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ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

I was making an online game (Seem my profile if interested) but I ran out of cloud variables. I thought that having ten was holding back lots of projects but having infinite would end in… Well, something bad. Then a idea struck me. Maybe we could have a new rank that would be higher than scratcher but not so high that it would tear the community apart. There would be about 20 cloud vars. for this rank, so theres the thing that would help me, and many others, but still keep control. Please give feedback, so I can edit this to suit anyone's ideas, and yeah, thats it!

Last edited by Paddle2See (Feb. 16, 2017 12:24:02)


when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

Swampert11
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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No support!

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Firedrake969
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

No support!

Wait for cloud lists. The 10 variable limit is to prevent server stress, I think.

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AonymousGuy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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10 vars is enough.

The most I've ever needed is about 5, and I used them to create a system which can store infinite data - even if it is somewhat slow.

Also, what would the rank be called? What would the requirements be?
ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

When are cloud list coming out? They are like, a pack of vars.

Maybe Expert Scratcher?

We could have other perks instead.

when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

AonymousGuy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

ijohn007 wrote:

Maybe Expert Scratcher?

We could have other perks instead.
How would you obtain the rank?
ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

AonymousGuy wrote:

ijohn007 wrote:

Maybe Expert Scratcher?

We could have other perks instead.
How would you obtain the rank?

Like how you get scratcher, but harder

when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

Blaze349
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

ijohn007 wrote:

Swampert11 wrote:

No support!
That wasn't very helpful.. I bet you were just drawing attention to your signature.
Please say something helpful or don't say anything.
There is no betting in Scratch. It was helpful, he said he didn't support and you have no right to tell him what to say. Also something like this has been suggested before but the ScratchTeam rejected it. Anyway the ranks are just to reduce spam.

jvvg wrote:

Before making a suggestion, be sure to check this topic for stuff that's already been suggested.

DO NOT MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC!!! THIS IS ONLY A LIST OF REJECTED SUGGESTIONS

Notes:
  • 5. Removing 60/600 rule, New Scratcher status, etc.
    While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam.



ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

Blaze349 wrote:

ijohn007 wrote:

Swampert11 wrote:

No support!
That wasn't very helpful.. I bet you were just drawing attention to your signature.
Please say something helpful or don't say anything.
There is no betting in Scratch. It was helpful, he said he didn't support and you have no right to tell him what to say. Also something like this has been suggested before but the ScratchTeam rejected it. Anyway the ranks are just to reduce spam. And that's my point

jvvg wrote:

Before making a suggestion, be sure to check this topic for stuff that's already been suggested.

DO NOT MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC!!! THIS IS ONLY A LIST OF REJECTED SUGGESTIONS

Notes:
  • 5. Removing 60/600 rule, New Scratcher status, etc.
    While all of these things may seem annoying, they are extremely effective shields against spam.




  • Hmm.. Can you put that into simpler english? And I meant “bet” as presume, not gambling. I edited so I could highlight the quote. Anyhow, let's not get into a fight about this.

Last edited by ijohn007 (May 19, 2014 12:41:12)


when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

GCGCGC
Scratcher
100+ posts

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Well, only a few games need more than 10 variables, and there is a way (though really complicated) is compress them.
For example, griffpatch uses his divine powers a bit of complicated code I don't understand to save 15 frames of data for every player in his 3D FPS game in just a couple variables.
I suppose 20 would be useful sometimes, but cloud lists might come out, and they'd make everything a lot easier.
I don't see this rule changing any time soon.

Problem with rank systems is that some people will be trying to climb the ranks instead of making good projects. Causes problems.

