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bybb
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School IT

xn--cr8h wrote:

bybb wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.
i mean if a student wants to install an adblocker they can do it themselves
Not at my school, they've blocked the install of extensions on Chrome and locked us out of anything that would let it change it.
LuckyLucky7
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Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
LuckyLucky7
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School IT

bybb wrote:

xn--cr8h wrote:

bybb wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

infinitytec wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

Meowlithius wrote:

Huh, my school just added uBlock (literally in the hour) to the growing list of extensions they have on these chromebooks.
Weird how everything in it is just open though… (you would think they would somehow block it) But ain't complaining.
smart move
Yep
and as soon as i said that, the next day they removed it… (why? There was really nothing wrong with it.)
That's a bit stupid, adding an Adblock / Tracker Block (a good thing) and then removing it and getting ads and trackers back (a bad thing).
I'll never understand how School IT works.
i mean if a student wants to install an adblocker they can do it themselves
Not at my school, they've blocked the install of extensions on Chrome and locked us out of anything that would let it change it.
For me, I can install extensions at my school. I can even install VPNs and Adblockers. The only problem that I have is that a LOT of websites are blocked. Good thing Coolmath games is not blocked…When I go on a website like the official tank trouble website, I see this screen saying, “Sorry, this website is not available because it is categorized as games.” And then there's an administrator picture at the top of the page that looks like this:
Sometimes, it says that a website is categorized as “parked”, and I don't really understand what that is supposed to mean.
jseeli
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100+ posts

School IT

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
Welcome to the club. Many times, our school PCs for some reason refuses to boot to Windows 7. What happens, we get the Dell logo and it goes off. Then the logo keeps going and coming and would not even boot into Windows. I guess they fix it by reinstall I guess

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
LuckyLucky7
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School IT

jseeli wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
Welcome to the club. Many times, our school PCs for some reason refuses to boot to Windows 7. What happens, we get the Dell logo and it goes off. Then the logo keeps going and coming and would not even boot into Windows. I guess they fix it by reinstall I guess

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
SMASHED A COMPUTER SCREEN??? Who would do that??? Also, there's some really fast and good HP computers in the media center and in 1 of the computer labs at my school. Some of the DELL computers apparently overheat in the other computer lab and then they don't get past the DELL screen
Foxlum
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10 posts

School IT

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

For me, I can install extensions at my school. I can even install VPNs and Adblockers. The only problem that I have is that a LOT of websites are blocked. Good thing Coolmath games is not blocked…When I go on a website like the official tank trouble website, I see this screen saying, “Sorry, this website is not available because it is categorized as games.” And then there's an administrator picture at the top of the page that looks like this:
http://u.cubeupload.com/LuckyLucky7/Administrator.png
Sometimes, it says that a website is categorized as “parked”, and I don't really understand what that is supposed to mean.
*Future replacement account for Meowlithius*
*Has PresentTSD (doesn't actually exist but I'm having it)
That's Lightspeed and my school makes use of it extensively… (like how for me all .io extension pages are blocked for obvious reasons.)
jseeli
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School IT

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

jseeli wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
Welcome to the club. Many times, our school PCs for some reason refuses to boot to Windows 7. What happens, we get the Dell logo and it goes off. Then the logo keeps going and coming and would not even boot into Windows. I guess they fix it by reinstall I guess

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
SMASHED A COMPUTER SCREEN??? Who would do that??? Also, there's some really fast and good HP computers in the media center and in 1 of the computer labs at my school. Some of the DELL computers apparently overheat in the other computer lab and then they don't get past the DELL screen
IDK. No one knows. Maybe someone broke it and forgot about it
Foxlum
Scratcher
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School IT

Foxlum wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

For me, I can install extensions at my school. I can even install VPNs and Adblockers. The only problem that I have is that a LOT of websites are blocked. Good thing Coolmath games is not blocked…When I go on a website like the official tank trouble website, I see this screen saying, “Sorry, this website is not available because it is categorized as games.” And then there's an administrator picture at the top of the page that looks like this:
http://u.cubeupload.com/LuckyLucky7/Administrator.png
Sometimes, it says that a website is categorized as “parked”, and I don't really understand what that is supposed to mean.
*Future replacement account for Meowlithius*
*Has PresentTSD (doesn't actually exist but I'm having it)
That's Lightspeed and my school makes use of it extensively… (like how for me all .io extension pages are blocked for obvious reasons.)
all I want to do is to go to codepen… *accidental post because mobile version of forums is weird…

Last edited by Foxlum (April 21, 2019 03:29:34)

bybb
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1000+ posts

School IT

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

jseeli wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
Welcome to the club. Many times, our school PCs for some reason refuses to boot to Windows 7. What happens, we get the Dell logo and it goes off. Then the logo keeps going and coming and would not even boot into Windows. I guess they fix it by reinstall I guess

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
SMASHED A COMPUTER SCREEN??? Who would do that??? Also, there's some really fast and good HP computers in the media center and in 1 of the computer labs at my school. Some of the DELL computers apparently overheat in the other computer lab and then they don't get past the DELL screen
A kid in LAN Club got mad at a game and elbowed the screen of one of the computers (they're all in ones). The screen just died… It was very funny because they never found out who did it but I know
bybb
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School IT

