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Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Edit: Thanks for all the replies. I removed the Blocks that I understand would compromise the Safety of Scratch..

Hello everyone.

I've been using Scratch for almost 3 years and since then, I began understanding what the Developers want it to become, and made up a list of Updated that will keep the platform safe and will not make it anyhow harder to use.

I saw many peoples begging the Developers to add mySQL support, “Open Webpage Blocks” and more to go, but those would make Scratch more of a Tool for Developers than a Tool to Learn. My suggestion is to make a major update that introduces the following simple, easy-to-use features. I really hope the Developers read this, as I believe it could really

Make Scratch a better place for both newbies and Advanced users.

- Scratch To Exe
A Scratch Project to .exe and .app compiler, with the following blocks that can be added via “App” extension in the category “More”.

set Window Title To []
 set window mode to [windowed v]
close this window



- Additional Effect: Blur

set [Blur v] effect to (0)

See original Topic

- Some extra blocks in the “sensing” category:
Those will become useful when it comes to compile the Project to .exe or .app.

(line (1) of webpage [hello.com])
open scratch.mit.edu/[discuss v]/ [1/topic/]
(Will open the page in the SAME Window, to prevent spam.

- Text in Global Lists / Variables. BUT with a bad-words sensor, similar to the one used in the Comments.

For more advanced developers I recommend using Snapp, it's as Easy as Scratch but way more advanced. New coders should Start from that Instead than from Scratch, in my opinion.

Last edited by Moonshl (Sept. 7, 2017 12:45:59)

FancyFoxy
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Please only have one suggestion per topic; it helps make sure the subject is the same throughout the conversation instead of juggling many different conversations at once and when they're all together- yeah. Probably pick one of the suggestions here to leave and take the other suggestions somewhere else.
Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

FancyFoxy wrote:

Please only have one suggestion per topic; it helps make sure the subject is the same throughout the conversation instead of juggling many different conversations at once and when they're all together- yeah. Probably pick one of the suggestions here to leave and take the other suggestions somewhere else.
Thanks, will follow you tip!
I-Iz-A-Litten
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
Randomness-TV
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

(this is not making scratch safer)
no supprot
Charles12310
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1000+ posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?
I-Iz-A-Litten
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
FancyFoxy
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Okay, what about the “only go to allowed websites” excuse?
I-Iz-A-Litten
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

FancyFoxy wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Okay, what about the “only go to allowed websites” excuse?



I guess that'll work.
Charles12310
Scratcher
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Don't worry, even I don't accept this block.

It would be difficult for a system to detect whether a site is bad or not.
DaEpikDude
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

None of these seem really useful, and the blur effect has been suggested many times before.
No support.
Moonshl
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60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” Block

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Don't worry, even I don't accept this block.

It would be difficult for a system to detect whether a site is bad or not.
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” block Should not be Implemented, along with certain others..
Also blocks “Write to file” aren't advanced, meaning that they can be used also by people who are new to coding without issues.

Last edited by Moonshl (Sept. 7, 2017 11:48:51)

dave4681
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Firstly, could you please prove that this would make Scratch easier and safer, because it (the title) looks more like clickbait to me.
Secondly, the red blocks either have no use or can only be used to throw around the user's computer like a puppet.
Thirdly, the red blocks have nothing to do with the Scratch editor and will not affect what visually comes up at all.

Sorry, but unless you can actually answer people's main question of how this would make scratch any safer or easier and show how this could help people, no support.
Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

dave4681 wrote:

Firstly, could you please prove that this would make Scratch easier and safer, because it (the title) looks more like clickbait to me.
Secondly, the red blocks either have no use or can only be used to throw around the user's computer like a puppet.
Thirdly, the red blocks have nothing to do with the Scratch editor and will not affect what visually comes up at all.

Sorry, but unless you can actually answer people's main question of how this would make scratch any safer or easier and show how this could help people, no support.
Safer, as in instead of using blocks such as “Open URL” it would use a SAFER one, that being “Open URL on (safe domain) (url)”. Easier as the “Save to file” blocks would make it way easier to make handy save engines for games.

Last edited by Moonshl (Sept. 7, 2017 12:23:43)

dave4681
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Moonshl wrote:

dave4681 wrote:

Firstly, could you please prove that this would make Scratch easier and safer, because it (the title) looks more like clickbait to me.
Secondly, the red blocks either have no use or can only be used to throw around the user's computer like a puppet.
Thirdly, the red blocks have nothing to do with the Scratch editor and will not affect what visually comes up at all.

Sorry, but unless you can actually answer people's main question of how this would make scratch any safer or easier and show how this could help people, no support.
Safer, as in instead of using blocks such as “Open URL” it would use a SAFER one, that being “Open URL on (safe domain) (url)”. Easier as the “Save to file” blocks would make it way easier to make handy save engines for games.
Simply saying “Safe Domain” isn't very convincing, to be honest. You can't just guess that they already have a way to tell if a site is safe or not. Also, what if there is unsafe content posted by someone one on a markedly “safe” site.? Even Scratch can have that problem, being in the era of rowdy 8-year olds everywhere cussing because they think it makes them look hard (when of course it doesn't).

But for the second part, I see what you mean now, and I understand the topic a bit more. Support for that part, we really need it.

Last edited by dave4681 (Sept. 7, 2017 12:35:18)

Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
Only because someone is new to coding, that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be able to compile his project and manipulate the title of the window, size or use the Read Line (1) of webpage to let the game check for updates in a very simple way. Even a 10 years old could do that, without issues.
cul8er
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A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Blur effect is a duplicate.
Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

cul8er wrote:

Blur effect is a duplicate.
Thanks for making me notice! I'll link to the original topic.
Charles12310
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Moonshl wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” Block

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Don't worry, even I don't accept this block.

It would be difficult for a system to detect whether a site is bad or not.
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” block Should not be Implemented, along with certain others..
Also blocks “Write to file” aren't advanced, meaning that they can be used also by people who are new to coding without issues.
1. Do you really have to say the same thing twice? Just say, “both of you, blah blah”.
2. It does not look like as if you said that the block shouldn't be implemented.
Moonshl
Scratcher
60 posts

A Concept for a better, Safe and Easy Scratch.

Charles12310 wrote:

Moonshl wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” Block

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

no support for

open URL []

no support for all the other red blocks, Scratch is for people who are new to coding, we don't need Scratch being so advanced that newcomers won't understand a thing.


Support for blur effect though


(Also I don't know how this would make Scratch safer)
What's the reason for the first block? Probably because of an inappropriate website?



yep, (and don't give me the “just report it” excuse, no offense.)
Don't worry, even I don't accept this block.

It would be difficult for a system to detect whether a site is bad or not.
Please read more carefully. I mentioned that the “Open URL” block Should not be Implemented, along with certain others..
Also blocks “Write to file” aren't advanced, meaning that they can be used also by people who are new to coding without issues.
1. Do you really have to say the same thing twice? Just say, “both of you, blah blah”.
2. It does not look like as if you said that the block shouldn't be implemented.
I said “Blocks that shouldn't be implemented as they'd compromise Safety”.

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