FrenchBread49 wrote:

Shop owner: FrenchBread49
Shop name (please link) The Potato Shop
Shop banner:

[url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/350339/][img]http://u.cubeupload.com/FrenchBread49/201905050927210000.png[/img][/url]

Shop description (make sure it is good as it will be the text to represent your shop): We got what you need!
Hiring?: yes
Current order count: 5
Do you agree to abide to our laws? Yes.
Are you following this topic (optional)? Yes.
Do you want to receive SPA updates on your profile (optional)? Yes.

LotusLavender wrote:

For reps, I think we could either have one rep per shop, or possibly 3 categories. These could be small, medium, large. Small (usually only one member) only has one rep so they don't struggle for volunteers for the role. Medium has two so they can balance it. Large (like the space shop) could have three so one person isn't overloaded with work.

LotusLavender wrote:

For reps, I think we could either have one rep per shop, or possibly 3 categories. These could be small, medium, large. Small (usually only one member) only has one rep so they don't struggle for volunteers for the role. Medium has two so they can balance it. Large (like the space shop) could have three so one person isn't overloaded with work.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

LotusLavender wrote:

For reps, I think we could either have one rep per shop, or possibly 3 categories. These could be small, medium, large. Small (usually only one member) only has one rep so they don't struggle for volunteers for the role. Medium has two so they can balance it. Large (like the space shop) could have three so one person isn't overloaded with work.

Nice concept. I totally agree as it would stop large shops from having huge votes. If we get a couple more opinions I would be happy to start an official vote on it .

Although, I’d say that now The Space Shop is a small-medium Shop now. We only have like 3-5 members who remained active.

berryjam3506 wrote:

My shop has 5-7 members active, so i'd be in the middle of medium and large

LotusLavender wrote:

What would you class mine? It's gone down a dip at the mo but I'd say medium/big.

LotusLavender wrote:

What would you class mine? It's gone down a dip at the mo but I'd say medium/big.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

LotusLavender wrote:

What would you class mine? It's gone down a dip at the mo but I'd say medium/big.

I’d say a medium atm.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

FrenchBread49 wrote:

Shop owner: FrenchBread49
Shop name (please link) The Potato Shop
Shop banner:

[url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/350339/][img]http://u.cubeupload.com/FrenchBread49/201905050927210000.png[/img][/url]

Shop description (make sure it is good as it will be the text to represent your shop): We got what you need!
Hiring?: yes
Current order count: 5
Do you agree to abide to our laws? Yes.
Are you following this topic (optional)? Yes.
Do you want to receive SPA updates on your profile (optional)? Yes.

Accepted! I’ll try to add rn but might go into a no service area.

[img]https://u.cubeupload.com/FrenchBread49/PotatoShop.png[/img]

coolcatcool2 wrote:

Shop owner: coolcatcool2 (me)
Shop name (please link) The Request Operator
Shop banner:
Shop description (make sure it is good as it will be the text to represent your shop):

We are a reliable shop that fits any of your needs.

Hiring?: Yes.
Current order count: 0
Do you agree to abide to our laws? yes
Are you following this topic (optional)? yes
Do you want to receive SPA updates on your profile (optional)? yes, please

FrenchBread49 wrote:

Can you change the banner to this?

[img]https://u.cubeupload.com/FrenchBread49/PotatoShop.png[/img]

Hi! On behalf of the SPA, I would like to inform you of a vote occurring soon on Sections 11, 12 and some minor additions to section 2. Voting will begin on the 25th May at midnight UTC and go for 48 hours from there. For more information go to https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3557562/. [You are receiving this message because you opted in to profile notifications for the SPA. You can opt out at any time by replying to this] Random numbers to avoid spam:

hellounicorns2 wrote:

coolcatcool2 wrote:

Shop owner: coolcatcool2 (me)
Shop name (please link) The Request Operator
Shop banner:
Shop description (make sure it is good as it will be the text to represent your shop):

We are a reliable shop that fits any of your needs.

Hiring?: Yes.
Current order count: 0
Do you agree to abide to our laws? yes
Are you following this topic (optional)? yes
Do you want to receive SPA updates on your profile (optional)? yes, please

Accepted!

