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- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
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Revert to the Old Muting System
Congratulations, Scratch Team! You figured out how to make the muting system worse! XD
Literally, now, if you comment something that won't send because the filter doesn't like it, you get muted! False mutes were always a thing, but now you can get muted for literally talking about the subset of a protein, because it thinks it's “unmoderated chat”! LOL! Like I literally did that and I just got muted for 20 minutes. Like WHAT?!
Oh, and also, for saying the name of an unmoderated chat site, even accidentally, you get muted? I hate to break it to you, but nowhere in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines does it say you can't reference an unmoderated chat site. Like the most well-known one is even a word that was used in the “I Have A Dream” speech! Someone might not even try to refer to it, and there's nothing against it anyways! The Community Guidelines say no links to unmoderated chat. So, you can't post the URL, but you should be able to say the name. XD
Like do you really think that this will make people happier about the muting system when it just increases false mutings? Like come on! The old one was still terrible, but not as bad as this!
Oh, and the filter is now more sensitive too! Literally, one person got muted for adding “>” to an emoticon for the “Ninjas Assemble” studio thing. Like WHAT?! Seriously, this is ridiculous…
So, basically, please revert to the old system, and please reform it to be better if you can, but don't automatically mute based on the filter, and please think about reducing some of the restrictions which there is nothing against in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines.
Literally, now, if you comment something that won't send because the filter doesn't like it, you get muted! False mutes were always a thing, but now you can get muted for literally talking about the subset of a protein, because it thinks it's “unmoderated chat”! LOL! Like I literally did that and I just got muted for 20 minutes. Like WHAT?!
Oh, and also, for saying the name of an unmoderated chat site, even accidentally, you get muted? I hate to break it to you, but nowhere in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines does it say you can't reference an unmoderated chat site. Like the most well-known one is even a word that was used in the “I Have A Dream” speech! Someone might not even try to refer to it, and there's nothing against it anyways! The Community Guidelines say no links to unmoderated chat. So, you can't post the URL, but you should be able to say the name. XD
Like do you really think that this will make people happier about the muting system when it just increases false mutings? Like come on! The old one was still terrible, but not as bad as this!
Oh, and the filter is now more sensitive too! Literally, one person got muted for adding “>” to an emoticon for the “Ninjas Assemble” studio thing. Like WHAT?! Seriously, this is ridiculous…
So, basically, please revert to the old system, and please reform it to be better if you can, but don't automatically mute based on the filter, and please think about reducing some of the restrictions which there is nothing against in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines.
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- Steve0Greatness
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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ST might have a huge list of things that the filter bot filters.
Also the part of the CGs that say:
Also the part of the CGs that say:
Keep personal info private.basically seems to have been extended to everything relating to moderated chat sites(like twitter handles(?(sorry, I don't use twitter, so I don't know what they're called)), the simple mention of Discord, and everything else like that).
For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.
Last edited by Steve0Greatness (March 24, 2021 21:04:27)
/hj is the worst tone indicator. It's confusing and ambiguous. I hate it. The point of tone indicators is to indicate tone, or the way that a piece of text should be read, but what does “half joking” mean? Do you just wake up in the morning and think “wow, I really have something I want to talk about seriously but also kinda not, IDK you decide.” It's useless. I hate it. It just provokes a deep rooted anger within me whenever I see it. People just comment /hj as if it makes any sense. It doesn't. Oh wow, it's a tone indicator that's has a relative meaning, how useful, I'll use it in every comment I post. NO. STOP IT. You're a tone indicator, you have only one job, and yet you sit there doing nothing apart angering me.
/srs
^^^ (there's more below)
This one is useful because it tells you that this signature is fully 100% serious. (/srs) Who would've thought that tone indicators needed to tell you something about the piece of text they're attached to? /s
I'm serious, I'm not even going to put multiple (/hj)s a the end of my signature as to mock the previous paragraph for not getting the point of something(like previous version of my signature). /srs
- Ihatr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
I don't think the old muting system should be removed, but it needs to be drastically changed. For one, each day you should have three “passes” where you don't get muted even if a bad word is there. You can then actually look at what's wrong. If it gets continuously posted, then it can initiate the current system.
