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braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Anti-Copying of Work

I have an idea.


It's called Duplicate Check.

I think there should be a “check for duplicates” option.
It would look at the code and the art and things, and it would alert the creator when a duplicate was found. They could then verify if it needed reporting or not. This would be a real time saver. After all, there are more than 6 million projects on Scratch! I do not want to sift through all of them!

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TheHockeyist
Scratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

Semi-support. This could be useful, but what exactly would count as a “duplicate”? Should it check for “near-duplicates” as well? Projects that are the same, but with a few things different?
braxbroscratcher
Scratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

TheHockeyist wrote:

Semi-support. This could be useful, but what exactly would count as a “duplicate”? Should it check for “near-duplicates” as well? Projects that are the same, but with a few things different?
As in, if more than a specified percent of scripts, art, etc. were matching, then it would flag it as a copy or invalid remix. Because if it were a true remix, then it would have more user created code. Which would mean the percentage of scripts being the same would be lower than a downloaded copy that was re-uploaded. It's anti-plagiarism. And there could be a checkbox where if you checked it, it would search the remixes of your project, where otherwise, it wouldn't.

Last edited by braxbroscratcher (Aug. 2, 2014 13:01:04)

TheHockeyist
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Anti-Copying of Work

braxbroscratcher wrote:

TheHockeyist wrote:

Semi-support. This could be useful, but what exactly would count as a “duplicate”? Should it check for “near-duplicates” as well? Projects that are the same, but with a few things different?
As in, if more than a specified percent of scripts, art, etc. were matching, then it would flag it as a copy or invalid remix. Because if it were a true remix, then it would have more user created code. Which would mean the percentage of scripts being the same would be lower than a downloaded copy that was re-uploaded. It's anti-plagiarism. And there could be a checkbox where if you checked it, it would search the remixes of your project, where otherwise, it wouldn't.

Would other users see the checkbox?
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

TheHockeyist wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

TheHockeyist wrote:

Semi-support. This could be useful, but what exactly would count as a “duplicate”? Should it check for “near-duplicates” as well? Projects that are the same, but with a few things different?
As in, if more than a specified percent of scripts, art, etc. were matching, then it would flag it as a copy or invalid remix. Because if it were a true remix, then it would have more user created code. Which would mean the percentage of scripts being the same would be lower than a downloaded copy that was re-uploaded. It's anti-plagiarism. And there could be a checkbox where if you checked it, it would search the remixes of your project, where otherwise, it wouldn't.

Would other users see the checkbox?

It would be on the project page for the CREATOR ONLY under a tab called Anti-Plaguarism. So no. You would check/uncheck the checkbox and input the percentage and hit Run Search.
imadrainpipe
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100+ posts

Anti-Copying of Work

Hmmm, I'm not sure entirely. People do claim projects as their own through remixing, and worse, the backpack allows people to steal stuff and put it in their projects.
But how would it work?
Report to ST or auto delete? Auto delete may delete projects incorrectly, but ST would end up incorrectly banning because there are so many and have less time for reading reports.
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

imadrainpipe wrote:

Hmmm, I'm not sure entirely. People do claim projects as their own through remixing, and worse, the backpack allows people to steal stuff and put it in their projects.
But how would it work?
Report to ST or auto delete? Auto delete may delete projects incorrectly, but ST would end up incorrectly banning because there are so many and have less time for reading reports.
It would list the project(s) so that the user could deal with it. With a link, of course.
imadrainpipe
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Anti-Copying of Work

braxbroscratcher wrote:

imadrainpipe wrote:

Hmmm, I'm not sure entirely. People do claim projects as their own through remixing, and worse, the backpack allows people to steal stuff and put it in their projects.
But how would it work?
Report to ST or auto delete? Auto delete may delete projects incorrectly, but ST would end up incorrectly banning because there are so many and have less time for reading reports.
It would list the project(s) so that the user could deal with it. With a link, of course.
The user would just get false reported and stressed though.
epicsandwich123
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Anti-Copying of Work

6 million projects would take an awful long time! Anyway, who cares if someone stole your project it doesn't harm you. If someone goes to your profile to tell you how you have copied a project from …, report….
MushroomMan99
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Anti-Copying of Work

Add me to supporters
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cheddargirl
Scratch Team
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Anti-Copying of Work

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

cheddargirl wrote:

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
Ok, thanks. I just was thinking, with 6000000 projects, we could have something more… automated. But thanks for the info. Glad we are thinking alike.
Braeden5454
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Anti-Copying of Work

cheddargirl wrote:

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
Thats neat! Cool. who thought of it?
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

Braeden5454 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
Thats neat! Cool. who thought of it?
This thread? Me.
cheddargirl
Scratch Team
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Anti-Copying of Work

braxbroscratcher wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
Ok, thanks. I just was thinking, with 6000000 projects, we could have something more… automated. But thanks for the info. Glad we are thinking alike.
Oh, an automated system for checking a single project against all 6 million+ projects is a really, really bad idea, as it will likely crash the website.
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

cheddargirl wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

We had something similar with Scratch 1.4, though it was manual: you would input the URLs of two projects you wanted to compare where it would look at all the scripts and images to see if modifications were made or not. We thought adding something similar back into 2.0, but right now, we need to focus on the stability of 2.0 first.
Ok, thanks. I just was thinking, with 6000000 projects, we could have something more… automated. But thanks for the info. Glad we are thinking alike.
Oh, an automated system for checking a single project against all 6 million+ projects is a really, really bad idea, as it will likely crash the website.
… Yeah. I guess so. That stinks. Um… I guess you could google.
gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890
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Anti-Copying of Work

epicsandwich123 wrote:

6 million projects would take an awful long time! Anyway, who cares if someone stole your project it doesn't harm you. If someone goes to your profile to tell you how you have copied a project from …, report….
So you wouldn`t mind if someone claimed your work as your own?

If you worked hard on something, you would want to get some recognition for it. And in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with confronting a project copier as long as you are polite.

Last edited by gdpr533f604550b2f20900645890 (Aug. 4, 2014 15:08:21)

danielhal
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Anti-Copying of Work

+1 but this would probably me VERY laggy
braxbroscratcher
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Anti-Copying of Work

danielhal wrote:

+1 but this would probably me VERY laggy
The ST already said that it might make this, but not automated, due to this idea might crash the site.

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