FrenchBread49 wrote:

Can you change the banner to this?

[img]https://u.cubeupload.com/FrenchBread49/PotatoShop.png[/img]

Ok.

I’ll add both this afternoon, I have to get ready for school .

hellounicorns2 wrote:

Mega-vote on section 11, section 12 and changes to section 2.
As the SPA has had a period of multiple owners and threads, I have decided to provide a vote on some features for the long term of the SPA based on our previous, huge state. The current period of time provides us with an opportunity to step back and introduce some laws for the longevity of the SPA. These will be voted on in the official SPA voting thread (this) on the 00:00 UTC 25th May 2019. We will vote on it based on shop representation (equal representation), so only shop owners will be able to vote. Of course, if this section is passed that will no longer be the case for most votes. Anyway, here are the laws + explanations on why they will help the SPA.

Addition to Section 2: Shop/Representative requirements.
2.9: Shops must select 1-3 representatives based on their size.
2.9.1: The amount of representatives will be judged by hellounicorns2 or the president every 2 weeks.
2.9.1.1: All shops will be checked for size as well as activity during this time.
2.10: Shop representatives may be asked to vote in elections or votes.
2.10.1: For the sake of simplicity sometimes votes will be hosted based on equal representation, however this will not be used for important votes.
2.10.2: The drafter of the policy will decide whether the vote is passed via representatives or shops.

This proposition is mainly to introduce a suggestion made by LoLa. It allows for larger shops to have a good say in voting but stops them from being the only decision makers. Of course, all members matter . It also allows for equal representation to be used where necessary for a more simple vote.

Section 11: Shop Charter (credit to Co49 for the suggestion a while back)
11.1: Workers must be able to request leave from their shop.
11.1.1: Shops should grant most leave requests.
11.1.2: A good explanation must be given for rejecting a leave request (in exceptional cases).
11.1.3: Workers must not be penalised for being inactive during their leave.
11.2: Shops must not act maliciously towards one another.
11.2.1: Shops must not try to actively damage the reputation of one another.
11.2.2: Shops must not lie about other shops or workers of other shops.
11.2.3: Shops must not actively try to start flame wars with each other.
11.2.4: Shops must not steal work from each other.
11.2.5: Shops must honour partnership deals between each other.
11.3: Shops may dismiss workers for good reason.
11.3.1: If the wrongdoing by a worker is minor, at least one warning must be given and time to improve before the worker is dismissed.
11.3.2: If the wrongdoing by a worker is grievous or malicious, dismissal may take place with no warning.

This was made by Co49 while we were in elections last year, and I honestly don’t know why we didn’t vote on it back then. It keeps our community friendly and allows for some simple rules for our members to follow.

Section 12: Profile notifications
12.1: Shops have complete control over whether they receive a profile comment for important events.
12.1.1: Getting notifications is completely optional and will not affect a shop’s status as a member.
12.2: During elections and crucial votes all representatives and shops will be notified regardless of whether they choose to have notifications or not.
12.3: These notifications will be sent out by members.
12.4: Random numbers to avoid spam must be used.
12.5: A message at the end of each notification will be left giving people the option to opt out immediately.
12.5.1: If this happens the person supplying the notifications must notify hellounicorns2 of the username of the person opting out.

Idek why you wouldn’t want this, profile comments are completely optional except for major votes. I just think that simple things like this should still be listed in the rules.

If anyone could send out a message to these people saying:

Hi! On behalf of the SPA, I would like to inform you of a vote occurring soon on Sections 11, 12 and some minor additions to section 2. Voting will begin on the 25th May at midnight UTC and go for 48 hours from there. For more information go to https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3557562/. [You are receiving this message because you opted in to profile notifications for the SPA. You can opt out at any time by replying to this] Random numbers to avoid spam:

Thanks, and scratch on!

