they made everything, and get popular?
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Automatic project copy detector

46009361 wrote:

46009361 wrote:

-snip-
However, WO997 got banned for being disrespectful to the person who copied the project. Of course, the copier also got banned as well. A while later, in 2020, LlamaGodLuke curated (the original copy was featured, not curated) a project that (albeit not an exact copy due to a different thumbnail sprite) didn't give credit to WO997 for the plane and the 3D engine and kept claiming it was completely original in a deleted comment (there was even a comment by a friend saying that they watched them make the entire project on their computer and confirming it was original when it wasn't, which might've just been an alternate account of the creator or someone paid to spread misinformation). People still copy projects, claim they made everything, and get popular?
What is the point of this reposting this quote?
46009361
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Automatic project copy detector

fdreerf wrote:

46009361 wrote:

46009361 wrote:

-snip-
However, WO997 got banned for being disrespectful to the person who copied the project. Of course, the copier also got banned as well. A while later, in 2020, LlamaGodLuke curated (the original copy was featured, not curated) a project that (albeit not an exact copy due to a different thumbnail sprite) didn't give credit to WO997 for the plane and the 3D engine and kept claiming it was completely original in a deleted comment (there was even a comment by a friend saying that they watched them make the entire project on their computer and confirming it was original when it wasn't, which might've just been an alternate account of the creator or someone paid to spread misinformation). People still copy projects, claim they made everything, and get popular?
What is the point of this reposting this quote?
I was replying to awesome_guy6856, but I don't know if they're following the discussion topic.

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