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46009361
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

-snip- I also think the national suicide prevention hotline should not be censored by the phone number censor. Sorry if its off-topic.
It would probably be better to make a new suggestion about improvements to the phone number censor.

Paddle2See wrote:

-snip- followed by a block if the issue continues.
I understand that you generally wait for multiple violations of the Terms of Use in case the first one was an accident and not intentional. However, you merely specifying “if the issue continues” isn't the best approach because the user may not have read their messages and alerts yet (i.e. closing the alert by clicking the x button). Roblox, however, appears to have a slightly better approach (they don't link any resources anymore, though).
CoolLionMan
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

kChiaEC19 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

-snip- I also think the national suicide prevention hotline should not be censored by the phone number censor. Sorry if its off-topic.
It would probably be better to make a new suggestion about improvements to the phone number censor.

Paddle2See wrote:

-snip- followed by a block if the issue continues.
I understand that you generally wait for multiple violations of the Terms of Use in case the first one was an accident and not intentional. However, you merely specifying “if the issue continues” isn't the best approach because the user may not have read their messages and alerts yet (i.e. closing the alert by clicking the x button). Roblox, however, appears to have a slightly better approach (they don't link any resources anymore, though).
PLEASE don't necropost
GoogleInScratch
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

CoolLionMan wrote:

kChiaEC19 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

-snip- I also think the national suicide prevention hotline should not be censored by the phone number censor. Sorry if its off-topic.
It would probably be better to make a new suggestion about improvements to the phone number censor.

Paddle2See wrote:

-snip- followed by a block if the issue continues.
I understand that you generally wait for multiple violations of the Terms of Use in case the first one was an accident and not intentional. However, you merely specifying “if the issue continues” isn't the best approach because the user may not have read their messages and alerts yet (i.e. closing the alert by clicking the x button). Roblox, however, appears to have a slightly better approach (they don't link any resources anymore, though).
PLEASE don't necropost
Necroposting doesn't exist in the suggestions forum

Last edited by GoogleInScratch (Jan. 18, 2021 04:48:36)

CoolLionMan
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

A

GoogleInScratch wrote:

CoolLionMan wrote:

kChiaEC19 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

-snip- I also think the national suicide prevention hotline should not be censored by the phone number censor. Sorry if its off-topic.
It would probably be better to make a new suggestion about improvements to the phone number censor.

Paddle2See wrote:

-snip- followed by a block if the issue continues.
I understand that you generally wait for multiple violations of the Terms of Use in case the first one was an accident and not intentional. However, you merely specifying “if the issue continues” isn't the best approach because the user may not have read their messages and alerts yet (i.e. closing the alert by clicking the x button). Roblox, however, appears to have a slightly better approach (they don't link any resources anymore, though).
PLEASE don't necropost
Necroposting doesn't exist in the suggestions forum
Ah okay, I'm still pretty new to the forums
IndianRuby718
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

kChiaEC19 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

-snip- I also think the national suicide prevention hotline should not be censored by the phone number censor. Sorry if its off-topic.
It would probably be better to make a new suggestion about improvements to the phone number censor.
*ahem* [/offtopic]
Edit: COME ON I didn't even include the topic ID -__- fixed it now

Last edited by IndianRuby718 (Jan. 27, 2021 00:32:18)

46009361
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

We can't just reach out to a parent right away as we don't have the parent's email address. All we have is the address associated with the account, which may be the parent, the account owner, or even completely abandoned. So we decided to go with the notification approach, followed by a block if the issue continues.
I'd definitely agree with that last bit because the email could be outdated.
the2000
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

I heavily doubt that anyone has gotten banned or even punished for talking about depression in such a way that doesn't violate any other rules.

Scratch is not a therapy website. Some topics (i.e. suicide) are just not safe for Scratch, even if they are things which should be discussed elsewhere. What about children who happen to be victims of, uh, a certain crime which is often considered worse than murder despite not involving the death of the victim? It's great to give them a platform to freely share their feelings, but Scratch cannot be that place. I think that the current mental health alert message is the best thing that can be done, or at least has been proposed, about this issue.
ThatExplosivePigeon
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

Yeah I agree. While this is a very dark topic, it must be solved. I also heavily doubt anyone has gotten banned for talking about depression, it seems self destructive.

However, with a LOT of impressionable kids around, topics relating to self harm are not to be discussed here. They can lead to others doing so as well. The mental healt message is probably the best that could be done.
46009361
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

smol_nub
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

hi
smol_nub
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

dertermenter
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

I thought what happened is the scratch gave out alerts to people saying they where sorry to hear, but it’s not a place to discuss that on scratch, and then link some sites. I think that’s a good way to deal with it.
290Scratcher
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

smol_nub wrote:

hi
Don't make a post if you have nothing related to say.

As for the suggestion itself I'm pretty mixed. Yes these are serious topics that shouldn't really be discussed on a website like this but it could save someone's life. Maybe there are better ways to handle this such as sending an alert about self-help like

46009361 wrote:

Roblox, however, appears to have a slightly better approach (they don't link any resources anymore, though).
…mentioned here.
sonic__fan
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

I have actually never heard of this type of thing happening on Scratch. Can someone link me to something of this sort?

Anyways, support. Unless someone is talking about killing themselves (or something similar), it should be perfectly fine to say this sort of stuff, as Scratch can be considered a kid-friendly social media.
--Tears--
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

jji10 wrote:

LionHeart70 wrote:

-snip-
I disagree. Talking about depression is fine but talking about depression with and to kids who are about 8 or 9 isn't. Sure, they need to know that the world isn't just “rainbows and flowers and butterflies” but I'd rather delay that as long as possible. Not to mention that I'd like them to learn from their parents, not some stranger on the internet ranting about their feelings.
Hey! I'm 9! But support. I'm actually depressed
BanMeOS
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

sonic__fan wrote:

I have actually never heard of this type of thing happening on Scratch. Can someone link me to something of this sort?

Anyways, support. Unless someone is talking about killing themselves (or something similar), it should be perfectly fine to say this sort of stuff, as Scratch can be considered a kid-friendly social media.
plus banning them can make it worse.
Genderselkiera
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

I don't think that the parents should be emailed, as what if you're in a situation. And what if depression is falsely flagged and the parents get the email and the kid has to have an awkward conversation. And this suggestion doesn't even consider the fact that not everyone on scratch is using their parents email.
-glass_
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

there not banning people for banning depression there banning people for talking about self harm
Ayden7329
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

Genderselkiera wrote:

Ayden7329 wrote:

Genderselkiera wrote:

I don't think that the parents should be emailed, as what if you're in a situation. And what if depression is falsely flagged and the parents get the email and the kid has to have an awkward conversation. And this suggestion doesn't even consider the fact that not everyone on scratch is using their parents email.
Please don't post on an old topic, that is called necroposting and is not allowed.
sigh… necroposting doesn't exist in suggestions. Besides, I've never seen a forum rule against necroposting
oh yeah, I forgot this is suggestions. Anyways, I think that scratch should redirect you to an anti depression website.
coder2310
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Changing the way deperession is dealt with on Scratch

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