FrenchBread49 wrote:

hellounicorns2 wrote:

Mega-vote on section 11, section 12 and changes to section 2.
As the SPA has had a period of multiple owners and threads, I have decided to provide a vote on some features for the long term of the SPA based on our previous, huge state. The current period of time provides us with an opportunity to step back and introduce some laws for the longevity of the SPA. These will be voted on in the official SPA voting thread (this) on the 00:00 UTC 25th May 2019. We will vote on it based on shop representation (equal representation), so only shop owners will be able to vote. Of course, if this section is passed that will no longer be the case for most votes. Anyway, here are the laws + explanations on why they will help the SPA.

Addition to Section 2: Shop/Representative requirements.
2.9: Shops must select 1-3 representatives based on their size.
2.9.1: The amount of representatives will be judged by hellounicorns2 or the president every 2 weeks.
2.9.1.1: All shops will be checked for size as well as activity during this time.
2.10: Shop representatives may be asked to vote in elections or votes.
2.10.1: For the sake of simplicity sometimes votes will be hosted based on equal representation, however this will not be used for important votes.
2.10.2: The drafter of the policy will decide whether the vote is passed via representatives or shops.

This proposition is mainly to introduce a suggestion made by LoLa. It allows for larger shops to have a good say in voting but stops them from being the only decision makers. Of course, all members matter . It also allows for equal representation to be used where necessary for a more simple vote.

Section 11: Shop Charter (credit to Co49 for the suggestion a while back)
11.1: Workers must be able to request leave from their shop.
11.1.1: Shops should grant most leave requests.
11.1.2: A good explanation must be given for rejecting a leave request (in exceptional cases).
11.1.3: Workers must not be penalised for being inactive during their leave.
11.2: Shops must not act maliciously towards one another.
11.2.1: Shops must not try to actively damage the reputation of one another.
11.2.2: Shops must not lie about other shops or workers of other shops.
11.2.3: Shops must not actively try to start flame wars with each other.
11.2.4: Shops must not steal work from each other.
11.2.5: Shops must honour partnership deals between each other.
11.3: Shops may dismiss workers for good reason.
11.3.1: If the wrongdoing by a worker is minor, at least one warning must be given and time to improve before the worker is dismissed.
11.3.2: If the wrongdoing by a worker is grievous or malicious, dismissal may take place with no warning.

This was made by Co49 while we were in elections last year, and I honestly don’t know why we didn’t vote on it back then. It keeps our community friendly and allows for some simple rules for our members to follow.

Section 12: Profile notifications
12.1: Shops have complete control over whether they receive a profile comment for important events.
12.1.1: Getting notifications is completely optional and will not affect a shop’s status as a member.
12.2: During elections and crucial votes all representatives and shops will be notified regardless of whether they choose to have notifications or not.
12.3: These notifications will be sent out by members.
12.4: Random numbers to avoid spam must be used.
12.5: A message at the end of each notification will be left giving people the option to opt out immediately.
12.5.1: If this happens the person supplying the notifications must notify hellounicorns2 of the username of the person opting out.

Idek why you wouldn’t want this, profile comments are completely optional except for major votes. I just think that simple things like this should still be listed in the rules.

If anyone could send out a message to these people saying:

Hi! On behalf of the SPA, I would like to inform you of a vote occurring soon on Sections 11, 12 and some minor additions to section 2. Voting will begin on the 25th May at midnight UTC and go for 48 hours from there. For more information go to https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3557562/. [You are receiving this message because you opted in to profile notifications for the SPA. You can opt out at any time by replying to this] Random numbers to avoid spam:

Thanks, and scratch on!

Is this required?

FrenchBread49 wrote:

Is this required?

hellounicorns2 wrote:

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Also, on the issue of the president not having enough roles, I’m considering giving the job of choosing featured shops etc. and adding shops to our members list to the president’s roles. Also, if anyone would be interested in making the laws more formal, exact and third person then they are free to help with that as I began it but decided it would be a good idea to leave that to our members (I’m totally not too lazy).

laws wrote:

