Making No Advertising a Community Guideline

pikachurock

UBISOFT122 wrote:
Well, personally I think that advertising is really a VERY serious problem, and we SHOULD ban it. Take an example. If you were a creator of a featured project, and when you see the messages, think that you got comments that are positive, praises and/or suggestions, but it turns out to be all advertising about other people's games, what would you feel? Also, spam messages take up your storage and space, and it makes the website laggy. On the other hand in psychology, the feeling you get by advertising is annoyed, depressed, and for the previous example, it actually makes you get depression, a heart and feeling sickness. I know people that like to advertise when you usually tell them to not, they do more, and even cyberbullies you. Hence we should TOTALLY ban advertising in Scratch.

UBISOFT122,
From Jan-17, 2020.

I completely disagree. Even if you don't make money on scratch, you can make money on youtube with ads. And you won't get depression from getting advertisements, it means that they want you to look at it. They may have gotten inspired, or made something for you. I get the really annoying ones, but usually that's not the case. I don't think we should ban it at all.

super_epic_games

support.

cs515774

Some people want others to advertise on their project/profile. And if you are just friendly chatting with someone and want to show them your project, maybe u should ask them first if they want to see it.

And maybe people should ask if they can advertise.

tfri1

cs515774 wrote:
Some people want others to advertise on their project/profile. And if you are just friendly chatting with someone and want to show them your project, maybe u should ask them first if they want to see it.
And maybe people should ask if they can advertise.

I agree with @cs515774 except that people need to also apologise if they advertised without permission.

Nambaseking01

super_epic_games wrote:
support.

The following is a custom message and it can sound very childish - please do not feel offended or sad because you are a professional and should be treated otherwise.

Hey! Great job on posting your opinion on this suggestion topic! But unfortunatly, you made a mistake. But everyone makes those, so no problem! ^^ But let's see what mistake you made. You see, when the Scratch team views a suggestion topic, it doesn't matter how many people said support, it matters on people's reasoning why they support. If there are fantastic reasons, then the Scratch Team might add the feature! But not doing so might result in the suggestion never being added.

To prevent this, you need to be a little constructive. What does that mean? It means you need to explain in a nice way why you support or don't support the suggestion. Always in a nice way. Because “HEY HEY HEY! BAD SUGGESTION! IT INVOLVES INAPPROPRIATE STUFF!” does have a reasoning but is a little weird. So no.

But hey, now you have learnt something new! Congratulations!

DarthVader4Life

pikachurock wrote:
UBISOFT122 wrote:
Well, personally I think that advertising is really a VERY serious problem, and we SHOULD ban it. Take an example. If you were a creator of a featured project, and when you see the messages, think that you got comments that are positive, praises and/or suggestions, but it turns out to be all advertising about other people's games, what would you feel? Also, spam messages take up your storage and space, and it makes the website laggy. On the other hand in psychology, the feeling you get by advertising is annoyed, depressed, and for the previous example, it actually makes you get depression, a heart and feeling sickness. I know people that like to advertise when you usually tell them to not, they do more, and even cyberbullies you. Hence we should TOTALLY ban advertising in Scratch.

UBISOFT122,
From Jan-17, 2020.
-snip- I get the really annoying ones, but usually that's not the case. I don't think we should ban it at all.

umm. most ads on scratch, it being annoy is usually the case.

EIephant_Lover

How has this not been bumped recently?

Anyway bump

Super_Scratch_Bros20

This is partially implemented and partially rejected. It was implemented in a way. It wasn't added to the Community Guidelines, but @Paddle2See made an important announcement regarding F4F and advertising (I know, this is only about advertising). If they didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (April 26, 2020 18:36:40)

Botcho_Otkho

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
This is a duplicate. It was implemented in a way. It wasn't added to the Community Guidelines, but @Paddle2See made an important announcement regarding F4F and advertising (I know, this is only about advertising). If they didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.

The thread you linked is newer than this one, so that is the duplicate.

