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pinkiepie710
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✔✅ The Emerald Shop 4.0 Planning ✅✔


What is this collab for?
The Emerald Shop 3.0 is moving forum topics! This collab has been created to give us a place to brainstorm and work on ideas for the new topic. Please only post here if you're a member of The Emerald Shop.

List of suggestions
Note: Many of these were suggested by more than one person, so I didn't credit anyone for the suggestions. Sorry.

Accepted:
  1. Have Pie reserve more posts (10, probably) for the new front page
  2. Have members of the BoD reserve posts (order TBD)
  3. Have a post for showcasing work done by employees
  4. Introduce more forms (Partnerships, leave/absence)
  5. Have multiple people submit banners and let the shop vote on them to decide which will be the new banner
  6. Create a Collaborations forum topic for this (lol)
  7. Move the studio link to the navigation pane
  8. Showcase reviews of the shop on the front page
  9. Make some of the text (headings?) on the front page green
  10. Expand the TES 1.0 history section (with help from Muffins)
  11. Begin an advertising campaign for TES 4.0 (when is TBD)
  12. This isn't really a suggestion, but @AFNNetworkK12 made a video for us! tiny.cc/CodeForScratch (I haven't seen it yet, it's blocked on my school Chromebook. Someone remind me to watch it on my phone later.)
  13. Hold a 2-week activity check before the move and fire anyone who does not respond.
  14. Add a list of past employees somewhere on the front page. (There was one in TES 1.0, but we may have to go through all of the past pages of the shop.)
  15. The Secretary (mango) will decide whether to have a static UOC, a moving UOC, or both.
Pending:
  1. None!
Rejected:
  1. Move the previous topic links to the navigation pane
  2. Add a report form (they're not allowed, according to this)
  3. Add an “urgent orders” section to the UOC
  4. Add a minimum amount of work that must be done by employees every month
  5. Have a specific banner for each post on the front page

FAQ Suggestons
These are the suggested questions to put on the FAQ

Customer questions
  • What is a shop?
  • How do I order?
  • Where do I place orders?
  • What kinds of orders do you accept?
  • How do I review your work?
  • What if I'm not satisfied?
Worker questions
  • How do I apply?
  • What do I need to do as an employee?
  • How do I respond to an activity check?
  • How do I get on the Board of Directors?
  • Do I need to join a studio?
  • Why am I a trainee?
  • Can trainees take orders?
  • Can trainees vote?
  • How do I become a full member?
  • Where do I find the unclaimed orders?
  • Why was I not accepted?
  • What are strikes?
  • How do I take orders?
  • How do I upload orders?
  • Can non-BoD members suggest things?
  • How do I go on leave/get excused?

Front page stuff
Here's the front page draft, it might be updated in the future.
Here is the schedule for reserving posts!

Suggested timeline
Here is FloatingMuffins' suggested timeline for moving! This may be updated in the future.

New Banner
Banner voting is now closed, thanks to everyone who submitted and voted on the banners!

New banner, made by @whiteandblackcat:

Last edited by pinkiepie710 (April 22, 2020 23:29:54)

b1048546
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I want to help but I suck at everything. ):
pinkiepie710
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b1048546 wrote:

I want to help but I suck at everything. ):
Somehow, I doubt that you suck at everything. You can always help by taking orders, making a banner, or helping with the front page (eventually, when I make the first draft).
b1048546
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pinkiepie710 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

I want to help but I suck at everything. ):
Somehow, I doubt that you suck at everything. You can always help by taking orders, making a banner, or helping with the front page (eventually, when I make the first draft).
I can't do art and that's most of the orders in the UOC. I can (maybe) help with the front page I guess.
whiteandblackcat
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My opinions on the pending orders: (no idea if you wanted others' opinions, lol)
1&2 (these were my ideas so I won't comment on them again)
3. This would be so, so useful. Please do it. (if there's room in the navigation pane)
4. I think it's up to mango whether she wants to maintain both UOCs.
5. Showcase reviews - good idea but we'd have to collect customer service forms and reviews done by federations etc. so it might be better to only include new reviews, rather than go back and find old ones.