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

-snip-
Sometimes, it says that a website is categorized as “parked”, and I don't really understand what that is supposed to mean.
When a domain name is parked, it does not go to any particular service, but rather a parking page such as
jseeli
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100+ posts

School IT

bump (i know it is not my topic. But, it is so interesting)
bybb
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1000+ posts

School IT

I'd love it if my teachers actually knew how to use computers properly.
My History teacher downloaded a fake Adobe Flash a while ago while trying to get a movie to play off a pirate movie site…
LuckyLucky7
Scratcher
1000+ posts

School IT

bybb wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

jseeli wrote:

-snip-

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
SMASHED A COMPUTER SCREEN??? Who would do that??? Also, there's some really fast and good HP computers in the media center and in 1 of the computer labs at my school. Some of the DELL computers apparently overheat in the other computer lab and then they don't get past the DELL screen
A kid in LAN Club got mad at a game and elbowed the screen of one of the computers (they're all in ones). The screen just died… It was very funny because they never found out who did it but I know

Last edited by LuckyLucky7 (April 28, 2019 21:30:57)

CatsUnited
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School IT

bybb wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

jseeli wrote:

LuckyLucky7 wrote:

Wanna know something funny? So in my school, I tried to reset a computer in my homeroom's classroom and then I made an account called XF, and the password was 1, but then somebody(not the school IT) changed the password, so then I tried to reset another computer in the same classroom but then someone in my homeroom put their username and password they wanted for the computer. Apparently, the DELL computers at my school are so bad that when I tried resetting a computer in my Physical Science(I'm in 7th grade and I take physical science), it became unusable! Like nothing at all was working! The only thing that I can see now is the DELL boot-up screen and then some console thingy saying that Windows was not found or something and then it said, “Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart”. Well actually, I think I broke the computer by resetting it and then turning it off while it was trying to reinstall windows…
Welcome to the club. Many times, our school PCs for some reason refuses to boot to Windows 7. What happens, we get the Dell logo and it goes off. Then the logo keeps going and coming and would not even boot into Windows. I guess they fix it by reinstall I guess

Before we got an upgrade to some new Dell Optiplex systems, we used to have stupid HP LAPTOPS as our school computers. These laptops werein bad condition and many students removed the keys from the laptop and it ran WINDOWS XP for a long time after its discontinuation date. So, the school threw them away and upgraded the PCs. They said us to be careful with the PCs and told us “not to pick the keys” and “touch the monitor.”. Though recently, someone smashed a computer screen in the lab and the school replaced it after a long time
SMASHED A COMPUTER SCREEN??? Who would do that??? Also, there's some really fast and good HP computers in the media center and in 1 of the computer labs at my school. Some of the DELL computers apparently overheat in the other computer lab and then they don't get past the DELL screen
A kid in LAN Club got mad at a game and elbowed the screen of one of the computers (they're all in ones). The screen just died… It was very funny because they never found out who did it but I know
Top 10 Epic Gamer Moments 2019
Also I remember my old school had Dells running Windows 7 that have done similar things
awesome-llama
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School IT

Time to revive this topic again. Here is an update of the things at my school:

The school has finally upgraded computers (yay), so now there are plenty of new HP laptops. They are pretty good, and the school now has 20 for the library and an additional few for the “senior” classroom (classroom only for year 11 and 12).
In addition, teachers have upgraded laptops. Their old ones are now for the students to use. (Basically, the setup is that the library laptops stay in the library, and the old teacher laptops can be “borrowed” from here but can be taken back to be used in the other classrooms. This saves some classes from moving to the computer room for a lesson as the old teacher laptops can be used in class).
Now, there are also really old thinkpad laptops from like 10 years ago. They used to be for borrowing, but have now finally been “decommissioned”. The hard drives, ram, etc is being salvaged and the rest thrown away. (BTW, random fact- the old computers had an administrator password that was literally “administrator”. Of course I found out and used it. Although all I ended up doing was install custom fonts and cpu monitoring apps)

Now here is the bad news:
The school has recently introduced tracking software onto all the computers and laptops. It is called veyon and you can see the github repo here (its open sourced): https://github.com/veyon/veyon
All teachers can see the screens of all devices, so suddenly no one can play games, watch YouTube or do other non-studying things.
They can even send warning messages to students' compters e.g. “stop playing computer games”, or the one i received, “big brother is watching you”, and also remotely shut down computers of anyone who is not doing the right thing.
For now, the only thing I know to prevent spying on my computer is to turn off the internet connection. I am trying to see if there are ways to avoid it or disabling it, but the program is invincible - admin powers are needed to modify the files or even force it to close via task manager or command line.

