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moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

If you have a popular or good project, more than likely, you're going to get exact copy remixes and it's a PAIN to report every single one of them. You can remix exact copies faster than you can report them, so here's my idea to help:

When you remix a game, it is exactly like normal. It's an unshared copy of the original that you get to do anything with. When you click share, instead of sharing, you get a text bubble you need to type in asking what you changed. If the person decides to enter without typing anything or the text is too short (to prevent people from just typing a random letter to pop up the share button), the project will not share and there will be a message saying: “Making exact copies of a project is not allowed on Scratch. Please change something to share your project and credit the original project”.

This part isn't really necessary, but I feel like whatever you typed in the box will automatically be added to the notes and credits.
Vercte
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

Support. This is a straightforward solution, is easy to understand, and can banish a lot of these copies. I think the Notes and Credits idea should also be part of this.

Maybe a length requirement of 20 letters?
(although this won't fix downloading the file and uploading it)
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

Vercte wrote:

Support. This is a straightforward solution, is easy to understand, and can banish a lot of these copies. I think the Notes and Credits idea should also be part of this.

Maybe a length requirement of 20 letters?
(although this won't fix downloading the file and uploading it)

Unfortunately, yeah. I don't think there's anyway to fix the downloading besides a script that defines a project as a remix. So you're on someone's project and you download it. In the Scratch Project file, there's a code that says it's a remix and it has the link to the original, so when you upload it, it sees the code and automatically “remixes” the original project.
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

Bump
Yeetoburro1
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
Vibrato
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
it's credited automatically since it's a remix
Moonlight0619
Scratcher
100+ posts

Remix Improvements

moss-shadow wrote:

If you have a popular or good project, more than likely, you're going to get exact copy remixes and it's a PAIN to report every single one of them. You can remix exact copies faster than you can report them, so here's my idea to help:

When you remix a game, it is exactly like normal. It's an unshared copy of the original that you get to do anything with. When you click share, instead of sharing, you get a text bubble you need to type in asking what you changed. If the person decides to enter without typing anything or the text is too short (to prevent people from just typing a random letter to pop up the share button), the project will not share and there will be a message saying: “Making exact copies of a project is not allowed on Scratch. Please change something to share your project and credit the original project”.

This part isn't really necessary, but I feel like whatever you typed in the box will automatically be added to the notes and credits.
Yes this would be helpful! I just wish there was a why to stop uploading copies with out taking away uploading
Burgher1679
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

support.

for peoples (like grifpatch)that gets millions of remixes with nothing changed…
geometric_ghast
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

I could just download the project to my PC, and create a new project. Exact remix. Anyway, support, because it's a very straightforward solution, not confusing, etc.
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
it's credited automatically since it's a remix

Credited or not, exact copies are against the guidelines, and also, the remixed by thing doesn't actually count since you still need to credit the original Scratcher.
Yeetoburro1
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

moss-shadow wrote:

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
it's credited automatically since it's a remix

Credited or not, exact copies are against the guidelines, and also, the remixed by thing doesn't actually count since you still need to credit the original Scratcher.
I think it counts, it's crediting the original scratcher.
Bluebatstar
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
it's credited automatically since it's a remix

Credited or not, exact copies are against the guidelines, and also, the remixed by thing doesn't actually count since you still need to credit the original Scratcher.
I think it counts, it's crediting the original scratcher.
Yes, I'm certain it counts. I've seen ST members mention this on multiple occasions.
mlcreater
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

Vibrato wrote:

moss-shadow wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

I'm fine with people copying my games if it's a remix

It's against the guidelines to make exact copies.
it's credited automatically since it's a remix
One still must change something.
Steve0Greatness
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

it would be better for It to compare it to the original, if it's exactly the same, It will tell them,

Scratch.Mit.Edu wrote:

Please change something before sharing the project
mtech22
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

Support. This would benifit so that there are not remixes that change nothing and those “repost if you agree” projects. Although you can backpack an asset, delete it, then put it back and it would be a way to trick that system.
mlcreater
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

What if someone shares an exact copy remix and just writes something false?

user who copied a project wrote:

I added Mario. He has a 1/1000 chance of appearing each second.
What if someone shares an exact copy remix and writes something that does not imply any changes?

user who copied a project wrote:

Decipher this:
Ifmmp!xpsme"!J!mjlf!Tdsbudi!Dbu/

(edit)
The answer was “Hello world! I like Scratch Cat.”, which is true whether or not the remix changed anything.

Last edited by mlcreater (Aug. 26, 2020 16:30:01)

moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Remix Improvements

mlcreater wrote:

What if someone shares an exact copy remix and just writes something false?

user who copied a project wrote:

I added Mario. He has a 1/1000 chance of appearing each second.
What if someone shares an exact copy remix and writes something that does not imply any changes?

user who copied a project wrote:

Decipher this:
Ifmmp!xpsme"!J!mjlf!Tdsbudi!Dbu/

(edit)
The answer was “Hello world! I like Scratch Cat.”, which is true whether or not the remix changed anything.

It's still better than nothing
-InsanityPlays-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

Q: “What did you change?”
A: “hippity hoppity i stole this man's property”
No seriously people would find ways to get around this.
mybearworld
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remix Improvements

Support! Just some additions:
Whatever the user writes is shown like this:

Thanks to example-user for the original project Example
The change(s) the user made is/are:
Example Change
[Report]


You could easily report the text here.
I'd that would happen I'd 100 percent support.

Last edited by mybearworld (Aug. 26, 2020 21:10:03)

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