Section 1: Shop/Representative Powers
1.1: Members can leave at any time, regardless of the situation
1.2: Shops can appoint a listed amount of representatives
1.3: Representatives can vote in all elections
1.3.1: Representatives can only represent a single shop once. If shops don’t have enough members those spots will not be counted and will be left vacant.
1.3.2: Representatives of multiple shops may only vote on behalf of one shop.
1.4: You can list with any other federations or shop associations without our approval
1.5: You can apply for any vacant position
1.5.1: You MUST accept if you don’t receive a position and must not get angry
1.6: You can ask for a judicial review on any position
1.6.1: If you feel you have been fired unfairly you can ask for 2 judicial reviews, after which you will be banned from the organisation
Section 2: Shop/Representative requirements
2.1: You must never act to ruin our reputation
2.2: The SPA DOES allow offtopic but please don’t use too many posts when doing so
2.3: You must always follow our rules. If you don’t agree with any of our rules then tell us what you don’t like
2.3.1: If the thing you don’t like is serious, then please tell us in a nice and polite way
2.3.2: Don’t ask or demand for a major rule change, like adding an entire section unless you are a member of the shop
2.3.3: If you blatantly don’t comply with any of our rules then don’t complain if you lose your position(s)
2.4: You can be fired at any time
2.4.1: You must convey any disappointment due to losing positions in a dignified manner
2.5: The SPA does allow vacation for as long as you like but please let us know beforehand
2.6: You must respond to activity checks within 3 days
2.6.1: If you don’t respond you will be notified on your profile
2.6.2: If you don’t respond within 2 weeks your position will be declared vacant/your shop will be declared inactive
2.6.3: As a shop Representative you can respond on behalf of your shop. This does not protect any of your members, but it does guarantee that your shop will stay
2.7: If your shop becomes inactive or closes then members can contact us and we can help with efforts to restore the shop in new threads, or do a deal with another shop for a merger or acquisition.
2.8: These laws are subject to change at any time and you must check them regularly for updates.
2.9: Shops must select 1-3 representatives based on their size.
2.9.1: The amount of representatives will be judged by hellounicorns2 or the president every 2 weeks.
2.9.1.1: All shops will be checked for size as well as activity during this time.
2.10: Shop representatives may be asked to vote in elections or votes.
2.10.1: For the sake of simplicity sometimes votes will be hosted based on equal representation, however this will not be used for important votes.
2.10.2: The drafter of the policy will decide whether the vote is passed via representatives or shops.
Sction 3: Judge rules
3.1: We pride ourselves in our association, please don’t by any means try to ruin our reputation
3.2: You must complete all decisions without any bias
3.3: You must complete decision quickly and decisively
3.3.1: You must not be inactive for longer than a week without approval.
3.3.2: You must appoint an unbiased replacement if you are going to be away
3.3.3: The Illuminati law says that no excuses will be accepted for unexpected inactivity. You can regain your position later on though.
3.4: You must tell us of any affiliations with shops and/or federations to make sure we have an unbiased court
3.4.1: You can have some affiliations but must confirm them and demonstrate that you will not have a bias towards them
Section 4: Remaining unbiased decisions during lawsuits
4.1: You can not try to influence a decision made by a judge unless you are the one that has been taken to court.
4.1.1: If you are caught trying to influence them (profile comments etc.) then you will be immediately fired
4.1.2: Judges must immediately report any efforts to influence their decision that are not from people being charged
4.2: All decisions are final. They can be challenged after one week, but only if further evidence against is found.
4.2.1: Further evidence must be something that realistically has a chance of changing the decision
4.2.2: If judges are removed and/or added then all challenge waiting times are reset to 0
4.3: To make it easier during decisions new people joining will be told to wait
4.3.1: Any previous additions will be completely added beforehand
Section 5: Emergency control
5.1: Only trust messages of Hellounicorns2 being inactive or similar things from members
5.2: If the owner become inactive please don’t report this topic to be closed unless a fair amount of people are necroposting. Hellounicorns2 will always do his best to let everyone know if he is leaving.
5.3: After inactivity Hellounicorns2 trusts any member to make a new thread as long as a majority of our association agrees.
5.3.1: Hellounicorns2 trust these people to be responsible and keep our good reputation
5.3.2: Please cite these laws when you create a new thread
5.4: If we grow too fast too manage we may temporarily close new memberships. We will slowly reopen them afterwards.
Section 6: Presidential controls
6.1: On the 1st of March a presidential election was hosted. This winner (poppybunny) runs most business and imposes most laws.
6.1.: Elections shall be held every quarter (3 months) from then on.
6.1.1: Presidents can call elections up to 2 months early if they think that it will benefit themselves/the association, although they can be taken to court for excessively calling elections
6.2: This person must first propose any new laws/ law changes
6.3: They must appoint a secretary and Vice President
6.4: If an action by a president is deemed unfair any members can take them to court.
6.4.1: If this action occurs a house vote will occur instantaneously.
6.4.2: If this is voted for by 2/3 or more of representatives a royal comission will be officially opened by Hellounicorns2
6.4.3: This official royal commission will include extensive questioning and research by all judges, plus 4 guest judges appointed by other judges.
6.4.4: If this royal commission results in the finding of things that break the community guidelines the Scratch Team will immediately be contacted and the president shall be repealed of all positions.