Last edited by awesome-llama (May 31, 2019 05:52:56)

CatsUnited
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awesome-llama wrote:

…or the one i received, “big brother is watching you”, and also remotely shut down computers of anyone who is not doing the right thing…
>tfw your teacher see you watching youtube video but they read 1984 by george orwell last night
awesome-llama
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CatsUnited wrote:

awesome-llama wrote:

…or the one i received, “big brother is watching you”, and also remotely shut down computers of anyone who is not doing the right thing…
>tfw your teacher see you watching youtube video but they read 1984 by george orwell last night

Well actually, there was a reason why it was used. A performance that happened at the school on the previous day. There was Romeo and Juliet, 1984, The Tempest and Macbeth - 4 texts that have been/will be studied at school for english. (The thing is, this was shown to years 7-12 [note: this is in Australia], and the performances contained acting that probably shouldn't have been shown to the youngest years. [lots of kissing in romeo and juliet, torture and violence in 1984, etc from all the performances])

Last edited by awesome-llama (May 31, 2019 09:06:47)

Jeffalo
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School IT

awesome-llama wrote:

Time to revive this topic again. Here is an update of the things at my school:

The school has finally upgraded computers (yay), so now there are plenty of new HP laptops. They are pretty good, and the school now has 20 for the library and an additional few for the “senior” classroom (classroom only for year 11 and 12).
In addition, teachers have upgraded laptops. Their old ones are now for the students to use. (Basically, the setup is that the library laptops stay in the library, and the old teacher laptops can be “borrowed” from here but can be taken back to be used in the other classrooms. This saves some classes from moving to the computer room for a lesson as the old teacher laptops can be used in class).
Now, there are also really old thinkpad laptops from like 10 years ago. They used to be for borrowing, but have now finally been “decommissioned”. The hard drives, ram, etc is being salvaged and the rest thrown away. (BTW, random fact- the old computers had an administrator password that was literally “administrator”. Of course I found out and used it. Although all I ended up doing was install custom fonts and cpu monitoring apps)

Now here is the bad news:
The school has recently introduced tracking software onto all the computers and laptops. It is called veyon and you can see the github repo here (its open sourced): https://github.com/veyon/veyon
All teachers can see the screens of all devices, so suddenly no one can play games, watch YouTube or do other non-studying things.
They can even send warning messages to students' compters e.g. “stop playing computer games”, or the one i received, “big brother is watching you”, and also remotely shut down computers of anyone who is not doing the right thing.
For now, the only thing I know to prevent spying on my computer is to turn off the internet connection. I am trying to see if there are ways to avoid it or disabling it, but the program is invincible - admin powers are needed to modify the files or even force it to close via task manager or command line.
i have an idea,

start googling things about veyon and how it works in class/break and wait for their reaction on how smart some people are
bybb
Scratcher
1000+ posts

School IT

Jeffalo wrote:

awesome-llama wrote:

Time to revive this topic again. Here is an update of the things at my school:

The school has finally upgraded computers (yay), so now there are plenty of new HP laptops. They are pretty good, and the school now has 20 for the library and an additional few for the “senior” classroom (classroom only for year 11 and 12).
In addition, teachers have upgraded laptops. Their old ones are now for the students to use. (Basically, the setup is that the library laptops stay in the library, and the old teacher laptops can be “borrowed” from here but can be taken back to be used in the other classrooms. This saves some classes from moving to the computer room for a lesson as the old teacher laptops can be used in class).
Now, there are also really old thinkpad laptops from like 10 years ago. They used to be for borrowing, but have now finally been “decommissioned”. The hard drives, ram, etc is being salvaged and the rest thrown away. (BTW, random fact- the old computers had an administrator password that was literally “administrator”. Of course I found out and used it. Although all I ended up doing was install custom fonts and cpu monitoring apps)

Now here is the bad news:
The school has recently introduced tracking software onto all the computers and laptops. It is called veyon and you can see the github repo here (its open sourced): https://github.com/veyon/veyon
All teachers can see the screens of all devices, so suddenly no one can play games, watch YouTube or do other non-studying things.
They can even send warning messages to students' compters e.g. “stop playing computer games”, or the one i received, “big brother is watching you”, and also remotely shut down computers of anyone who is not doing the right thing.
For now, the only thing I know to prevent spying on my computer is to turn off the internet connection. I am trying to see if there are ways to avoid it or disabling it, but the program is invincible - admin powers are needed to modify the files or even force it to close via task manager or command line.
i have an idea,

start googling things about veyon and how it works in class/break and wait for their reaction on how smart some people are
I would do that at my School (we use smoothwall) but it blocks every search for “* Smoothwall *” (so wildcard on both sides) for “Proxies” and “Computer Misuse” which if you are found guilty of (because it tells principal) you get sent to Internal Exclusion where a policewoman will keep your there, in silence, doing work, for 7 hours.

So it's safe to say I don't want to try that anymore
CatsUnited
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School IT

bybb wrote:

I would do that at my School (we use smoothwall) but it blocks every search for “* Smoothwall *” (so wildcard on both sides) for “Proxies” and “Computer Misuse” which if you are found guilty of (because it tells principal) you get sent to Internal Exclusion where a policewoman will keep your there, in silence, doing work, for 7 hours.

So it's safe to say I don't want to try that anymore
Why is there police there though? Is that action illegal, or is that how school is where your at?

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