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the2000
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ForumHelperNanoPiex wrote:

(extracted)
We may never know…

Edit: Ay, king of the page! I've been getting crowned on page 3 a lot lately.

Last edited by the2000 (Jan. 1, 2021 14:27:02)

GoogleInScratch
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No support

If you didn't view the project, how do you know if it's inappropriate or not?
ForumHelperNanoPiex
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the2000 wrote:

ForumHelperNanoPiex wrote:

(extracted)
We may never know…

Edit: Ay, king of the page! I've been getting crowned on page 3 a lot lately.
The post makes no sense to anyone. I thought it was my topic.
StevenTheSquare
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No support. Would make it even easier for trolls to report innocent projects.
MTM828
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the2000 wrote:

No support. I don't like how OP isn't listening to criticism, either. Most of the points brought up against the idea have just been deflected with “Scratch is terrible without this suggestion,” “I'm not listening,” or "Come on, it's not that bad of an idea!" OP, please learn to take criticism in a mature way. We're in this forum because we care about the improvement of Scratch too, not just because we're mean people who shut down all good suggestions.
when have i ever done that

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

MTM828 wrote:

Belove8 wrote:

No support, this would assist in mass reporting and just be an inconvenience in general. Imagine your browsing trending and you accidentally click the button and now you have to click off. This would happen time and time again especially for users on mobile. In summary, it would inconvenience most everybody.
and its not our problem if itll make the st's work harder
It is our problem, more reports mean more time for the ST to review the reports, the more time it takes the longer inappropriate projects stay up, and that's not good
yeah, exactly. they should work harder. its not our prob that their job is hard, they're still getting paid, so they should just quit if its too hard. plus mit can hire more moderators. fun fact, the so called known st members probably dont do much moderation. apparently there are hidden st members who work at mit, doing stuff like replies, management and of course, moderation (from what i can see).
MTM828
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GoogleInScratch wrote:

No support

If you didn't view the project, how do you know if it's inappropriate or not?
im talking about the thumb

StevenTheSquare wrote:

No support. Would make it even easier for trolls to report innocent projects.
not our prob, moderation should be PERFECT. ur saying that mass reporting would be an issue, but thats a moderation issue, in fact, this should be another suggestion (to improve moderation).
MTM828
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lol i should get some sort of ‘objection!’ badge
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS
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MTM828 wrote:

the2000 wrote:

No support. I don't like how OP isn't listening to criticism, either. Most of the points brought up against the idea have just been deflected with “Scratch is terrible without this suggestion,” “I'm not listening,” or "Come on, it's not that bad of an idea!" OP, please learn to take criticism in a mature way. We're in this forum because we care about the improvement of Scratch too, not just because we're mean people who shut down all good suggestions.
when have i ever done that

MTM828 wrote:

im not rceplying to any more posts mentioning this, as it will steer off the topic. moderators (mit, who manage scratch) should be able to handle a few (if ur going to go like “feEEeeWww?? !? ! ?” then just go (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ) reports. back to the suggestion which will never get accepted.

MTM828 wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

It is our problem, more reports mean more time for the ST to review the reports, the more time it takes the longer inappropriate projects stay up, and that's not good
yeah, exactly. they should work harder. its not our prob that their job is hard, they're still getting paid, so they should just quit if its too hard. plus mit can hire more moderators. fun fact, the so called known st members probably dont do much moderation.
I'm pretty sure only the one's with accounts, or in your terms ‘known’ ST member moderate, we shouldn't be trying to make their job more difficult, the more difficult it is for them, the worse it is for us, and look at this
in a case where the parent pays the child for chores

child wrote:

I'm done cleaning the living room

parent wrote:

Okay, here's your money

parent's deviously scheming mind wrote:

Let's trash the living room to make their job harder, they're getting paid after all, so what if I have to stay in a trashed living room till the weekend, they need to learn how to work hard
This is unfair to the child who is already working hard to clean the living room, there's no good reason to delibrately get the living room trahsed, just because they're paid to clean up the mess

MTM828 wrote:

apparently there are hidden st members who work at mit, doing stuff like replies, management and of course, moderation (from what i can see).
replies such as? I'm pretty sure the one's with accounts do all the moderation, also, what's your source

MTM828 wrote:

not our prob,
It is our problem, more phony reports, the more time it takes to review projects, the more time actually inappropriate ones stay up

MTM828 wrote:

moderation should be PERFECT.
Complete perfection is impossible, the ST are humans, they aren't robots, they have lives

MTM828 wrote:

ur saying that mass reporting would be an issue, but thats a moderation issue
Is it a issue with how the ST acts that causes people to needlessly report people

MTM828 wrote:

in fact, this should be another suggestion (to improve moderation).
It's not a moderation problem that you can't endure a for few seconds, you can just try not to look at the thumbnail, or something else

Last edited by JPOWERPUFFGIRLS (Jan. 3, 2021 17:36:18)

pavcato
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MTM828 wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

MTM828 wrote:

Belove8 wrote:

No support, this would assist in mass reporting and just be an inconvenience in general. Imagine your browsing trending and you accidentally click the button and now you have to click off. This would happen time and time again especially for users on mobile. In summary, it would inconvenience most everybody.
and its not our problem if itll make the st's work harder
It is our problem, more reports mean more time for the ST to review the reports, the more time it takes the longer inappropriate projects stay up, and that's not good
yeah, exactly. they should work harder. its not our prob that their job is hard, they're still getting paid, so they should just quit if its too hard. plus mit can hire more moderators. fun fact, the so called known st members probably dont do much moderation. apparently there are hidden st members who work at mit, doing stuff like replies, management and of course, moderation (from what i can see).
Yes, taking away people's jobs or overworking them because they don't work 24/7 is a good idea

Last edited by pavcato (Jan. 3, 2021 17:00:37)

ForumHelperNanoPiex
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bump
hello_smile
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Just report and use window.location.replace to remove it from history.
ScolderCreations
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No support, if you're not looking at a project, how do you know it's bad? And if the thumbnail is bad, you can just start the project, which makes it disappear.
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ScolderCreations wrote:

No support, if you're not looking at a project, how do you know it's bad? And if the thumbnail is bad, you can just start the project, which makes it disappear.
And make more appear. Anyways, not saying how, but you can already spam report with curl. Could someone post a reply with curl as a PoC, then show a screenshot of it? (whiting out the sessionid and bot bypass parts)
Quantum-Cat
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MTM828 wrote:

tbh i might close this why is everyone hating on this suggestion, its stupid that it isnt there! like, i mean, come on isnt mit trying to make scratch kid-appropriate? they should provide more efficient moderation. if mass reporting is an issue, then moderation is terrible. ok, now im mad! i might explode in a few secs. O_o
I don't know why you think the scratch team only reviews like 5 projects a day and think that their work is easy – so please respect them. If you are wondering why everyone isn't supporting this suggestion, it is because it will just make the mass-reporting issue worse.

MTM828 wrote:

yeah, exactly. they should work harder. its not our prob that their job is hard, they're still getting paid, so they should just quit if its too hard. plus mit can hire more moderators. fun fact, the so called known st members probably dont do much moderation. apparently there are hidden st members who work at mit, doing stuff like replies, management and of course, moderation (from what i can see).
That isn't an excuse to make their work harder.

MTM828 wrote:

not our prob, moderation should be PERFECT. ur saying that mass reporting would be an issue, but thats a moderation issue, in fact, this should be another suggestion (to improve moderation).
They are humans like us – they can't be perfect.

Last edited by Quantum-Cat (Aug. 21, 2021 22:46:31)

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