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Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

#Creator's Note(before any edits): this suggestion isn't to make Scratch 3D, Scratch would still be 2D, just it would have VR support
#EXTRA note from creator(edit 1 -Thursday November 26 01:04:29-): why is no one posting?
So, VR is getting more widely used with the times. So my suggestion is to add support for people with VR headsets, not to make Scratch 3D:
VR editor
credit on r/Scratch, and more specifically u/Ezlambry, here
*moderator who is goes to this topic, feel free to remove the link if you feel it shouldn't be there, I'm just giving credit, following the CGs here*

VR would probably be treated like mobile. A pointer would point to where you're pointing with the controller, and you could press the trigger to “click”.
no concept
no concept
When you need a keyboard, a popup would appear in order to let you type. #Creator's note (for a person to make a concept): the keyboard can look however you want, just make it use orange or blue somewhere in it.

TL;DR: Scratch VR is the a Mobile Scratch Editor.

Last edited by Steve0Greatness (Nov. 27, 2020 06:05:24)

SausageMcSauce
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Scratch on VR has been officially rejected (read the part I put in bold)

Rejected Suggestions List wrote:

1.8 3D Scratch
This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for a virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.

There is a similar program to Scratch that contains block programming with 3D features, called Starlogo TNG. You can also try Alice; it is not exactly like Scratch, but has some similar features.
Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

SausageMcSauce wrote:

Scratch on VR has been officially rejected (read the part I put in bold)

Rejected Suggestions List wrote:

1.8 3D Scratch
This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for a virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.

There is a similar program to Scratch that contains block programming with 3D features, called Starlogo TNG. You can also try Alice; it is not exactly like Scratch, but has some similar features.
Really, because I'm pretty sure that part is just referencing that VR isn't an excuse for 3D scratch…
also, I'm just talking about a VR browser support, because that's pretty fair

Last edited by Steve0Greatness (Nov. 27, 2020 07:03:16)

Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

secretagent123 wrote:

A similar topic has just been shut down.
not really that similar, this doesn't talk about a extension…
Greg8128
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Steve0Greatness wrote:

not really that similar, this doesn't talk about a extension…

Doesn't really make a difference to be honest. “Extensions” are for things that would benefit Scratch but not every project will use. VR doesn't benefit Scratch because almost nobody has a VR headset.
j3r0_plays
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch, in VR

So does anyone really read those recjected topics? I feel lik just every post nowadays is just already recjected like 9 years ago.
oofer90
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch, in VR

This has been rejected. I suggest you read the list of suggestions and read it carefully.
Like seriously does anyone ever read the list of suggestions before making a suggestion?
NanoPIex
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch, in VR

No support. Scratch doesn`t seem like a VR sort of thing. And I found a simalir topic that was shut down if you want me to link it.
sportfan999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

I don't think VR would be very easy-to-use in the Scratch editor, and, according to this, only 171 Million out of 7.6 Billion people have a VR Headset, which translates to 0.225%. If you want to question the equation I used to find that, I used the good ol' (change/original), so, in this case, that would be (7,600,000,000 / 171,000,000). If only 2% of the population had a VR headset, and hardly any of those 2% use Scratch, then this seems like a lot of work for something that would only work for a few users. Sorry :/

Last edited by sportfan999 (Nov. 27, 2020 15:43:05)

Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

sportfan999 wrote:

I don't think VR would be very easy-to-use in the Scratch editor, and, according to this, only 171 Million out of 7.6 Billion people have a VR Headset, which translates to 0.225%. If you want to question the equation I used to find that, I used the good ol' (change/original), so, in this case, that would be (7,600,000,000 / 171,000,000). If only 2% of the population had a VR headset, and hardly any of those 2% use Scratch, then this seems like a lot of work for something that would only work for a few users. Sorry :/
yes… indead, but more than 90% of 13-16 year olds own a phone, over 50% of the 90% owns an android phone, and over 45% of those people own google cardboard or something similar. A lot of 13-16 year olds use Scratch.

NanoPIex wrote:

No support. Scratch doesn`t seem like a VR sort of thing. And I found a simalir topic that was shut down if you want me to link it.
why do I need to ask for the link?

oofer90 wrote:

This has been rejected. I suggest you read the list of suggestions and read it carefully.
Like seriously does anyone ever read the list of suggestions before making a suggestion?
okay, normally I do read the TOLORS, but for some reason 3D !doesn't mean) 2D.

j3r0_plays wrote:

So does anyone really read those recjected topics? I feel lik just every post nowadays is just already recjected like 9 years ago.
Wait, are you saying that I need to go through TOLORS, click every link, and read every post?

Greg8128 wrote:

Steve0Greatness wrote:

not really that similar, this doesn't talk about a extension…

Doesn't really make a difference to be honest. “Extensions” are for things that would benefit Scratch but not every project will use. VR doesn't benefit Scratch because almost nobody has a VR headset.
are you sure about that.
Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Look what I found…
how has it not been 24 hours?

Last edited by Steve0Greatness (Nov. 27, 2020 16:29:39)

pavcato
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Steve0Greatness wrote:

Look what I found…
how has it not been 24 hours?
How does this even relate to the suggestion?
Prime689
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Rejected Suggestions List wrote:

1.8 3D Scratch
This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for a virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.
Also, VR could cause eye damage, motion sickness, dizziness, nausea, headache, sweating, vomiting and postural instability (trouble standing properly).
Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch, in VR

Prime689 wrote:

Rejected Suggestions List wrote:

1.8 3D Scratch
This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for a virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.
Also, VR could cause eye damage, motion sickness, dizziness, nausea, headache, sweating, vomiting and postural instability (trouble standing properly).
I know, I'm trying to get this topic closed

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