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ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

Hi AT Scratchers,

I was looking at the wikipedia page for the “Hello world” program and I found a hello world program on a PSP. Apparently there's this thing that people do called “homebrewing” - hacking a program onto something that the creators didn't originally intend it to run. I am interested in this now. I tried to find a PSP real cheap so I could do it on there, but they seem to be at least $100. Are there any cheap systems that I could program on (preferably a handheld thing)?

Thanks,
ChocolatePi
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
DigiTechs
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Programming for other systems

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

DigiTechs wrote:

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
I do not have an XBOX, so that's good
bashcommando
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Programming for other systems

ChocolatePi wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
I do not have an XBOX, so that's good
You can build your own computer out of parts you got from Radio-shack… Or you could just order a microcomputer for around $30 off tigerdirect.com and get a version of Linux for free off the internet(If your new to Linux I would recommend something like Linux Mint). They have tons of modding utilities all for free(and virus-free too)!
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

ChocolatePi wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
Yes, you will be able to use your wii as normal, however there's always the risk of bricking your device in the process, so keep that in mind. The way it works, is it installs a single custom channel on your wii, which enabless you to run custom apps from an SD card or thumb drive.

I've used a process called letterbomb, and have had success 3/3 times.
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

bashcommando wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
I do not have an XBOX, so that's good
You can build your own computer out of parts you got from Radio-shack…
Wait, wut?
DigiTechs
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
Yes, you will be able to use your wii as normal, however there's always the risk of bricking your device in the process, so keep that in mind. The way it works, is it installs a single custom channel on your wii, which enabless you to run custom apps from an SD card or thumb drive.

I've used a process called letterbomb, and have had success 3/3 times.

I nearly bricked my XBOX once. Luckily they use IDE drives so I got another one and hotswapped the drives - then I got into it and replaced a broken XBE.
novice27b
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

bashcommando wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
I do not have an XBOX, so that's good
You can build your own computer out of parts you got from Radio-shack…
Wait, wut?
Yep. I'm in the early stages of building a computer based on the 6502 processor.
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

DigiTechs wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
Yes, you will be able to use your wii as normal, however there's always the risk of bricking your device in the process, so keep that in mind. The way it works, is it installs a single custom channel on your wii, which enabless you to run custom apps from an SD card or thumb drive.

I've used a process called letterbomb, and have had success 3/3 times.

I nearly bricked my XBOX once. Luckily they use IDE drives so I got another one and hotswapped the drives - then I got into it and replaced a broken XBE.
I've never managed to hard brick anything yet. There's always that sinking feeling when you soft brick a device, and have no idea how to fix it.
DigiTechs
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
Yes, you will be able to use your wii as normal, however there's always the risk of bricking your device in the process, so keep that in mind. The way it works, is it installs a single custom channel on your wii, which enabless you to run custom apps from an SD card or thumb drive.

I've used a process called letterbomb, and have had success 3/3 times.

I nearly bricked my XBOX once. Luckily they use IDE drives so I got another one and hotswapped the drives - then I got into it and replaced a broken XBE.
I've never managed to hard brick anything yet. There's always that sinking feeling when you soft brick a device, and have no idea how to fix it.
Yeah. That's pretty much the feeling I had.

Hard bricking though? That's pretty easy to do if you have a hammer.
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

DigiTechs wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

You can home brew a wii. I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about programming for it yourself, but I haven't looked into it for several years. I have successfully home brewed it though. I've also heard that you can home brew a psx and ps2. Also, by your definition, jailbreaking or rooting a phone would be considered homebrewing, so there's that. You can also homebrew an original Xbox and get it to run xbmc. I've also seen someone run linux on some of these consoles, so that could be an option…

Thanks! I have a Wii, but I don't want to mess it up. Would I still be able to do other stuff on it?
Yes, you will be able to use your wii as normal, however there's always the risk of bricking your device in the process, so keep that in mind. The way it works, is it installs a single custom channel on your wii, which enabless you to run custom apps from an SD card or thumb drive.

I've used a process called letterbomb, and have had success 3/3 times.

I nearly bricked my XBOX once. Luckily they use IDE drives so I got another one and hotswapped the drives - then I got into it and replaced a broken XBE.
I've never managed to hard brick anything yet. There's always that sinking feeling when you soft brick a device, and have no idea how to fix it.
Yeah. That's pretty much the feeling I had.

Hard bricking though? That's pretty easy to do if you have a hammer.
Baha, true dat.
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

This guy is making “homebrew channel” for 3DS, but he hasn't released it yet. http://smealum.net/
elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

ChocolatePi wrote:

This guy is making “homebrew channel” for 3DS, but he hasn't released it yet. http://smealum.net/
I believe there are already ways of homebrewing a 3DS. I've homebrewed my original ds. It's pretty easy with an R4 card.
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

This guy is making “homebrew channel” for 3DS, but he hasn't released it yet. http://smealum.net/
I believe there are already ways of homebrewing a 3DS. I've homebrewed my original ds. It's pretty easy with an R4 card.
Oh ok. I have a 3ds, and I want to write stufd for it, at least a “hello world” program.
MegaApuTurkUltra
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Programming for other systems

novice27b wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

bashcommando wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

DigiTechs wrote:

If you have an XBOX, I wouldn't homebrew it unless you have the binaries (VS2006, XDK, etc) - which are pretty hard to find working installs for.
I do not have an XBOX, so that's good
You can build your own computer out of parts you got from Radio-shack…
Wait, wut?
Yep. I'm in the early stages of building a computer based on the 6502 processor.
Or just get a raspberry pi. US$35; 800mHz ARM CPU; 512MB RAM; Ethernet controller, 2 USB ports, 26 GPIO pins; runs a port of Debian; size of a credit card. I would say it's pretty good…
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

elfin8er wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

This guy is making “homebrew channel” for 3DS, but he hasn't released it yet. http://smealum.net/
I believe there are already ways of homebrewing a 3DS. I've homebrewed my original ds. It's pretty easy with an R4 card.
How do you program for a 3ds? I looked around, but I can't find anything. It's the only system I have other than the computer that I want to program on XD

Last edited by ChocolatePi (Oct. 23, 2014 21:16:47)

elfin8er
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Programming for other systems

HERE you go. The process is pretty much the same as when I did it, but even so, I have no tried this guide or anything, so I can't confirm if it works. You should be fine though.
ChocolatePi
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Programming for other systems

Thanks!

My to-do list (and questions):

- Find out from you what language to program in for 3DS
- Make a hello world program
- Get a cheap really old computer and find out how to use it (like to get an operating system on it)
- See where I go from there…

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