-Snipet- wrote:

My advice would be to learn pen. It allows you to make entire games using only 1 sprite. Undertale battles would be especially good in pen because of their simplicity. The question is pretty broad, so I hope I was able to answer it

technoguyx wrote:

There's not a single recipe to (re)create an RPG battle, but one principle that works for any programming task is the following: break up big problems into smaller parts, and then join those parts together. (This principle is called modular design and it works on many contexts.)

To find out what the “parts” should be, it's good to make a rough list of all the things your game should do. Some things I could think in the case of an Undertale clone in Scratch are:

(Before the battle)
+- Variable: HP.
+- Variable: LOVE.
+- List: Items.
+- ...etc.

Battle Start
+- Intro animation
+- Text dialogue
+- Character animation
+- Battle Menu
	+- Fight
		+- Quick-time event
	+- ...
	+- ...
	+- ...
+- Turn system
	+- What should the opponent do on their turn?
		+- Text blurbs
		+- Attack
			+- Projectiles: e.g. use cloning
			+- Controls for the player so they can dodge

This will give you an idea of the scale of your project and all the different tasks you'll need to do. Then you can start either with the easiest tasks, or those that are absolutely necessary for the rest of things to work. If you're comfortable with menu programming as you say then you could start with that.

Note that in this list I wrote “cloning” for the projectiles. While it is possible to make a whole game with the pen, I think it's easier (and more “Scratch-esque”, imo) to just use sprite cloning appropriately. This way, if you needed e.g. 50 bones at specific locations and at specific times, then it's just a matter of cloning one bone sprite with different variables for their positions and spawning time etc. As an example, you can see the code for this project, a vertical shooter where I used cloning for just about everything.

Finally, in case you didn't know there's many helpful articles in the Scratch Wiki. You could read the one on Turn-Based RPGs, and then follow the links a t the bottom of that page to read more scripting and game design tutorials. (Keep in mind that Undertale is a very special sort of RPG, though – some people describe it as a RPG with “bullet hell” elements.) You can even search Undertale project in Scratch and see if any of them have attempted to recreate the battles, and then remix or take inspiration from them.

Hope this long rant was of at least some help. Your project sounds like a big one, so you might want to consider opening up a collab once you have the main ideas down.

Tater_Tot_Boi wrote:

big big chungus

technoguyx wrote:

There's not a single recipe to (re)create an RPG battle, but one principle that works for any programming task is the following: break up big problems into smaller parts, and then join those parts together. (This principle is called modular design and it works on many contexts.)

To find out what the “parts” should be, it's good to make a rough list of all the things your game should do. Some things I could think in the case of an Undertale clone in Scratch are:

(Before the battle)
+- Variable: HP.
+- Variable: LOVE.
+- List: Items.
+- ...etc.

Battle Start
+- Intro animation
+- Text dialogue
+- Character animation
+- Battle Menu
	+- Fight
		+- Quick-time event
	+- ...
	+- ...
	+- ...
+- Turn system
	+- What should the opponent do on their turn?
		+- Text blurbs
		+- Attack
			+- Projectiles: e.g. use cloning
			+- Controls for the player so they can dodge

This will give you an idea of the scale of your project and all the different tasks you'll need to do. Then you can start either with the easiest tasks, or those that are absolutely necessary for the rest of things to work. If you're comfortable with menu programming as you say then you could start with that.

Note that in this list I wrote “cloning” for the projectiles. While it is possible to make a whole game with the pen, I think it's easier (and more “Scratch-esque”, imo) to just use sprite cloning appropriately. This way, if you needed e.g. 50 bones at specific locations and at specific times, then it's just a matter of cloning one bone sprite with different variables for their positions and spawning time etc. As an example, you can see the code for this project, a vertical shooter where I used cloning for just about everything.

Finally, in case you didn't know there's many helpful articles in the Scratch Wiki. You could read the one on Turn-Based RPGs, and then follow the links a t the bottom of that page to read more scripting and game design tutorials. (Keep in mind that Undertale is a very special sort of RPG, though – some people describe it as a RPG with “bullet hell” elements.) You can even search Undertale project in Scratch and see if any of them have attempted to recreate the battles, and then remix or take inspiration from them.

Hope this long rant was of at least some help. Your project sounds like a big one, so you might want to consider opening up a collab once you have the main ideas down.

meep2322 wrote:

what is the first thing i need to do to make the torial boss fight?

Sans-the-skelly wrote:

I think you have to get a gif for the animation.