R_EconomicsFair wrote:

--Explosion-- wrote:

R_EconomicsFair wrote:

bump.

It was already on the first page of the forums lol
Bumping should only be used after 24 hours since the last post or after the topic is behind the first page of forum posts.

Oh i didn’t know, thanks for saying.

It's fine! You won't get banned or anything! (unless you bump topics like every 2 minutes or something in which case it would count as spam.)

--Explosion-- wrote:

@Nambaseking01 You always provide a different point of view in a good way! Perhaps “_pride_” would be fine? I understand what you mean about it being “_LGBTQ+_” but aren't there SO many other projects and even ST announcements that use this exact term

From a UI standpoint, “_pride_” is much more easier to remember for children. LGBTQ+ is going to mess kids up when they type it, especially with that plus at the end (I actually made a typo the first time around, haha).

bump

DownsGameClub wrote:

--Explosion-- wrote:

@Nambaseking01 You always provide a different point of view in a good way! Perhaps “_pride_” would be fine? I understand what you mean about it being “_LGBTQ+_” but aren't there SO many other projects and even ST announcements that use this exact term

From a UI standpoint, “_pride_” is much more easier to remember for children. LGBTQ+ is going to mess kids up when they type it, especially with that plus at the end (I actually made a typo the first time around, haha).

I guess so, also as Nambaseking01 said, “_pride_” might beb better for other reasons as well.

bump

Iam4pride wrote:

Yes, I think there should be a pride flag, but maybe not all of the flags, just the general one, because there are so many. So maybe just the rainbow one.

Yeah

Semi-support, it would be really nice but there could also be transphobes

Zelfen wrote:

Semi-support, it would be really nice but there could also be transphobes

What do you mean?

ilovecoding10 wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Semi-support, it would be really nice but there could also be transphobes

What do you mean?

People who don't like the LGBTQ+ in general

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride flag emojis on scratch!

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride fl

What's up with the blockspam?

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride fl

What's up with the blockspam?

I wasn't blockspamming! I was making it rainbow! This discussion is about adding pride flag emojis, can't I make a rainbow?.

Zelfen wrote:

ilovecoding10 wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Semi-support, it would be really nice but there could also be transphobes

What do you mean?

People who don't like the LGBTQ+ in general

Ok

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

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I wasn't blockspamming! I was making it rainbow! This discussion is about adding pride flag emojis, can't I make a rainbow?.

Okay, but still blockspamming. I think you were trying to do this:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride fl

What's up with the blockspam?

I wasn't blockspamming! I was making it rainbow! This discussion is about adding pride flag emojis, can't I make a rainbow?.

Okay, but still blockspamming.

What about

ilovecoding10 wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride fl

What's up with the blockspam?

I wasn't blockspamming! I was making it rainbow! This discussion is about adding pride flag emojis, can't I make a rainbow?.

Okay, but still blockspamming.

What about

That's better as long as you don't overuse it

Zelfen wrote:

ilovecoding10 wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

Zelfen wrote:

Catfish_of_the_night wrote:

YEAH! it'd be really good to have pride fl

What's up with the blockspam?

I wasn't blockspamming! I was making it rainbow! This discussion is about adding pride flag emojis, can't I make a rainbow?.

Okay, but still blockspamming.

What about

That's better as long as you don't overuse it

Ok

No Support.

What Scratch *really* needs is support for normal emoji. I'm fairly certain the reason they don't is because they don't properly support 4 byte UTF-8 characters. This is why emojis break the forums and don't work in comments.

Now, if they were to support proper emojis, that immediately lets people use the Rainbow Flag Emoji and Transgender Flag Emoji because both of those are within Unicode.

Also just not having support for 4 byte characters is a bad idea in general. At some point Unicode is going to have to allocate space in that range for much more important characters than Emoji. It's like supporting TLSv1.3, HTTP/2, modern compression methods and strong preferred encryption ciphers, are they a necessity right now, no. Will it make keeping the site from breaking further down the line much easier? Oh yes.

Anyway, for the most part, I'm kind of against implementing proprietary “”“emoji”“” that aren't really specific to a site. The Scratch Cat Comment Emotes are cool and fine, but considering that the Unicode Consortium has already ratified emojis related to LGBT stuffs (in particular, Rainbow Flag Emoji and Transgender Flag Emoji, and there's probably going to be more in the future now that the latter is an actual Emoji within Emoji 13) it kinda seems like reinventing the wheel to have native ones for those kinda things on Scratch?

Having proper Emoji support is a good thing. I know some people are vehemently against the usage of Emoji within communication, but love em or hate em, they're a standard within Unicode and the only reason a lot of sites still don't support them is because those sites are running systems that have been outdated for years. 4 byte characters are becoming more and more used, and the vast majority of emoji are 4 byte characters, it's only time until things not as easily dismissable as “it's only Emoji” stop working.

Scratch really needs to have proper support for Emojis site-wide. It'd solve this suggestion, fix that horrible bug that affects the forums and also just be a good change in general.

The only thing I fear is that there's a technical reason they can't support 4 byte characters and that is worrying.

ElsieBreeze wrote:

No Support.

What Scratch *really* needs is support for normal emoji. I'm fairly certain the reason they don't is because they don't properly support 4 byte UTF-8 characters. This is why emojis break the forums and don't work in comments.

Now, if they were to support proper emojis, that immediately lets people use the Rainbow Flag Emoji and Transgender Flag Emoji because both of those are within Unicode.

Also just not having support for 4 byte characters is a bad idea in general. At some point Unicode is going to have to allocate space in that range for much more important characters than Emoji. It's like supporting TLSv1.3, HTTP/2, modern compression methods and strong preferred encryption ciphers, are they a necessity right now, no. Will it make keeping the site from breaking further down the line much easier? Oh yes.

Okay, Unicode is a great idea.