Joined scratch in March 2013, forgot about it completely for nearly a year, came back and started being active (kinda) in April 2014.
GCGCGC / -Polaris- (alt)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/27917878/ (Boss Battle!)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/25293585/ (A platformer)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/21934843/ (Bullet hell challenge!)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/16363731/ (Fancy diagram generator )
GCGCGC
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

Oh, and I took a look at your game.
I see it only allows for 5 players max, but you could add more by encoding all the x into one variable, by making each one multiply by a power of ten, so a variable could hold something like: 178 067 239 287 354 026 357, with each 3 digits representing 1 player's x position.
Haven't made one myself, but that's what I realized from looking at griffpatch and sonicfan's work. (well, they use a massively more complicated method)

Last edited by GCGCGC (May 19, 2014 13:01:15)


Joined scratch in March 2013, forgot about it completely for nearly a year, came back and started being active (kinda) in April 2014.
GCGCGC / -Polaris- (alt)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/27917878/ (Boss Battle!)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/25293585/ (A platformer)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/21934843/ (Bullet hell challenge!)
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/16363731/ (Fancy diagram generator )
AonymousGuy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

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ijohn007 wrote:

AonymousGuy wrote:

ijohn007 wrote:

Maybe Expert Scratcher?

We could have other perks instead.
How would you obtain the rank?

Like how you get scratcher, but harder
Exact requirements?
savaka
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

The reason there's a limit isn't because of people doing inappropriate stuff with it, it's because they don't have enough server space for all that cloud data.
ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

The same as scratcher but harder

when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

jontmy00
Scratcher
500+ posts

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ijohn007 wrote:

The same as scratcher but harder
That isn't the exact requirements for promotion. Using the 1.4 criteria, there doesn't seem to be another possible criterion that does not involve popularity or addition to the current New Scratcher to Scratcher promotion.

New Scratcher to Scratcher:

- Number of projects shared.
- Number of comments made.
- Activity on site (excluding forums).
- Activity on day/night of promotion.

I don't see any possible additions, because love-its, favorites, followers, followed, forum post, featured projects count somehow are related to popularity/fame.

No support anyway, since the advantage of having more cloud vars can potentially increase load on the servers, plus the additional rank may lead to competition between Scratchers just to get that rank.

No.
AonymousGuy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

ijohn007 wrote:

The same as scratcher but harder

AonymousGuy wrote:

Exact requirements?
ImMaximum
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

I don't support because there isn't a reason to increase variable size. There is a limit for a reason, to limit all players from having an overload of cloud scripts. This helps the servers run better. I would say “No Support” but I am smarter than to say that without giving constructive criticism. Thanks <3

Last edited by ImMaximum (May 21, 2014 02:08:30)


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Blueinkproductions
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I suggest you look at Lirex's cloud list.

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Here's a hint: support = support.

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Blaze349
Scratcher
1000+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

ijohn007 wrote:

I was making an online game (Seem my profile if interested) but I ran out of cloud variables. I thought that having ten was holding back lots of projects but having infinite would end in… Well, something bad. Then a idea struck me. Maybe we could have a new rank that would be higher than scratcher but not so high that it would tear the community apart. There would be about 20 cloud vars. for this rank, so theres the thing that would help me, and many others, but still keep control. Please give feedback, so I can edit this to suit anyone's ideas, and yeah, thats it!
No offense to anyone but the people who would gain the rank would probably be @joshuaho @AonymousGuy @jvvg @cheeseater @griffpatch @mikeono102 and a few more ‘famous’ scratchers so why bother making a topic in which no one is really going to benefit from.
ijohn007
Scratcher
100+ posts

New Rank [higher rank with increased number of cloud variables]

Blaze349 wrote:

ijohn007 wrote:

I was making an online game (Seem my profile if interested) but I ran out of cloud variables. I thought that having ten was holding back lots of projects but having infinite would end in… Well, something bad. Then a idea struck me. Maybe we could have a new rank that would be higher than scratcher but not so high that it would tear the community apart. There would be about 20 cloud vars. for this rank, so theres the thing that would help me, and many others, but still keep control. Please give feedback, so I can edit this to suit anyone's ideas, and yeah, thats it!
No offense to anyone but the people who would gain the rank would probably be @joshuaho @AonymousGuy @jvvg @cheeseater @griffpatch @mikeono102 and a few more ‘famous’ scratchers so why bother making a topic in which no one is really going to benefit from.

Ok, it would be easier then that

when green flag clicked :: pen
say [Doing things is boring] :: sensing
think about doing nothing :: operators
forever :: custom
Do nothing :: operators
end

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