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cs2274020
Scratcher
5 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

that would be great <3
people who are blind or have low vision will be like us too enjoying scratch project and other stuff :3

when green flag clicked
say [hello] for (2) secs
ask [should we do this?] and wait
JackK211424
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

nickeljorn wrote:

quacht wrote:

Hi!

I’m a member of the Scratch Team, and over the next two years, I’ll be working on a project to make Scratch more accessible to Scratchers with low-vision or blindness.

Before I start designing and building, I want to hear about your experience with Scratch and how you think Scratch accessibility can be improved–especially if you have blindness or low-vision. Your stories, thoughts, and feedback will guide the project and make sure that I’m making changes that improve Scratcher experiences, so please share on this forum!

Thanks!
Tina

Maybe you could turn on an option for a little voice when your mouse hovers over one of the buttons saying what the button says? Just a suggestion, I don't know many blind people.

yeah, that would be good, like text-to-speech voice. or maybe small voices also saying what sprite does.
Somebody236
Scratcher
1 post

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

oops

Last edited by Somebody236 (May 19, 2019 15:10:45)

culverkwan
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

Can you tell me hoe to change the cat's colour?
billprattcttf
Teacher
10 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

Original Post: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/351324/?page=1#post-3553468 with numbers 4 and 5 added here.

“U4pp0!”

Could you read that? Do you know that it says “Hello!” if you use the key up and to the right on the keyboard. The inability to read this is what I feel like when I can't tell the difference between colors as a color blind person.

I am partially color blind and cannot get the colors in the new color selector. Between the color slider, saturation, and brightness, I am lost. I know lots of kids are lost too. Scratch is supposed to be designed for ages 8-16 but there are not many in that age group that truly understand the sliders. I am almost 50 teaching Scratch and because of my color blindness, I can't figure out the colors. Even people who are not color blind are having trouble with the slider system.

I know color blindness does not fall within ADA guidelines but please fix this.

My suggestions:
1) Have an option to use the color blocks like 2.0
2) Create a hex or RGB entry (I can look up the hex code for any color in the world if I know the name)
3) Create a directory of Scratch colors by color group (ROYGBIV) and then alphabetically (color: 10, saturation: 100, brightness: 50 equates to hex #804d00 saddle brown)
4) Use a standard color palette with just three RGB sliders
5) Use a standard hue, saturation, brightness slider set


I was embarrassed as a first grader coloring oceans and skies purple and grass brown. Now, as an educator, I have thick enough skin to shake it off but I ache for those kids who get picked on for the same reason. Fix this Scratch.

(Update: I emailed the Scratch team about this and they said they are working on it. Your project might include the solution to this.)
MistyRain17
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

quacht wrote:

Hi!

I’m a member of the Scratch Team, and over the next two years, I’ll be working on a project to make Scratch more accessible to Scratchers with low-vision or blindness.

Before I start designing and building, I want to hear about your experience with Scratch and how you think Scratch accessibility can be improved–especially if you have blindness or low-vision. Your stories, thoughts, and feedback will guide the project and make sure that I’m making changes that improve Scratcher experiences, so please share on this forum!

Thanks!
Tina
Oooh, awesome idea!
ainiset2019
New Scratcher
3 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

hello im ainise
1troyc01
New Scratcher
1 post

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

ae105860
Scratcher
5 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

mrbananaSJ wrote:

everyone is moving to python now!
Idk
-ComicScratcher34-
Scratcher
20 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

Aye its me!!!! that guy you either dont know or kinda like
move (To corner and cry) steps
ResExsention
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

This is pretty much derailed at this point. Please don't post stuff that's off topic.

Anyway, along the lines of accessibility, I would like to discuss a low contrast dark theme for Scratch. This white theme is really painful at night, so I think it would really help, since just about everything else in my computer is in a dark theme. Right now I'm using extensions to get around that.
cs1058737
New Scratcher
7 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

it my birding my sing1
karategirl543
Scratcher
13 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

That's a great idea! Maybe more voice-activated aspects and more sound effects compared to a project made for a user with no eye impairments.

“Achievement has no color” -Abraham Lincoln

Social justice on Scratch and in the world! :D

Last edited by karategirl543 (May 28, 2019 21:35:13)

JayStone
Scratcher
6 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

AMOIZING IDEASSSSSS
say [Noice.] for (2) secs
ResExsention
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

This topic is pretty much derailed and is now a FFA of off topic discussions.

Please stop. If you want to talk to each other use comments…

Not here!

P.S. Is there a roadmap for this accessibility project? I'd like to see what's planned.
MistyRain17
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

mrbananaSJ wrote:

everyone is moving to python now!
Well, I think some people are also moving on to Java as well. But I'm staying on Scratch ‘till I’m 13 or 14.
OlafDolaff
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

Merge the text to speech blocks with the say blocks.
ResExsention
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

MistyRain17 wrote:

mrbananaSJ wrote:

everyone is moving to python now!
Well, I think some people are also moving on to Java as well. But I'm staying on Scratch ‘till I’m 13 or 14.

Lol. I kind of already moved away from Scratch quite some years ago, I only stuck around because Scratch makes 2D games easier to make, but it's so limited.

OlafDolaff wrote:

Merge the text to speech blocks with the say blocks.

Easy workaround:

say [whatever] for (2) secs
speak [whatever] :: pen

Why won't anyone put this topic back on track? I'm trying, lol.

Let's make Scratch more accessible to everyone. Discuss, please.
-ComicScratcher34-
Scratcher
20 posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

so make blocks easy to use? like idk maybe?

move (Town to easy road) steps
chipm0nk
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch Accessibility for Low-vision and Blind Users

That sounds amazing! I hope that this will make Scratch more accessible to everyone! I wish I had some good suggestions to share… I don't know much about visual impairment.

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