zedthehedgehog wrote:

Also what about old remixes, like one from 2012, or even 2018? Would the “Things that I Changed” be blank?

Things I Changed
This feature wasn't implemented before this point.
Please report this remix if it's unchanged.

Moonlight0619 wrote:

Mossy, would if it had a sensor that could sense if it is a exact copy of the original project? If it is not then it asked what you changed. If it is it will not let you share it. That would solve the problem.

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox wrote:

Moonlight0619 wrote:

Mossy, would if it had a sensor that could sense if it is a exact copy of the original project? If it is not then it asked what you changed. If it is it will not let you share it. That would solve the problem.

That wouldn't work. Someone could just add a single block that did nothing but technically changed the project.

Ex. they organized the scripts in a pattern if they weren't before, which really doesn't do anything.

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Zerofile wrote:

No support!

So what if someone remixes your project and changes nothing? so long as they don't receive double your attention I can't see the problem? People make copies to; save scores, have a more accessible version, play without cloud. If this were to be implemented they should surely mark projects as NFE instead of wiping it off scratch.

Please don't waste moderators time by mass reporting remixes and save it for non-remixed copies.

You aren't aware of how the Creative Commons Share Alike License works, read the terms of use

Zerofile wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Zerofile wrote:

No support!

So what if someone remixes your project and changes nothing? so long as they don't receive double your attention I can't see the problem? People make copies to; save scores, have a more accessible version, play without cloud. If this were to be implemented they should surely mark projects as NFE instead of wiping it off scratch.

Please don't waste moderators time by mass reporting remixes and save it for non-remixed copies.

You aren't aware of how the Creative Commons Share Alike License works, read the terms of use

not gonna lie I think the license doesn't agree with you:

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en

You are free to:

Share - Copy and redistribute

Adapt - remix, transform

Under the following terms:

You must give appropriate credit(that's why scratch gives a link at the top), provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.

Community Guidelines wrote:

Share.
You are free to remix projects, ideas, images, or anything else you find on Scratch – and anyone can use anything that you share. Be sure to give credit when you remix.

Zerofile wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Zerofile wrote:

No support!

So what if someone remixes your project and changes nothing? so long as they don't receive double your attention I can't see the problem? People make copies to; save scores, have a more accessible version, play without cloud. If this were to be implemented they should surely mark projects as NFE instead of wiping it off scratch.

Please don't waste moderators time by mass reporting remixes and save it for non-remixed copies.

You aren't aware of how the Creative Commons Share Alike License works, read the terms of use

not gonna lie I think the license doesn't agree with you:

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en

You are free to:

Share - Copy and redistribute

Adapt - remix, transform

Under the following terms:

You must give appropriate credit(that's why scratch gives a link at the top), provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.

Zerofile wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Zerofile wrote:

No support!

So what if someone remixes your project and changes nothing? so long as they don't receive double your attention I can't see the problem? People make copies to; save scores, have a more accessible version, play without cloud. If this were to be implemented they should surely mark projects as NFE instead of wiping it off scratch.

Please don't waste moderators time by mass reporting remixes and save it for non-remixed copies.

You aren't aware of how the Creative Commons Share Alike License works, read the terms of use

not gonna lie I think the license doesn't agree with you:

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en

You are free to:

Share - Copy and redistribute

Adapt - remix, transform

Under the following terms:

You must give appropriate credit(that's why scratch gives a link at the top), provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.

Zerofile wrote:

Also, where is this “Remixing and changing nothing at all is against the rules” can you provide a source?

What is a valid remix?

When deciding if something is or isn’t a valid remix, we consider if the changes made added something new to the project and were not clearly made to get around our guidelines on remixing. If someone has done something like only changing the title of a project, deleting the original creator’s username from the title page, or scribbling on top of someone else’s art, that is not considered valid. But if they did something like changing the sprite in a platformer or creating a new background for a pong game, that is a valid remix.

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I honestly dont see why the remix credit is not enough, people see it is by the original person

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I honestly dont see why the remix credit is not enough, people see it is by the original person

fdreerf wrote:

Zerofile wrote:

Also, where is this “Remixing and changing nothing at all is against the rules” can you provide a source?

What is a valid remix?

When deciding if something is or isn’t a valid remix, we consider if the changes made added something new to the project and were not clearly made to get around our guidelines on remixing. If someone has done something like only changing the title of a project, deleting the original creator’s username from the title page, or scribbling on top of someone else’s art, that is not considered valid. But if they did something like changing the sprite in a platformer or creating a new background for a pong game, that is a valid remix.

from this

Moonlight0619 wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I honestly dont see why the remix credit is not enough, people see it is by the original person

It hurts for the original creator of the project to see an exact copy because they work very hard on the project just to see it copied

Zerofile wrote:

Moonlight0619 wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I honestly dont see why the remix credit is not enough, people see it is by the original person

It hurts for the original creator of the project to see an exact copy because they work very hard on the project just to see it copied

They liked it so much they pinned it to their profile?

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.

it's credited automatically since it's a remix

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.

it's credited automatically since it's a remix

Yes…but what's even the point?

One thing I absolutely cannot stand is when someone remixes my project, changing nothing, and getting lots of praise. That doesn't make any sense. I report these comments, and they get taken down. The projects get taken down, but new ones appear, as if they learned nothing from the alert from the Scratch Team. It all boils down to a problem with respecting authority figures.

I think this idea could be beneficial to the Scratch website. It works better than “automatic crediting”, and seems like it could be a good resolution.

A question, though: What's to stop people from typing random characters like hfjkdnbfjkendjkdndndjiejenen to trigger a share? Don't say “They have to be real words”. Most of the users on Scratch are kids, and they can misspell things at times. Or, they have words that never appear in any sources, like names of people or places they created. I once created a game called “Ballercore” a while ago. It does not appear in any dictionary or source in any of existance.

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I honestly dont see why the remix credit is not enough, people see it is by the original person