Banner people - imma repost these links if you wanna use any of these cool backgrounds:
A bunch of pretty cool images
A bunch more green pics

Edit: Just realised I had a complete brain fart when i was making the banner and made it 100 px too short, fixed that now, here is the new one:

http://u.cubeupload.com/walrusthecowbird/TESV42.png

Last edited by whiteandblackcat (March 29, 2020 21:27:14)


Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President
FloatingMuffins
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Opinions on current suggestions
In relation to the pending suggestions section, we could have BoD votes on these.

I think we should definitely showcase reviews on the front page. Maybe even just 3 or 4. Lots of shops already do it and I honestly think it would give us more orders.

In relation to having a static UOC and moving UOC, I don't think it matters too much however I would support having both. But maybe leave it up to the secretary. A static UOC is easier to find. However, a moving UOC reminds people to take orders and they don't forget about it. With a static and moving UOC, you get the best of both worlds.

I don't support an “urgent orders” section because one can see which orders are important just by looking at the deadline.

Also report forms are not allowed which I discovered today: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/392552/. (I will now have to remove it from the Strawberry Shop)

I like the idea of making some text green. It makes it more colourful!


New Suggestions
We could begin a big advertising campaign ahead of V4 in an attempt to get more members. This can be discussed more later.

Also, we could expand the history section about 1.0. (I can help with that)

Hold a 2 week activity check before the transition and fire anyone who doesn't respond to ensure that the members list in V4 is just active members.

Have a list of all past employees. (Grouped by 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and V4)

I will tell you if I have any more ideas. I will also work on creating a banner for the shop.

Last edited by FloatingMuffins (March 29, 2020 21:27:52)


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You can call me Muffins!
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whiteandblackcat
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FloatingMuffins wrote:

Opinions on current suggestions
-snippy-
New Suggestions
We could begin a big advertising campaign ahead of V4 in an attempt to get more members. This can be discussed more later.

Also, we could expand the history section about 1.0. (I can help with that)

Hold a 2 week activity check before the transition and fire anyone who doesn't respond to ensure that the members list in V4 is just active members.

Have a list of all past employees. (Grouped by 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and V4)

I will tell you if I have any more ideas. I will also work on creating a banner for the shop.
Advertising campaign - This should probably be just after the launch of V4, when everything is sorted out but we still have a shiny new thread, campaigning in 3.0 might confuse people because we tell people to go to 3.0, then when they get there all they see is talk about the new forum, they might get confused. An “official launch” of V4 could be cool to celebrate though.

History section - Sounds good to me

Activity check - I honestly think a one week one would be fine. People know that activity checks are sporadic and most people are home and on scratch a lot anyway. (maybe I'm just more cold-hearted than you, lol)

Past employees - This would be cool but also very long and hard to implement, would someone have to go through all the previous pages to look for employees?

Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President
FloatingMuffins
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whiteandblackcat wrote:

FloatingMuffins wrote:

Opinions on current suggestions
-snippy-
New Suggestions
We could begin a big advertising campaign ahead of V4 in an attempt to get more members. This can be discussed more later.

Also, we could expand the history section about 1.0. (I can help with that)

Hold a 2 week activity check before the transition and fire anyone who doesn't respond to ensure that the members list in V4 is just active members.

Have a list of all past employees. (Grouped by 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and V4)

I will tell you if I have any more ideas. I will also work on creating a banner for the shop.
Advertising campaign - This should probably be just after the launch of V4, when everything is sorted out but we still have a shiny new thread, campaigning in 3.0 might confuse people because we tell people to go to 3.0, then when they get there all they see is talk about the new forum, they might get confused. An “official launch” of V4 could be cool to celebrate though.