- Prime689
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
Oh woohoo being ironic
Yeah, it's a procedure for the best. Oh, and also, for saying the name of an unmoderated chat site, even accidentally, you get muted?
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reference an unmoderated chat site.The ToU holds all of the I hate to break it to you, but nowhere in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines does it say you can't legal agreements for the website.
There is likely a bad word/reference that you need to dig upon. Oh, and the filter is now more sensitive too! Literally, one person got muted for adding “>” to an emoticon for the “Ninjas Assemble” studio thing. Like WHAT?! Seriously, this is ridiculous…
Restrictions for what? Do you say that you don't want restrictions? So, basically, please revert to the old system, and please reform it to be better if you can, but don't automatically mute based on the filter, and please think about reducing some of the restrictions which there is nothing against in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines.
Try to post “discord” and another link. The Community Guidelines say no links to unmoderated chat. So, you can't post the URL, but you should be able to say the name. XD
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- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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They do have a list, and they do say that, but it says links. Simply mentioning something is not included in there. It could be someone another person knows in real life that they're just trying to refer to a conversation or something, or even just using the word! Because it is an actual word. And now, someone gets muted for saying it! ST might have a huge list of things that the filter bot filters.
Also the part of the CGs that say:Keep personal info private.basically seems to have been extended to everything relating to moderated chat sites(like twitter handles(?(sorry, I don't use twitter, so I don't know what they're called)), the simple mention of Discord, and everything else like that).
For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
Well, what if someone has a comment that the filter accidentally thinks is bad, but really is fine and they are just trying to figure out what the filter doesn't like about it? In my opinion, muting should be manually done based on information reported to the ST about what a person was trying to say. I don't think the old muting system should be removed, but it needs to be drastically changed. For one, each day you should have three “passes” where you don't get muted even if a bad word is there. You can then actually look at what's wrong. If it gets continuously posted, then it can initiate the current system.
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- Steve0Greatness
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
This kinda reminds me of the fact that you can't mention browser extensions on the site, but they don't mention anything about them anywhere in the CGs.Well, what if someone has a comment that the filter accidentally thinks is bad, but really is fine and they are just trying to figure out what the filter doesn't like about it? In my opinion, muting should be manually done based on information reported to the ST about what a person was trying to say. I don't think the old muting system should be removed, but it needs to be drastically changed. For one, each day you should have three “passes” where you don't get muted even if a bad word is there. You can then actually look at what's wrong. If it gets continuously posted, then it can initiate the current system.
But, mentions to unmoded sites are technically still against the CGs:
I'd like to draw your attention to that part. Keep personal info private.
For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.
/hj is the worst tone indicator. It's confusing and ambiguous. I hate it. The point of tone indicators is to indicate tone, or the way that a piece of text should be read, but what does “half joking” mean? Do you just wake up in the morning and think “wow, I really have something I want to talk about seriously but also kinda not, IDK you decide.” It's useless. I hate it. It just provokes a deep rooted anger within me whenever I see it. People just comment /hj as if it makes any sense. It doesn't. Oh wow, it's a tone indicator that's has a relative meaning, how useful, I'll use it in every comment I post. NO. STOP IT. You're a tone indicator, you have only one job, and yet you sit there doing nothing apart angering me.
/srs
^^^ (there's more below)
This one is useful because it tells you that this signature is fully 100% serious. (/srs) Who would've thought that tone indicators needed to tell you something about the piece of text they're attached to? /s
I'm serious, I'm not even going to put multiple (/hj)s a the end of my signature as to mock the previous paragraph for not getting the point of something(like previous version of my signature). /srs
- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
If someone accidentally says something, not knowing it's an unmoderated chat name, the person shouldn't get muted. It's all in context. And also, saying “>XD” is not bad. LOL! And there should be restrictions, but in no way is saying “amino acid” bad, yet Scratch still censors it. Oh woohoo being ironicYeah, it's a procedure for the best. Oh, and also, for saying the name of an unmoderated chat site, even accidentally, you get muted?