6.4.5: If the royal commission results in the finding of behavior that breaks our rules but not the ST's rules then they will be removed from their position immediately
6.4.6: If the royal commision results in no finding the president will be given an additional 3 months in office.
6.5: If a president is removed or resigns they will be replaced by their deputy.
6.5.1: The secretary will also become the Vice President and the new Secretary will be appointed by the new president
6.6: The secretary can fire and add members freely (within reason), while the Vice President cannot
Section 7: Mental Support and Holidays
7.1: Holidays can be taken for as long as that person likes
7.1.1: If that person is president their deputy should assume charge and run the association while the president is away.
7.1.2: If Hellounicorns am away a new temporary front page by the president with up-to date information will be linked
7.1.3: All other member do not need to worry about being away, they just must contact us.
7.2: If you feel mentally ill in any way you should feel safe to contact us on the matter
7.2.1: We will help you out and support you in any matter possible.
7.2.2: You will immediately be given leave if you feel in any way mentally ill.
7.2.3: After this leave you will be given back your position
Section 8: Law Propositions
8.1: The president can propose laws at any time other than within 2 weeks of an election
8.2: Laws must be proposed in a formal manner.
8.2.1: By ‘formal’ we mean that it must be presented in a similar manner to this, with the correct sections and parts of sections.
8.2.2: Joking around may seem fun, but all propositions and parts of propositions WILL be taken literally.
8.3: It must go through all 3 stages and win.
8.3.1: The first stage is approval by the house. It must get at least 50% of the vote.
8.3.2: The second stage is approval by the Head Department
8.3.2.1: The head department consists of the Owner, President, Vice President
8.3.3: The third stage is judge approval
8.3.3.1: The judges will only overturn things if they are extremely unlawful
8.4: All laws will be initiated immediately after voted in
8.4.1: Any members breaking new laws as they are passed will not be acted upon
8.4.2: They have a responsibility, though, to fix themselves up as quickly as possible.
Section 9: Jobs
9.1 People in new jobs will be able to vote.
9:1.1 If a person is in multiple new jobs then they will still only get one additional vote.
9.1.1.1 If a person is in one or more new jobs and is a shop representative and/or a judge then they get a vote for each of the shop/s they are a representative of and one vote for all of their new job/s.
9.2 New jobs candidates will be required to fill in a form.
9.3 New jobs are following:
9.3.1 Artist Designer.
9.3.1.1 An Artist Designer helps by making banners for member shops that need them.
9.3.2 Formatter.
9.3.2.1 A Formatter helps member shops; and the SPA with BBcode.
9.3.3 Order Helper.
9.3.3.1 An Order Helper helps struggling shops with their orders.
9.3.4 Slogan Writer
9.3.4.1 A Slogan Writer writes slogans for the SPA, the member shops and representatives that would like them.
Section 10: New Shop Nurturing Program (NSNP)
10.1: hellounicorns2 will design ~10 shop ideas.
10.1.1: each of these ideas will be fitted with a good description, banner and name.
10.1.2: all material relating to them will be watermarked to prevent unauthorised use.
10.2: anybody can ask to use one of them
10.2.1: they will be given one with a smaller watermark below stating that ‘This Shop Is Half-Owned By The SPA’
10.2.2: they will be half-owned by the SPA (as stated in the watermark)
10.2.3: we will gradually allow them more independence
10.2.4: every week they will be reviewed by the Shop Review Shop
10.2.5: if they are successful in reaching a score of 18 at the Shop Review Shop they will be given one last week with half-ownership by us
10.2.6: after this they will become a normal shop, and will remain a normal member of the SPA
10.3: we don’t become members if their shop, they start out as sole worker
10.4: they must credit us for their banner and shop idea
10.5: the shop ideas page will be listed on a separate page to the main page to prevent slower loading times due to large banners
10.6: they can leave the SPA at any time
10.7: all Nurturing shops will be given advertising, which will be organised by the Head of Shops
Section 11: Shop Charter (credit to Co49 for the suggestion a while back)
11.1: Workers must be able to request leave from their shop.
11.1.1: Shops should grant most leave requests.
11.1.2: A good explanation must be given for rejecting a leave request (in exceptional cases).
11.1.3: Workers must not be penalised for being inactive during their leave.
11.2: Shops must not act maliciously towards one another.
11.2.1: Shops must not try to actively damage the reputation of one another.
11.2.2: Shops must not lie about other shops or workers of other shops.
11.2.3: Shops must not actively try to start flame wars with each other.
11.2.4: Shops must not steal work from each other.
11.2.5: Shops must honour partnership deals between each other.
11.3: Shops may dismiss workers for good reason.
11.3.1: If the wrongdoing by a worker is minor, at least one warning must be given and time to improve before the worker is dismissed.
11.3.2: If the wrongdoing by a worker is grievous or malicious, dismissal may take place with no warning.
Section 12: Profile notifications
12.1: Shops have complete control over whether they receive a profile comment for important events.
12.1.1: Getting notifications is completely optional and will not affect a shop’s status as a member.
12.2: During elections and crucial votes all representatives and shops will be notified regardless of whether they choose to have notifications or not.
12.3: These notifications will be sent out by members.
12.4: Random numbers to avoid spam must be used.
12.5: A message at the end of each notification will be left giving people the option to opt out immediately.
12.5.1: If this happens the person supplying the notifications must notify hellounicorns2 of the username of the person opting out.

