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LankyBox01
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Maximouse wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

jettypumpkin07 wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
It could be because of the fact that deleted projects get moved to the ‘Trash’ folder in My Stuff.
You have to empty the Trash folder now and again to make your projects disappear (although they could still be archived elsewhere).
I did.
It seems deleted now.
The scratch gui is for recovering projects, thats why! But it should only be for the ST and they need to limit access to normal scratchers
cozycabin
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LankyBox01 wrote:

Maximouse wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

jettypumpkin07 wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
It could be because of the fact that deleted projects get moved to the ‘Trash’ folder in My Stuff.
You have to empty the Trash folder now and again to make your projects disappear (although they could still be archived elsewhere).
I did.
It seems deleted now.
The scratch gui is for recovering projects, thats why! But it should only be for the ST and they need to limit access to normal scratchers

Agreed.
fdreerf
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Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
Does that me we could potentially find kaj's projects?
Maximouse
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Spaceflyer234 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
Does that me we could potentially find kaj's projects?
Yes, I have found 1 already found one.
How did you know it was by kaj?
jettypumpkin07
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Maximouse wrote:

It seems deleted now.
Well, it's not like you can just click on some random blue text and time-travel back to 20 years ago when Google just became popular…

Last edited by jettypumpkin07 (June 8, 2020 00:49:05)

LankyBox01
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jettypumpkin07 wrote:

Well, it's not like you can just click on some random blue text and time-travel back to 20 years ago when Google just became popular…
Blue_Science
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LankyBox01 wrote:

BuT iT cAn ReVeAl PeRsOnAl InFo
Why would you want to put personal info in a project anyway ? If you share it, you break the guidelines. What's the purpose of keeping personal info in a freaking Scratch project ? Just don't. Put. It. In. There !

LankyBox01 wrote:

But can this only be for the ST? it shouldn't be for normal scratchers!
They can see every unshared project they like and that's not fair!
I don't see how this is problematic or “unfair”. What do you fear ? That people steal your code ? Scratch is made to be open anyway, so everyone will see it when you share the project anyway. Also for targetting a specific person you'd need to know the exact ID of the project: good luck.
Blue_Science
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Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
It now show a blank project. I assume it has been deleted since then ? Can we please have validation this is the case ?
LankyBox01
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Blue_Science wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

Problem with downloading: they stay on the servers when you empty trash. I guess you need to remove all sprites, sounds, and backdrops from each project… Actually, I'm not sure. Maybe they stay a couple of times on the servers before they permanently get deleted? I permanently deleted this project, on my test account.
It now show a blank project. I assume it has been deleted since then ? Can we please have validation this is the case ?
If the project gets deleted, you can still see it! That's what the GUI is for. Recovering projects!

And if you don't have a paper, LIKE A DUMB PERSON, you can write your log in data to a website there, i have an alt acount with like 2k projects unshared and idk what is in there
Blue_Science
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jettypumpkin07 wrote:

Well, it's not like you can just click on some random blue text and time-travel back to 20 years ago when Google just became popular…
What does this have to do with this conversation ?
LankyBox01
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Blue_Science wrote:

jettypumpkin07 wrote:

Well, it's not like you can just click on some random blue text and time-travel back to 20 years ago when Google just became popular…
What does this have to do with this conversation ?
It was supposed to quote someone
TheNintendoFan2020
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Game Leakers are going to be happy.
Blue_Science
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LankyBox01 wrote:

Blue_Science wrote:

It now show a blank project. I assume it has been deleted since then ? Can we please have validation this is the case ?
If the project gets deleted, you can still see it! That's what the GUI is for. Recovering projects!

And if you don't have a paper, LIKE A DUMB PERSON, you can write your log in data to a website there, i have an alt acount with like 2k projects unshared and idk what is in there
No, the Scratch GUI was never made to recover projects. Initially it was a preview for Scratch 3 (like a beta release), it just never got disabled afterwards. It is also not the only place where you can view unshared projects.
@Flowermanvista, @Boomer001 and @Spaceflyer234 already explained it to you. So maybe you should think twice before saying people are stupid.

If you put sensitive data in a Scratch project and it gets stolen, you are entirely responsible. Scratch is not meant to be a secure storage system. Let me repeat that: SCRATCH IS NOT A SECURE STORAGE SYSTEM ! Do not put personal information in there !
Blue_Science
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LankyBox01 wrote:

If the project gets deleted, you can still see it! That's what the GUI is for. Recovering projects!
Not to mention the project seems to actually have been deleted. I'm waiting @Boomer001 to confirm that.

Last edited by Blue_Science (June 8, 2020 01:29:44)

jettypumpkin07
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jettypumpkin07 meant:

Maximouse wrote:

It seems deleted now.
Well, it's not like you can just click on some random blue text and time-travel back to 20 years ago when Google just became popular…
Yes, I quoted myself. Okay?

Last edited by jettypumpkin07 (June 8, 2020 00:55:23)

jettypumpkin07
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So this ‘Empty Trash’ message is a lie?
It does say that the projects will be deleted for good.
LankyBox01
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jettypumpkin07 wrote:

So this ‘Empty Trash’ message is a lie?
It does say that the projects will be deleted for good.
They are moved to a place called the “bin” where all the comments, posts, projects, studios are moved when deleted
Blue_Science
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jettypumpkin07 wrote:

So this ‘Empty Trash’ message is a lie?
It does say that the projects will be deleted for good.
I think I didn't explain that clearly. It seems like the project actually got deleted from the server. We're waiting for confirmation from @Boomer001:

Currently, the link goes to a blank project.
  • If the project had other contents than that before getting removed, it means everything actually got deleted from the server. All good.
  • Else, we can't really tell; my guess is that deleted projects get replaced by a blank one.

EDIT:

Or maybe you are talking about the wayback machine thing ? I'd just like to point out this isn't special to Scratch but applies to everything on the web: once you post something, someone can just grab it and you have no control over it. I doubt Scratch projects would work in the wayback machine, though.

Last edited by Blue_Science (June 8, 2020 01:38:04)

Blue_Science
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LankyBox01 wrote:

They are moved to a place called the “bin” where all the comments, posts, projects, studios are moved when deleted
Please, do you have any evidence of what you're saying ? I'm curious to know where you heard that.

Last edited by Blue_Science (June 8, 2020 01:42:41)

Blue_Science
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LankyBox01 wrote:

(…) And if you don't have a paper, LIKE A DUMB PERSON, you can write your log in data to a website there, i have an alt acount with like 2k projects unshared and idk what is in there
Btw if you want to store credentials on the cloud you should really only be putting them in a dedicated password manager.

Mainly, you should not put them in Dropbox or Google Drive, as these are not secure enough to store sensitive information. The same goes for Scratch, obviously

But I think the best option is still to use a thumb drive

Last edited by Blue_Science (June 8, 2020 01:44:39)

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