gosoccerboy5 wrote:

Even if the blacklist doesn't let you put those words, people would just remove the words and share the project anyways.

they that the content is bad, it's just that they put warnings because they think its gonna bypass that rule and make it automatically follow the community guidelines

Well having a 13+ Scratch is rejected and people could just report the project.

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

People could then say adult only or teen only

i guess thats going on the blacklist too

XD
But what if someone's saying

 Hi I'm a teen 

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

People could then say adult only or teen only

i guess thats going on the blacklist too

adolescents only? You're just gonna end up blacklisting every workaround, and people will keep making more

totallyanarchy wrote:

I don't think a blacklist would be fair? Not everyone on this site is 10 years old… Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by “blacklist”. If you mean people under that age won't be able to see the projects, then that also isn't fair because many projects that are pretty much fine are rated “13+” for essentially no reason.

they mean to blacklist the phrases ‘13+’ and ‘18+’ in comments and descriptions

ittybitmap wrote:

uhh i guess you cant put teen and only next to eachother

You can workaround only by using just, and solely, let's see everything we need to blacklist

18+
13+
Adolescents only
Teens only
Teenagers only
Adults only
Just Adolescents
Just Teens
Just Teenagers
Just Adults
Solely Adolescents
Solely Teens
Solely Teenagers
Solely Adults
Over 18
Over 13
18 or over
13 or over
more than 13 years old
more than 18 years old

The list is just going to grow

Too much stuff for the bot to detect, no support.

Semi-support. It would be like naming sites that aren't allowed; you can still get around it, but it discourages people from using it. There's no reason you should've created that huge list, since that's not the point of this suggestion.
[plus you could have easily been saying “I bought over 13 bags of chips today”]

The problem is that a person could be saying, for example, “You can vote once you're 18+ years of age” and the filterbot wouldn't allow it. I think having adult/teen/teenagers next to the word “over” could work, since I don't think there's very many times you could be using that to mean something else. But that would be hard to add to the filterbot and probably not the most important thing for the ST to be doing right now.

IndianRuby718 wrote:

Semi-support. It would be like naming sites that aren't allowed; you can still get around it, but it discourages people from using it. There's no reason you should've created that huge list, since that's not the point of this suggestion.

what list

ittybitmap wrote:

IndianRuby718 wrote:

Semi-support. It would be like naming sites that aren't allowed; you can still get around it, but it discourages people from using it. There's no reason you should've created that huge list, since that's not the point of this suggestion.

what list

I didnt make the list

ittybitmap wrote:

what list

[I meant the one in JPOWERPUFFGIRLS' post]

The filterbot is already quite annoying, so I don't see why this is necessary.
If you ever encounter a project that has adult content, report it immediately, or use Contact Us.

Use contact us if you'd like something to be blacklisted.

What if someone wanted to say “13+5” or “18+3/7”? You know, like math. And 18+ or 13+ in itself isn't inappropriate. There are surely some uses where kids are allowed to see the word itself. Like, here's an example: I'm trash at making examples btw
“Hey, what are you doing?”
“Hi there, I'm watching a movie right now.”
“Cool! What's it called?”
“Well, it's 13+, so I don't think I should mention it on Scratch.”
And really, the word 13+ (or what about 14+, 15+, 16+, 18+, 21+, just teens, older than adult, 13 or over?) isn't inappropriate. It's not like it's screaming bad words and inappropriate stuff. Or what if you made a game/animation/art, and you wanted to type in the description "Some people who are very easily scared might not like this, I would suggest being 13 years of age or older, but if you still want to try it, then ok, go ahead. (In this example, the project isn't actually bad, just that some people might not like it.

TL;DR: There are multiple uses where 13+ and 18+ can be used without being inappropriate, because the word itself isn't “bad” or anything.
NO SUPPORT.

No support. Everyone below has good points:

Krokophant wrote:

What if someone wanted to say “13+5” or “18+3/7”? You know, like math. And 18+ or 13+ in itself isn't inappropriate. There are surely some uses where kids are allowed to see the word itself. Like, here's an example: I'm trash at making examples btw
“Hey, what are you doing?”
“Hi there, I'm watching a movie right now.”
“Cool! What's it called?”
“Well, it's 13+, so I don't think I should mention it on Scratch.”
And really, the word 13+ (or what about 14+, 15+, 16+, 18+, 21+, just teens, older than adult, 13 or over?) isn't inappropriate. It's not like it's screaming bad words and inappropriate stuff. Or what if you made a game/animation/art, and you wanted to type in the description "Some people who are very easily scared might not like this, I would suggest being 13 years of age or older, but if you still want to try it, then ok, go ahead. (In this example, the project isn't actually bad, just that some people might not like it.

TL;DR: There are multiple uses where 13+ and 18+ can be used without being inappropriate, because the word itself isn't “bad” or anything.
NO SUPPORT.

MontyDoggo wrote:

Use contact us if you'd like something to be blacklisted.

sportfan999 wrote:

The filterbot is already quite annoying, so I don't see why this is necessary.
If you ever encounter a project that has adult content, report it immediately, or use Contact Us.

Yeah I got reported for an emoji so it`s a little outta hand.