History section - Sounds good to me

Activity check - I honestly think a one week one would be fine. People know that activity checks are sporadic and most people are home and on scratch a lot anyway. (maybe I'm just more cold-hearted than you, lol)

Past employees - This would be cool but also very long and hard to implement, would someone have to go through all the previous pages to look for employees?
Advertising campaign - Thanks, after the launch of V4 would definitely make more sense.

Activity check - And I thought I was cold-hearted!

Past employees - Well, we had a list in 1.0 so that's that part sorted. There wasn't one for 2.0 and 3.0 because… well… I don't know why. Maybe all of us could look through 2.0 and 3.0 to make a list of previous employees.

Hi, I'm FloatingMuffins!
You can call me Muffins!
Age 17 | Irish | Traditional Catholic | Conservative

whiteandblackcat
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FloatingMuffins wrote:

whiteandblackcat wrote:

FloatingMuffins wrote:

Opinions on current suggestions
-snippy-
snippy
Advertising campaign - Thanks, after the launch of V4 would definitely make more sense.

Activity check - And I thought I was cold-hearted!

Past employees - Well, we had a list in 1.0 so that's that part sorted. There wasn't one for 2.0 and 3.0 because… well… I don't know why. Maybe all of us could look through 2.0 and 3.0 to make a list of previous employees.
Activity check - Another reason 2 weeks might not be the best idea is that people will get confused as to whether it means they have to respond two weeks in a row, or whether it's called that because it's after two weeks. It seems obvious that you have two weeks to respond but different people think differently

Past employees - we could just have a list of 1.0 employees, that would keep a shorter list and save time, while still having the same sort of “look these are veterans” idea

Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President
-DancerRJV-
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Suggestion:

So, I know this idea was passed around before by someone else (I don't remember who… *Edit It was -ShadowsHiding-*), but I don't know if it was ever fully considered. It would be that there is a minimum amount of work any given employee has to do per week/month/time in between activity checks. So for example: Anyone who isn't on the BoD has to take at least one order in the given time (any of the ones above^), or they will get a strike. For the BoD though, I don't know. Cause they each have their own job, so I'm not sure.

Last edited by -DancerRJV- (March 29, 2020 21:58:54)




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-DancerRJV- wrote:

Suggestion:

So, I know this idea was passed around before by someone else (I don't remember who…), but I don't know if it was ever fully considered. It would be that there is a minimum amount of work any given employee has to do per week/month/time in between activity checks. So for example: Anyone who isn't on the BoD has to take at least one order in the given time (any of the ones above^), or they will get a strike. For the BoD though, I don't know. Cause they each have their own job, so I'm not sure.
Oh, that was -ShadowsHiding-.

I am officially reopening my account. I decided this is the best way to go.
-DancerRJV-
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OurPrincess wrote:

-DancerRJV- wrote:

Suggestion:
~Snip
Oh, that was -ShadowsHiding-.
Ahh, thanks. (:



May the cries of your enemies be silenced by space's void.
(Does anybody remember that from two SWC sessions ago?)































Hey, another siggy scroller!








Hey, if you made it this far, you're a pretty dedicated siggy scroller.




Guess what? I'm a baker, dancer, Disney fan, enneagram lover, teen, who loves scratch, helping out in shops, and guiding new scratchers on their journey through scratch.


















My sister is PFTV. If you don't know who she is, good luck finding her…














You know, you should really stop climbing down the stairs to my basement.

















I told you to stop, there are some personal things down there!





























Whoa whoa whoa, you better sllllllooooooooowwwww down.























You're still looking? Alright fine. Now you know. DON'T GO FURTHER

















Come on, please?















… *sobs* pwetty pwese?
















