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- AonymousGuy
- Scratcher
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Did I do the right thing?
That doesn't matter. Literally. The license Scratch projects are shared under allows anyone to use them, even those who you are mad at.Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)
I'm still very angry at the user.
- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
That doesn't matter. Literally. The license Scratch projects are shared under allows anyone to use them, even those who you are mad at.Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)
I'm still very angry at the user.
Anyone could use my project, but they just barely altered my code.
I have a vector sprite of myself in there. The user did not even take that out and change it into their picture of themselves. They did not alter the instructions, they did not alter anything. They did not alter the descriptions of the different modes (Online, Busy, Offline, At School, Asleep). They flat out copied it and made one change that's too small.
- Blueinkproductions
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” is something you might want to think about.
Generation 2: the first time you see this copy and paste it on top of your sig in the scratch forums and increase generation by 1. Social experiment.
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Here's a hint: support = support.
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- AonymousGuy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
No, that change is not too small. Almost any change is allowed - even if it was as simple as inverting the colors on one sprite. Or removing one if block that definitely changes the flow of the project.That doesn't matter. Literally. The license Scratch projects are shared under allows anyone to use them, even those who you are mad at.Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)
I'm still very angry at the user.
Anyone could use my project, but they just barely altered my code.
I have a vector sprite of myself in there. The user did not even take that out and change it into their picture of themselves. They did not alter the instructions, they did not alter anything. They did not alter the descriptions of the different modes (Online, Busy, Offline, At School, Asleep). They flat out copied it and made one change that's too small.
And even if the change was too small, the answer to the original question is still “no”, because you should first politely ask the user to change something before reporting it.
- Firedrake969
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
With a change, it's not copying.“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” is something you might want to think about.
It's not imitation. It's copying my project.
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- AonymousGuy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
It's not copying. There is a legitimate change.“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” is something you might want to think about.
It's not imitation. It's copying my project.
In fact, the change even shows in the JSON:
["doIf",["=", ["getUserName"], "TheHockeyist"],[]
Last edited by AonymousGuy (Aug. 21, 2014 23:23:19)
- Firedrake969
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
HAHAHAHAHAHA I NINJA'D YOUIt's not copying. There is a legitimate change.“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” is something you might want to think about.
It's not imitation. It's copying my project.
….sorry
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EDIT: Then you edited, so never mind
Last edited by Firedrake969 (Aug. 21, 2014 23:23:49)
'17 rickoid
bf97b44a7fbd33db070f6ade2b7dc549
- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
No, that change is not too small. Almost any change is allowed - even if it was as simple as inverting the colors on one sprite. Or removing one if block that definitely changes the flow of the project.That doesn't matter. Literally. The license Scratch projects are shared under allows anyone to use them, even those who you are mad at.Removing an if block is still legitimate (and can sometimes dramatically alter the program)
I'm still very angry at the user.
Anyone could use my project, but they just barely altered my code.
I have a vector sprite of myself in there. The user did not even take that out and change it into their picture of themselves. They did not alter the instructions, they did not alter anything. They did not alter the descriptions of the different modes (Online, Busy, Offline, At School, Asleep). They flat out copied it and made one change that's too small.
And even if the change was too small, the answer to the original question is still “no”, because you should first politely ask the user to change something before reporting it.
Users should have the right to report a remix which they think is just a copy of their project plus minor changes which the users deems are not enough of a change to be different from their project. (Should I make a project explaining my rules for remixing and what is and isn't okay with me? For me, my rule is simply this: You can take one of my scripts or sprites, but not the whole project.)
- AonymousGuy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
Your rules don't matter. That's saying that those who hate recoloring have the right to take down any recolors. Users should have the right to report a remix which they think is just a copy of their project plus minor changes which the users deems are not enough of a change to be different from their project. (Should I make a project explaining my rules for remixing and what is and isn't okay with me? For me, my rule is simply this: You can take one of my scripts or sprites, but not the whole project.)
Which they don't.
- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
It's not copying. There is a legitimate change.“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” is something you might want to think about.
It's not imitation. It's copying my project.
In fact, the change even shows in the JSON:doesn't exist in the remix.["doIf",["=", ["getUserName"], "TheHockeyist"],[]
It is a legitimate change, but for me it's not enough to be classified as something completely different. For my eyes, it's still a flat out copy plus a small change. But the change is not enough for me to say “Yes, it's a different project.”
- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
Your rules don't matter. That's saying that those who hate recoloring have the right to take down any recolors. Users should have the right to report a remix which they think is just a copy of their project plus minor changes which the users deems are not enough of a change to be different from their project. (Should I make a project explaining my rules for remixing and what is and isn't okay with me? For me, my rule is simply this: You can take one of my scripts or sprites, but not the whole project.)
Which they don't.
This is going to get heated. I am about to explode, so I'll try to keep things under control. And if their project is basically a copy, then I do not approve of it.
- AonymousGuy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
The best idea then is to wait and see if the project gets removed. If it does, then yay for you, your opinion is in line with that of the ST. If it's not removed, then that means its a legitimate remix, regardless of whether or not you approve of it.Your rules don't matter. That's saying that those who hate recoloring have the right to take down any recolors. Users should have the right to report a remix which they think is just a copy of their project plus minor changes which the users deems are not enough of a change to be different from their project. (Should I make a project explaining my rules for remixing and what is and isn't okay with me? For me, my rule is simply this: You can take one of my scripts or sprites, but not the whole project.)
Which they don't.
This is going to get heated. I am about to explode, so I'll try to keep things under control. And if their project is basically a copy, then I do not approve of it.
- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
The best idea then is to wait and see if the project gets removed. If it does, then yay for you, your opinion is in line with that of the ST. If it's not removed, then that means its a legitimate remix, regardless of whether or not you approve of it.Your rules don't matter. That's saying that those who hate recoloring have the right to take down any recolors. Users should have the right to report a remix which they think is just a copy of their project plus minor changes which the users deems are not enough of a change to be different from their project. (Should I make a project explaining my rules for remixing and what is and isn't okay with me? For me, my rule is simply this: You can take one of my scripts or sprites, but not the whole project.)
Which they don't.
This is going to get heated. I am about to explode, so I'll try to keep things under control. And if their project is basically a copy, then I do not approve of it.
I had reported it with the reason I stated in the first post. I am hoping it gets removed.
- Paddle2See
- Scratch Team
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
It does sound to me as though the person made a substantial change to the code - it now acts differently than it did. On the other hand, if 99% of the code is yours, you can certainly ask for more credit than just the automatic link. It would be nice if the remixer were to mention that the code is yours - and that all they did was change it so that it worked with other people.
I say “it would be nice” - not “they must” - because I'm not sure it's required that they give it to you. But it's certainly not okay to claim credit for work that is not yours. It would seem to me if you politely asked for acknowledgement that almost all the code is yours - it would strengthen your position if your request was ignored or deleted.
I say “it would be nice” - not “they must” - because I'm not sure it's required that they give it to you. But it's certainly not okay to claim credit for work that is not yours. It would seem to me if you politely asked for acknowledgement that almost all the code is yours - it would strengthen your position if your request was ignored or deleted.
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- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
It does sound to me as though the person made a substantial change to the code - it now acts differently than it did. On the other hand, if 99% of the code is yours, you can certainly ask for more credit than just the automatic link. It would be nice if the remixer were to mention that the code is yours - and that all they did was change it so that it worked with other people.
I say “it would be nice” - not “they must” - because I'm not sure it's required that they give it to you. But it's certainly not okay to claim credit for work that is not yours. It would seem to me if you politely asked for acknowledgement that almost all the code is yours - it would strengthen your position if your request was ignored or deleted.
Will do.
EDIT: Oh wait, I already reported the project. But the user does need to give me more credit… for just about everything. If they refuse, then I ask it be taken down.
Last edited by TheHockeyist (Aug. 21, 2014 23:42:59)
- Paddle2See
- Scratch Team
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
I notice that they ignored the Notes and Credits area - just filling it with spam characters. That's not a good thing for their credibility - we put those fields there for a reason and even went so far as to require that they be filled with something.
I've left a comment on the project explaining that the Notes and Credits should be filled out and it should be explained what was done to the remix project from the original.
I've left a comment on the project explaining that the Notes and Credits should be filled out and it should be explained what was done to the remix project from the original.
Scratch Team Member, kayak and pickleball enthusiast, cat caregiver.
This is my forum signature! On a forum post, it is okay for Scratchers to advertise in their forum signature. The signature is the stuff that shows up below the horizontal line on the post. It will show up on every post I make.
(credit to Za-Chary)
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- TheHockeyist
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Did I do the right thing?
I notice that they ignored the Notes and Credits area - just filling it with spam characters. That's not a good thing for their credibility - we put those fields there for a reason and even went so far as to require that they be filled with something.
I've left a comment on the project explaining that the Notes and Credits should be filled out and it should be explained what was done to the remix project from the original.
Thank you.
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