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MrFluffyPenguins
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-InsanityPlays- wrote:

thr565ono wrote:

MeowyTitan08 wrote:

Why can't the humans do it?
Well, there are millions of scratchers, and less than 50 moderators, so they are busy people
Well there's the forum helpers and the community mods (archived forums).
Forum helpers and mini-mods can't do anything to remove inappropriate stuff, except for the Report button, which anyone could use.
And if they use the report button, then it makes the busy moderators do it.
geometric_ghast
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Honestly I'd just rather have more human mods, they'd do a better job then robots.
Bluebatstar
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No support, for the same reason as the above post. That, and there simpll isn't advanced enough technology to create actually good bots yet. They would either not work well enough and rarely remove projects/comments, or work too well and remove loads of projects/comments that don't deserve to be removed. And I can already imagine all of the complaints about them, like the complaints about Mass Reporting, for instance.
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-
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Just some background info, there is a website called google draw, where an AI can tell what you are writing. If google can do it, it is possible. I 1/2 support this because it could lead to bad stuff but I is easier because I have seen like 5 projects where inappropriate stuff is in infamous scratchers projects
fdreerf
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p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

Just some background info, there is a website called google draw, where an AI can tell what you are writing. If google can do it, it is possible.
Google QuickDraw and moderating Scratch are in entirely different fields. For one, Google has essentially infinite funds to train their AI, while Scratch does not have such luxury. But the main caveat is scope. In QuickDraw, you draw crude objects in short periods of time. How do you apply that to the infinitely larger complexities that can be made in a Scratch project?

Last edited by fdreerf (Sept. 2, 2020 15:50:35)

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-
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fdreerf wrote:

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

Just some background info, there is a website called google draw, where an AI can tell what you are writing. If google can do it, it is possible.
Google QuickDraw and moderating Scratch are in entirely different fields. For one, Google has essentially infinite funds to train their AI, while Scratch does not have such luxury. But the main caveat is scope. In QuickDraw, you draw crude objects in short periods of time. How do you apply that to the infinitely larger complexities that can be made in a Scratch project?
The bot would breeze through all screens possible as a conformation of share and it tells you if it sees something inappropriate, rather then blocking you. If you continue to share after the check and it isn't appropriate, you will get a worse consequence. It can't stop you from sharing or give you alerts though
fdreerf
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p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

Just some background info, there is a website called google draw, where an AI can tell what you are writing. If google can do it, it is possible.
Google QuickDraw and moderating Scratch are in entirely different fields. For one, Google has essentially infinite funds to train their AI, while Scratch does not have such luxury. But the main caveat is scope. In QuickDraw, you draw crude objects in short periods of time. How do you apply that to the infinitely larger complexities that can be made in a Scratch project?
The bot would breeze through all screens possible as a conformation of share and it tells you if it sees something inappropriate, rather then blocking you. If you continue to share after the check and it isn't appropriate, you will get a worse consequence. It can't stop you from sharing or give you alerts though
That would require petabytes of data to pull-off in a matter that is somewhat competent, requiring data for nearly every conceivable possibility.
Bluebatstar
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p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:

Just some background info, there is a website called google draw, where an AI can tell what you are writing. If google can do it, it is possible.
Google QuickDraw and moderating Scratch are in entirely different fields. For one, Google has essentially infinite funds to train their AI, while Scratch does not have such luxury. But the main caveat is scope. In QuickDraw, you draw crude objects in short periods of time. How do you apply that to the infinitely larger complexities that can be made in a Scratch project?
The bot would breeze through all screens possible as a conformation of share and it tells you if it sees something inappropriate, rather then blocking you. If you continue to share after the check and it isn't appropriate, you will get a worse consequence. It can't stop you from sharing or give you alerts though
I still don't think that's fully possible, like @fdreerf said. Scratch would have to develop a monitor to detect inappropriate images, sounds, text, ect. and the ST simply don't have enough funds to even make a decent one. On top of that, there is no way people would be happy with it, and I'm not sure that's even possible. And I bring up the point in my post again- I can already imagine the complaints.

And besides, the current Bad Word Detector isn't perfect and people already complain about that.
meh_name_not_jeff
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Maximouse wrote:

I don't think bots are smart enough to report inappropriate projects.
there deffentially smart enough
cheesyfriedeggs
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meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

Maximouse wrote:

I don't think bots are smart enough to report inappropriate projects.
there deffentially smart enough
Maybe bots on other websites. But Scratch bots aren't really that advanced yet.
meh_name_not_jeff
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scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
cheesyfriedeggs
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meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
The Scratch forums are still technically owned by Scratch.
meh_name_not_jeff
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cheesyfriedeggs wrote:

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
The Scratch forums are still technically owned by Scratch.
you are right but its powered by Your text to link here…
cheesyfriedeggs
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meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

cheesyfriedeggs wrote:

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
The Scratch forums are still technically owned by Scratch.
you are right but its powered by Your text to link here…
I know, but DjangoBB doesn't own the Scratch forums.
meh_name_not_jeff
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yep I know
cheesyfriedeggs
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meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

yep I know
Then why did you say

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link

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meh_name_not_jeff
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cheesyfriedeggs wrote:

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

yep I know
Then why did you say

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
I never said I said powered by
cheesyfriedeggs
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meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

cheesyfriedeggs wrote:

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

yep I know
Then why did you say

meh_name_not_jeff wrote:

scratch forums aren't even scratch there powered by hold on 2 secs while I get link
I never said I said powered by
Why did you say “scratch forums aren't even scratch”, then?
Bluebatstar
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Ok. The scratch forums being powered by DjangoBB has nothing to do with the original suggestion. Can we get back on topic, please?

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