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ideapad-320
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

ideapad-320 wrote:

ideapad-320 wrote:

ideapad-320 wrote:

jerry1000 wrote:

GyroscopeBill wrote:

epicsandwich123 wrote:

stickfiregames wrote:

Support for a message when you switch, it would prevent this from happening accidentally.

no support, just press back!
That's not a great solution as you will still lose the quality of the image.

No you wouldn't, he means press the undo button which reverts it to exactly what it was before you converted it.
i agree with GyroscopeBill and stickfiregames but not epicsandwich123.
i do not know if i aggre whith jerry1000 wrote:

jubjub24 wrote:

Dear Scratch team,

I am very angry at the Scratch art program right now , when you convert Bitmap to Vector or Vector or Bitmap it gets all pixely and loses its information! Please do something about this!

Thanks!
jubjub24
thats what bitmap was for.

NoxSpooth wrote:

Well, that's what the bitmap is for. Pixely art.

But I agree that the bitmap quality has lowered from 1.4 to 2.0…
i aggre whith this post

turkey3 wrote:

A bitmap image is stored as an array of pixels, whereas a vector image is a connection of proportional splines which initiate anti-aliasing. And you're probably wondering what that means. It means, when converting a bitmap image to vector, it keeps it's bitmap properties and appearance, and becomes one object. Unless a tracer is used in an external program, it pertains its bitmap properties, and therefore looks the same, although you can then draw vector over or behind it. When converting from a vector image to a bitmap image, it needs to change it. A vector image is saved in .svg format, whereas a bitmap can be .png, .jpeg, .bmp, and more. The bitmap images are stored as a grid of pixels, so when the vector image is converted to bitmap, it must lose its control points (splines), lose its anti-aliasing, and obtain bitmap properties inherited from a converter. That's a lot, but the Scratch Wiki Paint Editor article can explain more

As for bitmap, there have been glitches where pixels would snap to subpixels instead of the 1 pixel intervals. I usually prefer vector art
that was a lot of writing i aggre with

turkey3 wrote:

EpicMiner wrote:

where is the bitmap? I'm trying to make a game but I need it! ;(
Bitmap is by default in the Paint Editor when your draw a new sprite. At the bottom-right of the paint editor is also:


And the button is opposite if already in bitmap.
you know a lot about bitmap and vector

MushroomMan99 wrote:

It would be great if bitmap images were compatible with the vector editor. I think that would solve most of people's problems.
Those blocks are off-topic!
It would be wierd if this would be quoted
dude341
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

dude341 wrote:

Do not necropost.
Necroposting doesn’t exist in this forum.

While there is a way to easily convert Vector into Bitmap, you can't do so vice versa–and either it's impossible, or takes a really large amount of time and effort and difficulty to implement.
I thought this was in bugs and glitches, nvm.
ItsMarbles
Scratcher
31 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

I don't really think this is possible, at least not without a lot of work. Bitmap images contain pixels to represent an image, whereas vector contains math and coordinates. Converting between these two will inevitably result in quality loss. Hope that helps!
-ShadowOfTheFuture-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

No support, it's called pressing the undo button.
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

stickfiregames wrote:

Support for a message when you switch, it would prevent this from happening accidentally.
Just undo.
__________
No support, bitmap is an array of pixels and there is no way to prevent it.
gusdn2
Scratcher
66 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

How about draw very big bitmap and later change its scale?
wWSunPandaWw
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1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

gusdn2 wrote:

How about draw very big bitmap and later change its scale?
We have a limited space to work with.
And with the way Bitmap pixels are stored, anything you put outside of the space is nonexistent.
WJCSara
Scratcher
2 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

EpicMiner wrote:

where is the bitmap? I'm trying to make a game but I need it! ;(


Bitmap is a little blue button at the bottom of ur screen that may say, convert to bitmap or convert to vector if u r on bitmap.
WJCSara
Scratcher
2 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

I honestly like bitmap cuz u can do so many things and go so many places, I thank scratch 4 bitmap
catzrulezalwayz
Scratcher
1 post

Bitmap vs. Vector

hey scratch i was wondering if you could fix the converting from bitmap to vector ‘cause it gets all pixely thanks!
and bitmap is better ’cause you can erase without problems so yeah

Last edited by catzrulezalwayz (Nov. 28, 2019 01:50:13)

--Explosion--
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

catzrulezalwayz wrote:

hey scratch i was wondering if you could fix the converting from bitmap to vector ‘cause it gets all pixely thanks!
and bitmap is better ’cause you can erase without problems so yeah
You can press
Command+Z
or
Control+Z
on windows to undo recent chanhes, you can also duplicate the costume and edit it and revert back to the original if you need it.
Nambaseking01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

I think the OP is referring that only few features are available in Vector and the others are in Bitmap, and whenever they switch their art gets blurred. The only way to fix that is to add the features of Bitmap to Vector as well (e.g. colouring the background).
Ari_The_Warrior_Cat
Scratcher
4 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

hi
_ReykjaviK_
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500+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

EpicMiner wrote:

where is the bitmap? I'm trying to make a game but I need it! ;(
You can change between them in the bottom of your editor
deeki
Scratcher
14 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

If you accidently click on Bitmap, to restore it to vector without losing the ability to move separate objects and other stuff like that, just press the undo button
PotatoApocalypse727
Scratcher
43 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

(long unnecessary quote and reference to a browser extension removed by moderator - please don't spam)

And also I don't wanna necropost so here are my thoughts on this: I think that when you convert Bitmap to Vector it should come up as a single thing. But when you click on it, you can hit ungroup and it will turn into a bunch of squares.

Last edited by Paddle2See (June 3, 2021 08:41:58)

LoUlaGaMes
New Scratcher
14 posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

Every time I upload a picture it automatically makes it bitmap help
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

LoUlaGaMes wrote:

Every time I upload a picture it automatically makes it bitmap help
All images are bitmap as they are made up of a grid of pixels. You can't change that, though you can convert it to vector to get a vector object so it is more malleable, though it will still be a bitmap image.
mybearworld
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

GyroscopeBill wrote:

epicsandwich123 wrote:

stickfiregames wrote:

Support for a message when you switch, it would prevent this from happening accidentally.

no support, just press back!
That's not a great solution as you will still lose the quality of the image.
No, the Undo Button.
cat_tap
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bitmap vs. Vector

ideapad-320 wrote:

-snip-

ideapad-320 wrote:

It would be wierd if this would be quoted
welp. its quoted .
Anyway, bitmap converts it to pixels. so:

jubjub24 wrote:

when you convert Bitmap to Vector or Vector or Bitmap it gets all pixely and loses its information! Please do something about this!
They cannot change this, it does exactly what is supposed to do! Changing vector to bitmap will cause it to turn into the form of pixels. the bitmap convertion is specifically for this purpose, and also so the scratch program can upload bitmap images, and then you can convert it to vector, which will allow you to draw on top of an image. If you take a vector image and shrink it down, then convert it to bitmap, back to vector and resize it back to its original size, it will turn it into a pixelated character. This is how you can use the converter .

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