NanoPIex wrote:

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

People could then say adult only or teen only

i guess thats going on the blacklist too

XD
But what if someone's saying

 Hi I'm a teen 

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

People could then say adult only or teen only

i guess thats going on the blacklist too

adolescents only? You're just gonna end up blacklisting every workaround, and people will keep making more

totallyanarchy wrote:

I don't think a blacklist would be fair? Not everyone on this site is 10 years old… :/ Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by “blacklist”. If you mean people under that age won't be able to see the projects, then that also isn't fair because many projects that are pretty much fine are rated “13+” for essentially no reason.

they mean to blacklist the phrases ‘13+’ and ‘18+’ in comments and descriptions

ittybitmap wrote:

uhh i guess you cant put teen and only next to eachother

You can workaround only by using just, and solely, let's see everything we need to blacklist

18+
13+
Adolescents only
Teens only
Teenagers only
Adults only
Just Adolescents
Just Teens
Just Teenagers
Just Adults
Solely Adolescents
Solely Teens
Solely Teenagers
Solely Adults
Over 18
Over 13
18 or over
13 or over
more than 13 years old
more than 18 years old

The list is just going to grow

Too much stuff for the bot to detect, no support.

Marc92020 wrote:

Well having a 13+ Scratch is rejected and people could just report the project.

:)

Krokophant wrote:

What if someone wanted to say “13+5” or “18+3/7”? You know, like math. And 18+ or 13+ in itself isn't inappropriate.

Wrong, it wouldn't be censored because you are putting characters after the 18+, discluding space, like how if u would say discorn it wont be censored because the filterbot doesn't work like that

sportfan999 wrote:

The filterbot is already quite annoying, so I don't see why this is necessary.
If you ever encounter a project that has adult content, report it immediately, or use Contact Us.

Try seeing this in the scratch teams POV, they dont take chances when it comes to protecting users, especially for blood, swearing, etc, 13+ is put because usually things that contain 13+ in a sentence has blood, swearing and other stuff

Krokophant wrote:

“Hey, what are you doing?”
“Hi there, I'm watching a movie right now.”
“Cool! What's it called?”
“Well, it's 13+, so I don't think I should mention it on Scratch.”

not trying to be rude, but who…says that? it's called pg13 or tv14 if it's a show

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

mtech22 wrote:

What if someone wanted to say “I'm 13+?”

Who says that?

Quite a few people only give their age range, not their exact age. For example, I might say “I'm 9-12 years old” instead of saying “I'm 12 years old” if I'm uncomfortable sharing my exact age but want people to know about what age I am.

There are quite a few scenarios I can think of where this would become an issue and I'm only considering how many times you'd have to say something along the lines of 13+ or 18+ while answering a question on QaS. Say someone asks how they become a Scratch Team member, which happens a lot. You wouldn't be able to express that you have to be over the age of 18 to become ST, and that's a big part of it that a lot of the people asking don't know. Or you wouldn't be able to say stuff about how a certain website has 13+/18+ content and isn't allowed on Scratch. In order to say those, you'd have to use something along the lines of 13+ or 18+ that would most likely be a blacklisted workaround.

I'm beginning to lean on “no support” even though I don't really do that anymore, and that's just because it won't stop anyone from doing it. I mean, come on, who on Earth is going to say

hey there bud I've got some 13+ age inappropriate content for ya here ya go (link)

or

wanna see somethin' inappropriate well here's ya age 18+ content buddy (link)

this was the most fun post I've made all day

Yeah no.

There's almost no good reason to add this. Unlike Discord, for instance, you can't just tell people to “go chat on 15+ i have something very important to tell you” because no such service exists.

Besides, this could cause extreme confusion. If you attempt to make 13+ content child friendly, you wouldn't be able to put age advisories: "This project is not 13+, so it should be alright."

ResExsention wrote:

Yeah no.

There's almost no good reason to add this. Unlike Discord, for instance, you can't just tell people to “go chat on 15+ i have something very important to tell you” because no such service exists.

Besides, this could cause extreme confusion. If you attempt to make 13+ content child friendly, you wouldn't be able to put age advisories: "This project is not 13+, so it should be alright."

Working off this, imagine someone make a child friendly project based off something 13+ which happens quite often. Then someone asks what it's based on. “Oh sorry, I can't tell you because the original is 13+” would not be able to said nor would the workarounds. People use the phrases 13+ and 18+ in more contexts than just bad ones and overall, the amount of scenarios where this becomes an issue is much greater than the amount of scenarios it would help with.

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

-snipped-

I agree with SSB20.

mtech22 wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

gosoccerboy5 wrote:

No support. Reports can take care of this. Bots can't. we don't have the resources to make a bot that will detect 18+ or 13+ content, even if it's in the title or desc.

i meant the sentence “13+”

What if someone wanted to say “I'm 13+?”

Do people actually talk like that? Usually I think people would say “I'm over 13 years old,” but I guess some people where English isn't their native language, they might think that's the way to say it.

ShyGamer16 wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

-snipped-

I agree with SSB20.

mtech22 wrote:

ittybitmap wrote:

gosoccerboy5 wrote:

No support. Reports can take care of this. Bots can't. we don't have the resources to make a bot that will detect 18+ or 13+ content, even if it's in the title or desc.

i meant the sentence “13+”

What if someone wanted to say “I'm 13+?”

Do people actually talk like that? Usually I think people would say “I'm over 13 years old,” but I guess some people where English isn't their native language, they might think that's the way to say it.

Or if they're writing it in their About Me, they may want to say just 13+ to save characters.