Alright fine. You went this far. I guess I've gotta give ya somethin'. Here ya go, I'm a potato. You heard it. now go to my profile and comment “chez puffs”.
FloatingMuffins
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-DancerRJV- wrote:

Suggestion:

So, I know this idea was passed around before by someone else (I don't remember who… *Edit It was -ShadowsHiding-*), but I don't know if it was ever fully considered. It would be that there is a minimum amount of work any given employee has to do per week/month/time in between activity checks. So for example: Anyone who isn't on the BoD has to take at least one order in the given time (any of the ones above^), or they will get a strike. For the BoD though, I don't know. Cause they each have their own job, so I'm not sure.
Sorry. No support. Some people may be specialised at stuff like ideas, advertising and terrible at art. Most of our orders are art so it would be very difficult for these people to reach their 1 order requirement. Also, members can help the shop in ways other than completing orders such as by proposing suggestions.

Hi, I'm FloatingMuffins!
You can call me Muffins!
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pinkiepie710
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I've updated the list of suggestions! What are your thoughts on the pending ones?
whiteandblackcat
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1. Have a static UOC and a moving UOC (Secretary will decide if she wants to or not)
2. Begin an advertising campaign for TES 4.0 (when is TBD)
3. Hold a 2-week activity check before the move and fire anyone who does not respond
4. Add a list of past employees somewhere on the front page. (There was one in TES 1.0, but we may have to go through all of the past pages of the shop.)
5. Add a minimum amount of work that must be done by employees every month
These are just my opinions ok
1. Up to mango (as said earlier)

2. Totally

3. Well I already said I think one week will be sufficient, but I am all for an activity check. I think we need to make sure we have active members.

4. I wouldn't bother going through past pages. Have a “veterans” section maybe but I don't think anyone really wants to go through 400 pages of shop.

5. Well, this has the obvious flaw that “how are you going to do orders if there are none you can do” but maybe we could say trainees have to do orders to be promoted? For instance, if a trainee does a set amount of orders in a month, they only have to respond to 2 activity checks to be promoted, and can be promoted earlier. We could extend this to be a strike removing method, for instance completing three orders in a month can remove an inactivity strike. (numbers are nominal, feel free to suggest bigger/smaller numbers)

Edit: I actually have 3 banners, just with different brightness levels in the background because I thought contrast might be an issue.

Last edited by whiteandblackcat (March 30, 2020 05:50:12)


Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President
FloatingMuffins
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Maybe we could change our slogan. We could have a vote on it.

Hi, I'm FloatingMuffins!
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crossme72
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I think we should have all the members/trainees on the front page with the strikes and things so there is less confusion with everyone who isn't sure whether they're in or not.
whiteandblackcat
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FloatingMuffins wrote:

Maybe we could change our slogan. We could have a vote on it.
we have a slogan??!!!!??!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?

Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President
FloatingMuffins
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whiteandblackcat wrote:

FloatingMuffins wrote:

Maybe we could change our slogan. We could have a vote on it.
we have a slogan??!!!!??!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?
It's in our forum title.

Hi, I'm FloatingMuffins!
You can call me Muffins!
Age 17 | Irish | Traditional Catholic | Conservative

whiteandblackcat
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FloatingMuffins wrote:

whiteandblackcat wrote:

FloatingMuffins wrote:

Maybe we could change our slogan. We could have a vote on it.
we have a slogan??!!!!??!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?
It's in our forum title.
Oh, that. I wouldn't necessarily call it a slogan, but we can change it. I have no idea what to change it to, though.

Last edited by whiteandblackcat (March 30, 2020 10:07:49)


Hi, I'm Kat!
I'm not too active in the forums anymore, but I'm still active on scratch!
I'm a cohost of Scratch Writing Camp, running it with Alba, Birdi, Bakie, and Honey.

I love coding, maths (especially simultaneous equations and the quadratic formula!!!), art and writing (and also spreadsheets and responsibilities-)! I used to know 157 digits of pi, but I can only get to around 110 at the moment. I also love Minecraft :]

Here's some things I have been in the past:
- Forum helper member
- Buzzy Bee Banners secretary & banner maker
- Emerald Shop 4.0 Vice President

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