.reference an unmoderated chat site.The ToU holds all of the I hate to break it to you, but nowhere in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines does it say you can't legal agreements for the website.There is likely a bad word/reference that you need to dig upon. Oh, and the filter is now more sensitive too! Literally, one person got muted for adding “>” to an emoticon for the “Ninjas Assemble” studio thing. Like WHAT?! Seriously, this is ridiculous…Restrictions for what? Do you say that you don't want restrictions? So, basically, please revert to the old system, and please reform it to be better if you can, but don't automatically mute based on the filter, and please think about reducing some of the restrictions which there is nothing against in the Terms of Use or the Community Guidelines.Try to post “discord” and another link. The Community Guidelines say no links to unmoderated chat. So, you can't post the URL, but you should be able to say the name. XD
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Revert to the Old Muting System
Yeah, I can see that, but the ST should at least say that. They said about the extensions since they can contain malware. Saying the name of a website which is also a normal word is not going to give malware and can't provide a method of unmoderated chat. Only saying your username or “tag” or providing a direct link to a server can do that with this specific website we are referring to.This kinda reminds me of the fact that you can't mention browser extensions on the site, but they don't mention anything about them anywhere in the CGs.Well, what if someone has a comment that the filter accidentally thinks is bad, but really is fine and they are just trying to figure out what the filter doesn't like about it? In my opinion, muting should be manually done based on information reported to the ST about what a person was trying to say. I don't think the old muting system should be removed, but it needs to be drastically changed. For one, each day you should have three “passes” where you don't get muted even if a bad word is there. You can then actually look at what's wrong. If it gets continuously posted, then it can initiate the current system.
But, mentions to unmoded sites are technically still against the CGs:I'd like to draw your attention to that part. Keep personal info private.
For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- Raihan142857
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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I've literally only been using scratch for a couple of days with this system and got muted 6 times. And only once was the mute justified. -snip-.
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- AmazingMech2418
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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Exactly! That's how much worse the new system is. LOL!I've literally only been using scratch for a couple of days with this system and got muted 6 times. And only once was the mute justified. -snip-.
I'm a programmer, ethical hacker, and space nerd!
Last edited by Neil Armstrong (July 20, 1969 20:17:00)
sam
- DipLeChip
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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the new mute system is trash and a failure no one likes it
stop fuming and start loving :p
- -SnoQueen-
- Scratcher
500+ posts
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sdfsdl woah :00 xD honestly, maybe like instead of making it a day like idk,, an hour? 30 minutes? xDD idk ok
kadklasd oo u mentioned me (not really) but i did get muted for that- xD
kadklasd oo u mentioned me (not really) but i did get muted for that- xD
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- Maximouse
- Scratcher
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It shouldn't be reverted, but the bad word detector has soo many false positives that one shouldn't be muted every time they say a bad word.
- the2000
- Scratcher
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Please be constructive and explain why. I support.
I remember sending some of my friends a screenshot of the initial announcement for the new filtering system with a caption like “I have a gut feeling that people will quickly grow to hate this update and I don't know why.” I think my gut needs a promotion lol
- lm1996
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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I was RPing and accidentally said Ashscreen leapt and it didn't mute me, however, I support it anyways if we add this:
I don't think the old muting system should be removed, but it needs to be drastically changed. For one, each day you should have three “passes” where you don't get muted even if a bad word is there. You can then actually look at what's wrong. If it gets continuously posted, then it can initiate the current system.
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- han614698
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
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I can't find the quote, but I know Harakou made a post saying that the muting systems has not changed.
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- 9cjames1
- Scratcher
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I don't believe it should be reverted but not every * single time it mutes you for saying something incorrectly.
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