hellounicorns2 wrote:

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Section 11: Shop Charter (credit to Co49 for the suggestion a while back)
11.1: Workers must be able to request leave from their shop.
11.1.1: Shops should grant most leave requests.
11.1.2: A good explanation must be given for rejecting a leave request (in exceptional cases).
11.1.3: Workers must not be penalised for being inactive during their leave.
11.2: Shops must not act maliciously towards one another.
11.2.1: Shops must not try to actively damage the reputation of one another.
11.2.2: Shops must not lie about other shops or workers of other shops.
11.2.3: Shops must not actively try to start flame wars with each other.
11.2.4: Shops must not steal work from each other.
11.2.5: Shops must honour partnership deals between each other.
11.3: Shops may dismiss workers for good reason.
11.3.1: If the wrongdoing by a worker is minor, at least one warning must be given and time to improve before the worker is dismissed.
11.3.2: If the wrongdoing by a worker is grievous or malicious, dismissal may take place with no warning.

This was made by Co49 while we were in elections last year, and I honestly don’t know why we didn’t vote on it back then. It keeps our community friendly and allows for some simple rules for our members to follow.

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Thanks, and scratch on!

idea wrote:

Section 13: Member Benefits
13.1: All member shops will get a weekly (or fortnightly or monthly) bump as a benefit of the SPA
13.2: A member (or several; if several than each person will be given a list of shops it is their job to bump) will be appointed to give these bumps.
13.2.1: If this member is on leave the president will give these bumps or another member of the SPA will be temporarily appointed.
13.2.2: If this member fails to give bumps twice a new member will be appointed to do this job
13.2.3: This member cannot be revoked of any other position for failing to give bumps to shops