Last edited by Botcho_Otkho (April 26, 2020 18:33:23)

kittydude23

Charles12310 wrote:
scratchjack1234 wrote:
So pretty much everyone on Scratch doesn't like advertising. And since I know that is a problem, I think it would be a good idea to put no advertising as a community guideline. This would help because a lot of new scratchers don't understand about advertising. I think this would reduce a lot of advertising seeing as advertising would be a legitimately reportable offense that advertisers would be afraid of. If you don't support, please give your reasons why.
Thanks!-@scratchjack1234
Support-6
No Support. Advertising projects is not a violation, and it actually something that is useful to get noticed. I know Scratch isn't about being popular, but I doubt this rule would be fair. This should only be violated for comments in a project.

you have a point. :: sensing

Super_Scratch_Bros20

Botcho_Otkho wrote:
Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
This is a duplicate. It was implemented in a way. It wasn't added to the Community Guidelines, but @Paddle2See made an important announcement regarding F4F and advertising (I know, this is only about advertising). If they didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.
The thread you linked is newer than this one, so that is the duplicate.

Either way, if the Scratch Team didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.

GuineaGod

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
Botcho_Otkho wrote:
Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
This is a duplicate. It was implemented in a way. It wasn't added to the Community Guidelines, but @Paddle2See made an important announcement regarding F4F and advertising (I know, this is only about advertising). If they didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.
The thread you linked is newer than this one, so that is the duplicate.

Either way, if the Scratch Team didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.

Yes you a right.

EIephant_Lover

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
-snip-
Either way, if the Scratch Team didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.

No, because advertising and F4F are completely, totally different things. A greater majority of Scratchers support the ban of F4F. In fact, most Scratchers (I mean I don't have the stats but from observation) don't do/support F4F but they still don't support a ban, but most Scratchers do support the ban of advertising.

Again, this is from observation, not statistics.

Super_Scratch_Bros20

EIephant_Lover wrote:
Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:
-snip-
Either way, if the Scratch Team didn't implement follow for follow AND advertising to the Community Guidelines, then it's unlikely that they'll add advertising alone.
No, because advertising and F4F are completely, totally different things. A greater majority of Scratchers support the ban of F4F. In fact, most Scratchers (I mean I don't have the stats but from observation) don't do/support F4F but they still don't support a ban, but most Scratchers do support the ban of advertising.

Again, this is from observation, not statistics.

Yes, but if they didn't implement follow for follow or advertising to the Community Guidelines, then they won't add one or the other. The suggestion was technically two suggestions: adding no f4f to the Community Guidelines and adding no advertising to the Community Guidelines. The Scratch Team rejected both, including “adding no advertising to the Community Guidelines”, which is what this suggestion is.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (April 26, 2020 18:51:30)

Life_Tutor

Advertising is fine as long as you do it in a place where it says you can advertise. The Scratch Team recently made a topic about advertising here:
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/396541/

EIephant_Lover

Life_Tutor wrote:
Advertising is fine as long as you do it in a place where it says you can advertise. The Scratch Team recently made a topic about advertising here:
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/396541/

Ah - thanks for this! I heard they were going to make an announcement but I didn't see it. :)

GuineaGod

scratchjack1234 wrote:
So pretty much everyone on Scratch doesn't like advertising. And since I know that is a problem, I think it would be a good idea to put no advertising as a community guideline. This would help because a lot of new scratchers don't understand about advertising. I think this would reduce a lot of advertising seeing as advertising would be a legitimately reportable offense that advertisers would be afraid of. If you don't support, please give your reasons why.
Thanks!-@scratchjack1234
Support-6

Extra Note: I mean advertising as in posting links and other things on other people's stuff. Doing it on your own stuff is fine

Clearly scratch hates it, but SOMEHOW its not against the community guidelines, even though their reporting people for it!??!?!?!

R4356th

I think it could be marked as implemented (see https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/396541/ ) and even partially rejected since @Za-Chary said on the suggestion which got implemented that they would not make it a part of the Community Guidelines (see https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3933816/ ).

GuineaGod

R4356th wrote:
I think it could be marked as implemented (see https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/396541/ ) and even partially rejected since @Za-Chary said on the suggestion which got implemented that they would not make it a part of the Community Guidelines (see https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3933816/ ).

Yes that is true, but still.

R4356th

GuineaGod wrote:
Yes that is true, but still.

But still what?

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