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GuineaGod
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

MagicMaster14 wrote:

GuineaGod wrote:

I think it would be quite possible,
the hard thing would be getting a platformer that responds to the Nintendo Switch,
and getting the company to agree… etc.

sooo support or no support

What do you mean?
xXRedTheCoderXx
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

Za-Chary wrote:

I don't think that would necessarily change anything. I've heard before that Scratch 3.0 doesn't work well on an Xbox or a 3DS. Which is understandable, of course, since those systems are not intended to be high-performing Internet browsers.
I thought about that and, yeah, you're right. Scratch doesn't work on my PS4 at all.

So, no support. Sorry, but this feature has many issues (as stated by other Scratchers above,) and doesn't seem quite useful for Scratch.
GuineaGod
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I don't think that would necessarily change anything. I've heard before that Scratch 3.0 doesn't work well on an Xbox or a 3DS. Which is understandable, of course, since those systems are not intended to be high-performing Internet browsers.
I thought about that and, yeah, you're right. Scratch doesn't work on my PS4 at all.

So, no support. Sorry, but this feature has many issues (as stated by other Scratchers above,) and doesn't seem quite useful for Scratch.

Not PS4, that will be literally impossible. We need a platform that responds to Nintendo…
xXRedTheCoderXx
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

GuineaGod wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I don't think that would necessarily change anything. I've heard before that Scratch 3.0 doesn't work well on an Xbox or a 3DS. Which is understandable, of course, since those systems are not intended to be high-performing Internet browsers.
I thought about that and, yeah, you're right. Scratch doesn't work on my PS4 at all.

So, no support. Sorry, but this feature has many issues (as stated by other Scratchers above,) and doesn't seem quite useful for Scratch.

Not PS4, that will be literally impossible. We need a platform that responds to Nintendo…
Did you even read to what I was responding too?
Jeffalo
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

we don't even have netflix on the switch yet, slow down.

firstly:
how would projects that require keyboard input function? would it be like on mobile?

what is the mouse?

how can they make use of the controller?

it's possible, but why? the switch is a heavily restricted game console, so i'm sure even if scratch comes out and you can make games, you won't be able to play shared games.

AND

most people have phones so why bother?
Super_Scratch_Bros20
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

I've mentioned most of the development problems, but let's talk about the game now:

-How could you right-click (to add a comment)?

-Couldn't it be hard to try and drag a script without accidentally activating it? Without a mouse, that problem is practically endless.

-Speaking of which, would anyone even use the Nintendo Switch version?
xXRedTheCoderXx
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

-Speaking of which, would anyone even use the Nintendo Switch version?
I actually would, I actually daydreamed about Scratch on Nintendo Switch some months ago while I was on my Switch. Of course, I'd probably use it once, get frustrated with the controls and restrictions, then go back to my laptop. So, while it was a nice thought, it obviously wasn't going to come true.

And, even if there are millions of crazy people like me who would actually use it, I think it's safe to assume that, either way, this isn't going to be implemented, for all the reasons stated in page 1 and by you.

So yeah, I would use it, (Free app on my Switch? Hooray!) But, unlike dark theme, it's something that I can live without and be okay if it wasn't implemented.

AHHHHH it's so fustrating trying to make levels in SMM2 with Joy-con drift, juts imagine Scratch!!!! Good thing I got it fixed.
LegoManiac04
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

Technically, I don't think this would even be possible. The Switch isn't necessarily the most powerful console out there. I know from experience that lower-end devices tend have a lot of issues with Scratch, like the editor being laggy or projects being to “big” to be viewed. I can image that every time a project is to big to view, the app would just crash and give the “The software was closed because an error occurred” errors. The other idea that we just use Scratch on a web browser on the Switch also likely won't work. I first of all doubt the Switch will ever get a web browser,and if it did, we would likely run into the same problems as before, that is if the editor would even be able to load.
The other thing is that I believe all software on the Switch is made in Unity? I'm not completely sure if they can be made elsewhere, but if they can't, Scratch would probably have to be completely re-built.
For the controls, it may work for creating projects, but I doubt it would work for playing/viewing projects. Regardless, I can't imagine it being very intuitive… While games like Super Mario Maker 2 use drag-and-drop mechanics using the control sticks, it would likely be quite annoying. While I suppose you could also use the touchscreen when the Switch is undocked, the Switch's screen is kinda small…

Overall, I love the idea, but I don't think it would be technologically possible, nor would it be a fun experience. While I do own a Switch, I doubt I would use Scratch on it since it would be a slow and slightly annoying process doing anything. If even possible, I think it would be too much work for the devs with very little reward…

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (April 29, 2020 14:53:50)

Hashi24
Scratcher
31 posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

I support it I have a switch and it runs so much more than my iPad. It can be nonprofit still and I can make animations anywhere. I’d like that on my switch.
ComixMaker
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

