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MrFluffyPenguins
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

“You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.”

You can give all the tools in the world, but some people will still not be interested in TASes. To me, it sounds like the most boring waste of time of making a computer play something for you than just playing it yourself. There are programs readily available for my Super Nintendo emulator that will make the game play itself, but I'd rather play it myself.

Likewise, there are art programs everywhere, and yet not everyone is an artist, which is already an extremely broad subject on its own. Every modern computer comes with a word processor, but only a few are authors. Simply providing the tools isn't enough. You need to somehow convince everyone to do your very silly hobby, and all I can say is, good luck.
The Scratch team should call most TASvideos members to convince scratchers that TAS is a cool thing
TAS can be cool, doesn't mean it isn't useless and unnecessary.
TheNintendoFan2020
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

“You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.”

You can give all the tools in the world, but some people will still not be interested in TASes. To me, it sounds like the most boring waste of time of making a computer play something for you than just playing it yourself. There are programs readily available for my Super Nintendo emulator that will make the game play itself, but I'd rather play it myself.

Likewise, there are art programs everywhere, and yet not everyone is an artist, which is already an extremely broad subject on its own. Every modern computer comes with a word processor, but only a few are authors. Simply providing the tools isn't enough. You need to somehow convince everyone to do your very silly hobby, and all I can say is, good luck.
The Scratch team should call most TASvideos members to convince scratchers that TAS is a cool thing
TAS can be cool, doesn't mean it isn't useless and unnecessary.
This can sometimes be useful or nesscary if nobody can beat a kaizo game, then a TAS can step up and do it.
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

This can sometimes be useful or nesscary if nobody can beat a kaizo game, then a TAS can step up and do it.
“What have you accomplished this X?”
"Oh, I beat this really hard game!“
”Um, good for you, I gues-“
”Well not beat it myself, I made a computer beat it for me!“
”Oka-“
”Yeah, someone made a game impossible for a human to beat, so I stepped in!"
1132262
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

1132262 wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

“You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.”

You can give all the tools in the world, but some people will still not be interested in TASes. To me, it sounds like the most boring waste of time of making a computer play something for you than just playing it yourself. There are programs readily available for my Super Nintendo emulator that will make the game play itself, but I'd rather play it myself.

Likewise, there are art programs everywhere, and yet not everyone is an artist, which is already an extremely broad subject on its own. Every modern computer comes with a word processor, but only a few are authors. Simply providing the tools isn't enough. You need to somehow convince everyone to do your very silly hobby, and all I can say is, good luck.
The Scratch team should call most TASvideos members to convince scratchers that TAS is a cool thing
“So we noticed you make tas videos”
“yeah”
“and we were were wondering if you could help promote–”
“go away”
didn't think of that, other ways to convince scratchers to use the TAS Editor?
no
TheNintendoFan2020
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

fdreerf wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

This can sometimes be useful or nesscary if nobody can beat a kaizo game, then a TAS can step up and do it.
“What have you accomplished this X?”
"Oh, I beat this really hard game!“
”Um, good for you, I gues-“
”Well not beat it myself, I made a computer beat it for me!“
”Oka-“
”Yeah, someone made a game impossible for a human to beat, so I stepped in!"
TAS is not a computer playing itself, People still create TAS'es.
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

This can sometimes be useful or nesscary if nobody can beat a kaizo game, then a TAS can step up and do it.
“What have you accomplished this X?”
"Oh, I beat this really hard game!“
”Um, good for you, I gues-“
”Well not beat it myself, I made a computer beat it for me!“
”Oka-“
”Yeah, someone made a game impossible for a human to beat, so I stepped in!"
TAS is not a computer playing itself, People still create TAS'es.
1132262
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

This can sometimes be useful or nesscary if nobody can beat a kaizo game, then a TAS can step up and do it.
“What have you accomplished this X?”
"Oh, I beat this really hard game!“
”Um, good for you, I gues-“
”Well not beat it myself, I made a computer beat it for me!“
”Oka-“
”Yeah, someone made a game impossible for a human to beat, so I stepped in!"
TAS is not a computer playing itself, People still create TAS'es.
Which is irrelevant if nobody on Scratch wants to.
MrFluffyPenguins
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
TheNintendoFan2020
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
sure! it would just be cool to have a TAS Editor in scratch

Last edited by TheNintendoFan2020 (June 27, 2020 22:13:22)

MrFluffyPenguins
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
sure! it would just be cool to have a TAS Editor in scratch
So, you can code your own TAS the way Scratch is right now, right?
A TAS Editor would let you code a TAS in Scratch, right?

So either way, you can make a TAS.
TheNintendoFan2020
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
sure! it would just be cool to have a TAS Editor in scratch
So, you can code your own TAS the way Scratch is right now, right?
A TAS Editor would let you code a TAS in Scratch, right?

So either way, you can make a TAS.
yes but also no
DifferentDance8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
sure! it would just be cool to have a TAS Editor in scratch
So, you can code your own TAS the way Scratch is right now, right?
A TAS Editor would let you code a TAS in Scratch, right?

So either way, you can make a TAS.
yes but also no
Sadly, we hit a one sided dead end here.
We could try to bring back speedruns and or ACE.
MrFluffyPenguins
Scratcher
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

TheNintendoFan2020 wrote:

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Couldn't you code your own TAS?
sure! it would just be cool to have a TAS Editor in scratch
So, you can code your own TAS the way Scratch is right now, right?
A TAS Editor would let you code a TAS in Scratch, right?

So either way, you can make a TAS.
yes but also no
(offtopic)i was going to post an image of that pirate guy saying “well yes but actually no” but scratch no like free no login hosting sites(/offtopic)

Last edited by MrFluffyPenguins (June 28, 2020 13:37:38)

Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

TAS Editor

While it might appear that way sometimes from looking at the front page, Scratch is not a gaming system. It's a programming language capable of making all kinds of projects - not just games. The main goal of Scratch is to provide a programming language that is fun to use and easy to learn. Providing a specialized editor for optimizing playing of a specific kind of project doesn't seem like it would help further our educational goals or have broad appeal. So, no, I don't see us doing this. Keep thinking though, and thanks for sharing your idea

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