A proper image editor.

ijohn007

Hello,

I think we MUST scrap bitmap and vector. Here's why:

-The bitmap has a too low resolution.

-Pretty much nobody understands the vector.

What we need to do is to find the best of both and add a new editor with them.

-The res and some of the vector tools

-The simple use of bitmap

Please support,

ijohn007

Extension:

I also think there should be a pixel art editor, for low-res images

I know that the names make it sound realistic, but we need efficiency, not realism. How is a walking, orange, smiling cat realistic? –> :meow:

I also think we need to encourage better use of the tools, it hurts my eyes seeing the scribbles some people do, no offence.

Last edited by ijohn007 (Sept. 24, 2014 15:29:58)

MushroomMan99

I support. You can't use the paint or fill tools in vector and if you convert it to bitmap, a. the resolution is worse and b. it all combines into 1 image rather than all the separate parts in the vector. Yes, we definitely need this.

TimothyLawyer

Is there an image editor that has the qualities you would like to see in Scratch's?

ijohn007 wrote:
-The res and some of the vector tools

What is res?

ijohn007

What is res?

Shorthand for resolution

TimothyLawyer wrote:
Is there an image editor that has the qualities you would like to see in Scratch's?
ijohn007 wrote:
-The res and some of the vector tools

I don't really use image editors.

Last edited by ijohn007 (Sept. 23, 2014 17:12:12)

MushroomMan99

It should have the following:

Good resolution (Vector)
Editable images (Bitmap)
Separate parts of an image (Vector)
Changeable text (Vector)

ijohn007

MushroomMan99 wrote:
It should have the following:

Good resolution (Vector)
Editable images (Bitmap)
Separate parts of an image (Vector)
Changeable text (Vector)

Yup

ateesdalejr

You do not need to scrap the original image editor. It is very
helpful for beginning scratchers. If you do not want to use it. Use
an external vector or bitmap art program and upload images
to the scratch editor.

MushroomMan99

ateesdalejr wrote:
You do not need to scrap the original image editor. It is very
helpful for beginning scratchers. If you do not want to use it. Use
an external vector or bitmap art program and upload images
to the scratch editor.

You mean the one in Scratch 1.4? Good idea.

DanloVorje

The problem with “merging” bitmap and vector is that the two image types are stored in different ways; bitmaps are a set of colored pixels of fixed size, whereas vector images are a set of vertices of shapes that the program then interprets how to draw in pixels on the screen.

I think the current image editors are fine as they are; they're good, basic art programs that allow you to quickly whip up graphics for your projects. If you want something more powerful, I recommend GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) for bitmaps and Inkscape for vectors. Both of these are free and open-source. GIMP allows layering, text changes, and various cool effects, while Inkscape has a function that can approximate converting a bitmap image to a vector image.

As a side note (though still related to the topic), my favorite program for doing digital artwork is actually the Scratch vector editor; I find it more intuitive than Inkscape.

–Danlo

Blueinkproductions

What vector tools?

Thepuzzlegame

Definitely no support, vector cannot be merged with bitmap because of the way it works and vice versa. If you want to make higher quality art use an external photo editing program like gimp or adobe photoshop.

OmnipotentPotato

Thepuzzlegame wrote:
Definitely no support, vector cannot be merged with bitmap because of the way it works and vice versa. If you want to make higher quality art use an external photo editing program like gimp or adobe photoshop.

MegaApuTurkUltra

OmnipotentPotato wrote:
Thepuzzlegame wrote:
Definitely no support, vector cannot be merged with bitmap because of the way it works and vice versa. If you want to make higher quality art use an external photo editing program like gimp or adobe photoshop.

Agreed. No support.

ijohn007

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:
OmnipotentPotato wrote:
Thepuzzlegame wrote:
Definitely no support, vector cannot be merged with bitmap because of the way it works and vice versa. If you want to make higher quality art use an external photo editing program like gimp or adobe photoshop.
Agreed. No support.

Ok, an imaged editor with there features

ijohn007

ateesdalejr wrote:
You do not need to scrap the original image editor. It is very
helpful for beginning scratchers. If you do not want to use it. Use
an external vector or bitmap art program and upload images
to the scratch editor.

But, you upload an image it converts it to bitmap quality, which this suggestion is against.

New idea added btw!

VoltageGames

ijohn007 wrote:
Hello,

I think we MUST scrap bitmap and vector. Here's why:

-The bitmap has a too low resolution.

-Pretty much nobody understands the vector.

The italicized made me lol.
The bolded made me lol.
Bitmap is great if you know how to use it. Some people like the unique look of bitmap.
Vector is pretty easy. Easier than bitmap, if you ask me. I do 90% of my graphics in Vector, if not 100%.
If you don't like scratch editor, don't use it at all. Use a 3rd party editor like gimp.

ateesdalejr

DanloVorje wrote:
The problem with “merging” bitmap and vector is that the two image types are stored in different ways; bitmaps are a set of colored pixels of fixed size, whereas vector images are a set of vertices of shapes that the program then interprets how to draw in pixels on the screen.

I think the current image editors are fine as they are; they're good, basic art programs that allow you to quickly whip up graphics for your projects. If you want something more powerful, I recommend GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) for bitmaps and Inkscape for vectors. Both of these are free and open-source. GIMP allows layering, text changes, and various cool effects, while Inkscape has a function that can approximate converting a bitmap image to a vector image.

As a side note (though still related to the topic), my favorite program for doing digital artwork is actually the Scratch vector editor; I find it more intuitive than Inkscape.

–Danlo

Totally agreed to this.

MushroomMan99

VoltageGames wrote:
ijohn007 wrote:
Hello,

I think we MUST scrap bitmap and vector. Here's why:

-The bitmap has a too low resolution.

-Pretty much nobody understands the vector.
The italicized made me lol.
The bolded made me lol.
Bitmap is great if you know how to use it. Some people like the unique look of bitmap.
Vector is pretty easy. Easier than bitmap, if you ask me. I do 90% of my graphics in Vector, if not 100%.
If you don't like scratch editor, don't use it at all. Use a 3rd party editor like gimp.

This would not be something a New Scratcher would think of easily though

KingOfAwesome58219

No Support. Bitmap and Vector are designed like that on purpose, and I don't really see how vector is hard to use. I'd like that you could open up High-Resolution bitmap files into vector though, so that the High-Resolution would stay there, and not be pixelated by the low-resolution pixelyness of bitmap.

oromi

ijohn007 wrote:
Hello,

I think we MUST scrap bitmap and vector. Here's why:

-The bitmap has a too low resolution.

-Pretty much nobody understands the vector.

All of my wat

-Bitmap has a resolution of 480x360, the same size as the game window
-Vector is really easy one you try to use it

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