You wouldn't need to use controllers, because the nintendo switch has a great touchscreen. Also, there is a built in keyboard that appears every time you need to use one. There's also a web browser(that you can't access through normal means) and social media built in, and it runs pretty smooth, better than my tablet, but that would mean you can just use the web browser…

Last edited by ComixMaker (April 29, 2020 19:26:52)

Super_Scratch_Bros20
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

Hashi24 wrote:

I support it I have a switch and it runs so much more than my iPad. It can be nonprofit still and I can make animations anywhere. I’d like that on my switch.
They'd still need to pay the developers.
ComixMaker
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

All the switch would need to do is to just let people access the web browser (search up switch's hidden web browser).
j5155
Scratcher
71 posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

I'd say to just wait until the Nintendo Switch gets a browser

Edit: 500 POSTS!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Nintendo Switch is never getting a browser.
Why? Because then kids could easily access the internet and the internet can be a very bad place. The only way scratch would be allowed on a switch is if Nintendo were allowed to moderate it, which would probably impact scratch a ton.
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

j5155 wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

I'd say to just wait until the Nintendo Switch gets a browser

Edit: 500 POSTS!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Nintendo Switch is never getting a browser.
Why? Because then kids could easily access the internet and the internet can be a very bad place. The only way scratch would be allowed on a switch is if Nintendo were allowed to moderate it, which would probably impact scratch a ton.
The Wii, Wii U, and 3DS all had an internet browser.
j5155
Scratcher
71 posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

fdreerf wrote:

j5155 wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

I'd say to just wait until the Nintendo Switch gets a browser

Edit: 500 POSTS!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Nintendo Switch is never getting a browser.
Why? Because then kids could easily access the internet and the internet can be a very bad place. The only way scratch would be allowed on a switch is if Nintendo were allowed to moderate it, which would probably impact scratch a ton.
The Wii, Wii U, and 3DS all had an internet browser.
Yes, but the internet has gotten worse since then, and Nintendo's target audience has gotten younger. Also, if you have a Switch then you or your parents most likely have some form of tablet or computer. I don't think this is a performance issue, as my Raspberry Pi runs Scratch 3 perfectly both online and offline.
fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

j5155 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

j5155 wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

I'd say to just wait until the Nintendo Switch gets a browser

Edit: 500 POSTS!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Nintendo Switch is never getting a browser.
Why? Because then kids could easily access the internet and the internet can be a very bad place. The only way scratch would be allowed on a switch is if Nintendo were allowed to moderate it, which would probably impact scratch a ton.
The Wii, Wii U, and 3DS all had an internet browser.
Yes, but the internet has gotten worse since then, and Nintendo's target audience has gotten younger.
Blatant lie. If you look at the Switch reveal trailer, pretty much every person in the trailer is a young adult.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

Again, Scratch is nonprofit. Would they be able to pay the budget to make a Nintendo Switch Scratch?

And don't say, “Donations”. There are too many Scratch Team members that would get involved in the development to pay.
j5155
Scratcher
71 posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

fdreerf wrote:

j5155 wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

j5155 wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

I'd say to just wait until the Nintendo Switch gets a browser

Edit: 500 POSTS!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!
The Nintendo Switch is never getting a browser.
Why? Because then kids could easily access the internet and the internet can be a very bad place. The only way scratch would be allowed on a switch is if Nintendo were allowed to moderate it, which would probably impact scratch a ton.
The Wii, Wii U, and 3DS all had an internet browser.
Yes, but the internet has gotten worse since then, and Nintendo's target audience has gotten younger.
Blatant lie. If you look at the Switch reveal trailer, pretty much every person in the trailer is a young adult.
That video is 4 years old. Any of the more recent ads that I've seen include < 10-year-olds. And, quite a few games have been released since then too. If we were having this conversation in 2017 maybe it would be possible, but not anymore.

Last edited by j5155 (April 29, 2020 20:31:07)

fdreerf
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

j5155 wrote:

That video is 4 years old. Any of the more recent ads that I've seen include < 10-year-olds. And, quite a few games have been released since then too. If we were having this conversation in 2017 maybe it would be possible, but not anymore.

This is the first thing you see when you open the latest Nintendo Direct Mini.
About four of the games are rated Teen for blood.
j5155
Scratcher
71 posts

Scratch for nintendo switch

fdreerf wrote:

j5155 wrote:

That video is 4 years old. Any of the more recent ads that I've seen include < 10-year-olds. And, quite a few games have been released since then too. If we were having this conversation in 2017 maybe it would be possible, but not anymore.

This is the first thing you see when you open the latest Nintendo Direct Mini.
About four of the games are rated Teen for blood.
Yes, but to get those games you would need a credit card, something not many kids have. It would be very difficult for a kid to get a game like that, but you can't charge someone to use a web browser; so the browser would have to be free or nonexistent. If it's free, a kid could easily access stuff worse then anything you can get on the switch, something Nintendo obviously doesn't want. And, Direct Minis aren't ads.

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