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- dertermenter
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United Kingdom
And? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
Why we are separate:
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
- LilyMakesThings
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United Kingdom
you are awesomeAnd? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
Why we are separate:
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
- dertermenter
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
United Kingdom
Thanks!you are awesomeAnd? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
Why we are separate:
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
- pandacorn_owl
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United Kingdom
UK should still be an option. I think a better comparison than to Scandinavia would be terrortories. We have an option for all the terrortories of the UK, Us etc. so we could ahve an option for countries withing are country. I personally identify as British before English though and would much rather put Uk. Also most websites have UK as an option rather than all the british countries
- fdreerf
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
Why we are separate:U.S. states have all of those as well. Different governors, different flags, different laws, different languages (English/Spanish), and different culture.
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
- Mecurey
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32 posts
United Kingdom
And? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
Why we are separate:
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
By this logic the US would be a group. ( Referring to the list).
- Rendangbike2
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
this is really political
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- the2000
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United Kingdom
He was just making an observation…this is really political-snip-
Anyway, as for the actual post since I haven't responded to that yet, I agree with pandacorn_owl. I think that the current way and the proposed way should both be options.
- ResExsention
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New Scratcher
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United Kingdom
Well technically they're all countries, but they're also all represented as one. Idk why, but it's there.
- gosoccerboy5
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United Kingdom
I'm not an expert on this stuff.. haha.. *awkward silence* I guess what you guys think is best.
- ScratchCatHELLO
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United Kingdom
I'm sorry for being too American, but isn't the UK one country?
Actually states are like that too
Not trying to be rude, but I'm just confused
Isn't this the kind of thing that you would put in your about me if it matters to you that much?
I guess I'm fine with this if this happens:
But also locations in scratch are based off of the ISO 3166-1 encoding list of countries.
US law is different from UK law.And? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
We have separate history, separate capitals, separate flags, separate ministers.
How much more evidence do you want.
We are not one nation.
Actually states are like that too
Not trying to be rude, but I'm just confused
Isn't this the kind of thing that you would put in your about me if it matters to you that much?
I guess I'm fine with this if this happens:
UK should still be an option. I think a better comparison than to Scandinavia would be terrortories. We have an option for all the terrortories of the UK, Us etc. so we could ahve an option for countries withing are country. I personally identify as British before English though and would much rather put Uk. Also most websites have UK as an option rather than all the british countries
But also locations in scratch are based off of the ISO 3166-1 encoding list of countries.
- -EmeraldThunder-
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
Why we are separate:American law is different form British law.
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
- -EmeraldThunder-
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
United Kingdom
I'm sorry for being too American, but isn't the UK one country?No we are different nations.
Do you class Scandinavia as a country.
As the name suggests we are united kingdoms.
It's not even that old.
James I or James VI if you're Scottish came up with it.
A group of nations. Not one.
- dertermenter
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
I'm sorry for being too American, but isn't the UK one country?US law is different from UK law.And? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
We have separate history, separate capitals, separate flags, separate ministers.
How much more evidence do you want.
We are not one nation.
Actually states are like that too
Not trying to be rude, but I'm just confused
Isn't this the kind of thing that you would put in your about me if it matters to you that much?
I guess I'm fine with this if this happens:UK should still be an option. I think a better comparison than to Scandinavia would be terrortories. We have an option for all the terrortories of the UK, Us etc. so we could ahve an option for countries withing are country. I personally identify as British before English though and would much rather put Uk. Also most websites have UK as an option rather than all the british countries
But also locations in scratch are based off of the ISO 3166-1 encoding list of countries.
UK - Group of countries
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales: The actual countries
- dertermenter
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
But this is countries, not states. It is different. States do not deserve it's own place.Why we are separate:U.S. states have all of those as well. Different governors, different flags, different laws, different languages (English/Spanish), and different culture.
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
Counties are the same as states but they do not have these stuff (different governors yes)
Last edited by dertermenter (Feb. 7, 2021 09:04:20)
- cruncherBones
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United Kingdom
Anyway, massive support as it is not a country, they are separate.
Yes but this is COUNTRIES and countries should be separate. Oh, and USA is not EnglandWhy we are separate:U.S. states have all of those as well. Different governors, different flags, different laws, different languages (English/Spanish), and different culture.
Different Prime Ministers
Different flags
Different laws
Different languages (Welsh a England)
Different culture
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, BUT UK IS A GROUP!
- ScratchCatHELLO
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
United Kingdom
I'm sorry for being too American, but isn't the UK one country?US law is different from UK law.And? Still seperateBy this logic, each state in the U.S. should be separate as they have their own separate powers, governments, taxes, etc. In every international organization, there is only a “United Kingdom”, not four entities taking its place.
We have separate history, separate capitals, separate flags, separate ministers.
How much more evidence do you want.
We are not one nation.
Actually states are like that too
Not trying to be rude, but I'm just confused
Isn't this the kind of thing that you would put in your about me if it matters to you that much?
I guess I'm fine with this if this happens:UK should still be an option. I think a better comparison than to Scandinavia would be terrortories. We have an option for all the terrortories of the UK, Us etc. so we could ahve an option for countries withing are country. I personally identify as British before English though and would much rather put Uk. Also most websites have UK as an option rather than all the british countries
But also locations in scratch are based off of the ISO 3166-1 encoding list of countries.
UK - Group of countries
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales: The actual countries
But then why is the UK one country under the UN and literally any list of countries?
I'm sorry for being too American, but isn't the UK one country?No we are different nations.
Do you class Scandinavia as a country.
As the name suggests we are united kingdoms.
It's not even that old.
James I or James VI if you're Scottish came up with it.
A group of nations. Not one.
No, but Scandinavia isn’t anything like the UK. Scandinavia is three sovereign nations with no combined government. The UK is four countries with a combined government. Maybe the analogy you’re looking for is Denmark, which is made up of semi-autonomous “countries” (Greenland and the Faroe Islands) and Denmark itself.
Also, as I said before, if the location list is based off of ISO 3166-1, then this won’t happen.
- fdreerf
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
United Kingdom
Yes but this is COUNTRIES and countries should be separate. Oh, and USA is not EnglandSo? Why should one country be split up and the other stay intact, just because one subdivision calls itself a “country” and the other calls itself a “state”, which is synonymous with “country”?
I have proposed a simple test: “can you be a citizen of that country, or have a passport of that country?” If you can legally be a citizen of a country or live in a country's territory where citizenship is weird (like Guam, Norfolk Island, Isle of Man) etc., then it should be on the list. Likewise, areas with no legal sovereign control should also be on the list (Antarctica).
You cannot have a “Scottish passport” nor be a “Welsh citizen”.
- dertermenter
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1000+ posts
United Kingdom
The first bit you are confused. States are not countries, states are counties here.Yes but this is COUNTRIES and countries should be separate. Oh, and USA is not EnglandSo? Why should one country be split up and the other stay intact, just because one subdivision calls itself a “country” and the other calls itself a “state”, which is synonymous with “country”?
I have proposed a simple test: “can you be a citizen of that country, or have a passport of that country?” If you can legally be a citizen of a country or live in a country's territory where citizenship is weird (like Guam, Norfolk Island, Isle of Man) etc., then it should be on the list. Likewise, areas with no legal sovereign control should also be on the list (Antarctica).
You cannot have a “Scottish passport” nor be a “Welsh citizen”.
Does it matter about being a citizen? We are still a country and the UK is NOT a country. I know a big point you seem to be saying is that we are not completely independent but Palestine is on the list and that isn't independant.
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